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After finding out that Gebbia went to OSU....and knowing what I was told, it all comes together tonight. I think... In fact I am damn near positive, this kid had a bailout plan. I believe what this staff is selling on the whole Gebbia deal as probably the truth. That being said, Riley would have NOTHING to do with a transfer there. I wanted to put that to rest right now.

Once again, apologies....I have some egg on my face on this one.

EDIT: whole time is probably the wrong term to use. Probably more like the last few days he was here.
 
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HuskerDana said:
After finding out that Gebbia went to OSU....and knowing what I was told, it all comes together tonight. I think... In fact I am damn near positive, this kid had a bailout plan the whole time. I believe what this staff is selling on the whole Gebbia deal as the 100% truth.

Once again, apologies....I have some egg on my face on this one.
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Ya manned up and admitted it, all good in my book.
 
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HuskerDana said:
True, Charlie....but I was pretty adamant that he didn't and he was all in until he was misled. 2+2 now tells me that was probably not the case.
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According to Verduzco, Gebbia told him he was all in on Saturday after he got the news. Maybe just an act?
 
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HuskerDana said:
After finding out that Gebbia went to OSU....and knowing what I was told, it all comes together tonight. I think... In fact I am damn near positive, this kid had a bailout plan the whole time. I believe what this staff is selling on the whole Gebbia deal as the 100% truth.

Once again, apologies....I have some egg on my face on this one.
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Not one bit of egg. You're as solid a poster as there is on here. Take it from a longtime lurker that hardly ever talks, but has seen much.
 
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HuskerDana said:
After finding out that Gebbia went to OSU....and knowing what I was told, it all comes together tonight. I think... In fact I am damn near positive, this kid had a bailout plan the whole time. I believe what this staff is selling on the whole Gebbia deal as the 100% truth.

Once again, apologies....I have some egg on my face on this one.
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What a great post very classy.
 
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No reason to apologize. This stuff happens. Gebbia wasn't a dummy. I'm not shocked that he had a backup plan.But, this could have been worse. Imagine Frost having to pull Gebbia for Martinez at some point during the season. Another cancer is not what this team needs now.
 
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....and I still say, give the kid a break. He did what was best for himself. He contributed quite a bit while he was here and was a well respected teammate. When we were void of a coaching staff, he was one of the players that kind of took the reigns. He was a hard worker and loved it here, it just didn't work out in the end. Best of luck to him at OSU. Can't wait for Saturday and bury this whole saga.
 
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HuskerDana said:
After finding out that Gebbia went to OSU....and knowing what I was told, it all comes together tonight. I think... In fact I am damn near positive, this kid had a bailout plan. I believe what this staff is selling on the whole Gebbia deal as probably the truth.

Once again, apologies....I have some egg on my face on this one.

EDIT: whole time is probably the wrong term to use. Probably more like the last few days he was here.
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Everyone is entitled to have an opinion. This is a discussion board. I don't think you have to apologize for anything. When you're/I'm wrong, admit it and accept it and move on.

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litespeedhuskerfan said:
Your wife is smokin hawt, so we forgive you.

Seriously, dude's a closer.
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RollingLaughMaybe the only area in life I have ever overachieved. Alcohol probably clouded her judgement there.....it might have clouded mine a little last night. I think I started developing conspiracy theories in my head about Gebbia's exit. Some of this post I'd like to kind of take back. I don't think he is a bad kid. He probably perceived last weekend a little differently than the staff did. Miscommunication, I guess.

I am going to have to remember to either stay away from the keyboard when drinking or remember that alcohol was only invented to give guys like me a chance at hot chicks. :Cool:
 
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RollingLaughMaybe the only area in life I have ever overachieved. Alcohol probably clouded her judgement there.....it might have clouded mine a little last night. I think I started developing conspiracy theories in my head about Gebbia's exit. Some of this post I'd like to kind of take back. I don't think he is a bad kid. He probably perceived last weekend a little differently than the staff did. Miscommunication, I guess.
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We'll keep it our secret from the board that your son got his looks from her to...Shhhhhhh
 
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HuskerDana said:
After finding out that Gebbia went to OSU....and knowing what I was told, it all comes together tonight. I think... In fact I am damn near positive, this kid had a bailout plan. I believe what this staff is selling on the whole Gebbia deal as probably the truth.

Once again, apologies....I have some egg on my face on this one.

EDIT: whole time is probably the wrong term to use. Probably more like the last few days he was here.
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No worries you are still one of the best on here. We all make mistakes
 
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No big deal. I think you are right about developing a bail out plan as the competition progressed. I don't think him leaving had anything to do with Frost not telling him the news. I'm guessing he knew he was beaten out at some point over the last week or so and started exploring options (or more likely dad started exploring options). That doesn't make him a bad person...he's only looking out for himself which is what most of us do.
 
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I don’t blame Gebbia for his decision. If we’re honest with ourselves any one of us would have done the same. The fact of the matter is that Gebbia’s long term prospect of being the stater at Nebraska was pretty slim. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I get it, he ran a similar RPO style offense in high school. But he was running that offense at the High School level against kids who, for the most part, were never going to set foot on a college football field. He wasn’t running it against the likes of Michigan, or Ohio State, or Wisconsin, etc. He may have had success, but long term Frost’s offense demands a true dual threat QB. And while Gebbia had a shot at earning the starting role, the fact is he was going to get beat out at some point.

He was brought here by the previous staff to run a Pro Style offense. Verduzco even said he thinks Gebbia has one of the top 5 arms in college football. The kid knows if he has a chance to play he’s going to get a look at the NFL. Will he make it to the NFL? Who knows, maybe not, but his chances are far better if he’s actually playing in an offense that allows him to display his true strengths. This offense under Frost was never going to truly fit him. It sucks for us because now our depth at QB is severely thin, but the reality is anyone in the same position would have done something similar.
 
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I don’t blame Gebbia for his decision. If we’re honest with ourselves any one of us would have done the same. The fact of the matter is that Gebbia’s long term prospect of being the stater at Nebraska was pretty slim. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I get it, he ran a similar RPO style offense in high school. But he was running that offense at the High School level against kids who, for the most part, were never going to set foot on a college football field. He wasn’t running it against the likes of Michigan, or Ohio State, or Wisconsin, etc. He may have had success, but long term Frost’s offense demands a true dual threat QB. And while Gebbia had a shot at earning the starting role, the fact is he was going to get beat out at some point.

He was brought here by the previous staff to run a Pro Style offense. Verduzco even said he thinks Gebbia has one of the top 5 arms in college football. The kid knows if he has a chance to play he’s going to get a look at the NFL. Will he make it to the NFL? Who knows, maybe not, but his chances are far better if he’s actually playing in an offense that allows him to display his true strengths. This offense under Frost was never going to truly fit him. It sucks for us because now our depth at QB is severely thin, but the reality is anyone in the same position would have done something similar.
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Great post.
 
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HuskerDana said:
Thanks, man. I don't know about that, though. There's some pretty dsmn good posters on here.
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I don’t blame Gebbia for his decision. If we’re honest with ourselves any one of us would have done the same. The fact of the matter is that Gebbia’s long term prospect of being the stater at Nebraska was pretty slim. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I get it, he ran a similar RPO style offense in high school. But he was running that offense at the High School level against kids who, for the most part, were never going to set foot on a college football field. He wasn’t running it against the likes of Michigan, or Ohio State, or Wisconsin, etc. He may have had success, but long term Frost’s offense demands a true dual threat QB. And while Gebbia had a shot at earning the starting role, the fact is he was going to get beat out at some point.

He was brought here by the previous staff to run a Pro Style offense. Verduzco even said he thinks Gebbia has one of the top 5 arms in college football. The kid knows if he has a chance to play he’s going to get a look at the NFL. Will he make it to the NFL? Who knows, maybe not, but his chances are far better if he’s actually playing in an offense that allows him to display his true strengths. This offense under Frost was never going to truly fit him. It sucks for us because now our depth at QB is severely thin, but the reality is anyone in the same position would have done something similar.
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Good points. But they make you wonder why he didn’t leave with Patrick O’Brien instead of waiting until one week before the first game.
 
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Good points. But they make you wonder why he didn’t leave with Patrick O’Brien instead of waiting until one week before the first game.
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I’m not an insider, and I have no connection to any of the coaches so this is pure conjecture on my part, so take it for what it’s worth, which is not much. I do own a business though, so leadership and coaching are top priorities for my day to day operations. In fact that’s probably what I spend most of my time doing. Living in KC I’m taking this all in from arms length, but I’ve been very intrigued by this staff because of what I’m reading and hearing from them in interviews. Words like leadership, accountability, integrity, evaluation, not yelling at guys for making mistakes but teaching them. Only getting upset because of lack of effort. All of these things are applicable in any organization from football to business, to government so it’s interesting to watch and I find myself modeling some of what they are doing in my own business. Truly hope SF writes a book on leadership and coaching one day!

I say that to say this, from the very beginning this staff said that they were going to evaluate each player, and meet with each player individually and essentially “let them know where they stand.” That’s what a good leader does. They set clear expectations, and have, from what I can see, lived up to their word. The kids that have moved on have, IMO, done so because they knew where they stood. I’m guessing the same happened with POB. He was probably evaluated and told he had the opportunity to compete, but the reality was he was #3 after the initial evaluation period. Gebbia on the other hand was probably told he had a good shot at being the starter and that it would basically be between he and Martinez. From everything that I have seen and read, the coaches gave both Gebbia and Martinez time, expectations, evaluations, etc and I have no reason to believe the coaches lead either along. I think Gebbia had a shot at the starting position all along, whereas I don’t think that was the case with POB. I think in the end Gebbia was a good player who got beat out by a good player and it really was a battle to the end, so it made sense for Gebbia to compete for the job.
 
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z28craz said:
I don’t blame Gebbia for his decision. If we’re honest with ourselves any one of us would have done the same. The fact of the matter is that Gebbia’s long term prospect of being the stater at Nebraska was pretty slim. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I get it, he ran a similar RPO style offense in high school. But he was running that offense at the High School level against kids who, for the most part, were never going to set foot on a college football field. He wasn’t running it against the likes of Michigan, or Ohio State, or Wisconsin, etc. He may have had success, but long term Frost’s offense demands a true dual threat QB. And while Gebbia had a shot at earning the starting role, the fact is he was going to get beat out at some point.

He was brought here by the previous staff to run a Pro Style offense. Verduzco even said he thinks Gebbia has one of the top 5 arms in college football. The kid knows if he has a chance to play he’s going to get a look at the NFL. Will he make it to the NFL? Who knows, maybe not, but his chances are far better if he’s actually playing in an offense that allows him to display his true strengths. This offense under Frost was never going to truly fit him. It sucks for us because now our depth at QB is severely thin, but the reality is anyone in the same position would have done something similar.
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If the bolded is the actual reality of the situation, then Gebbia should have bounced at the end of Spring Ball when it was apparent that AMart was pretty much even with him in terms of his game. If his goal is the NFL and his true strength are not operating a Oregon-base spread but a Beaver-ball Pro style offense, then the quicker he got to that solution, the better for him.
I think the kid just wants to play, took a shot at NU and when that didn't pan out, he bounced. His immediate demeanor in conversation with Verduzco was either disingenuous, or he got his marching orders once his dad helicoptered into the situation.
 
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If the bolded is the actual reality of the situation, then Gebbia should have bounced at the end of Spring Ball when it was apparent that AMart was pretty much even with him in terms of his game. If his goal is the NFL and his true strength are not operating a Oregon-base spread but a Beaver-ball Pro style offense, then the quicker he got to that solution, the better for him.
I think the kid just wants to play, took a shot at NU and when that didn't pan out, he bounced. His immediate demeanor in conversation with Verduzco was either disingenuous, or he got his marching orders once his dad helicoptered into the situation.
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Have you ever witnessed a promotion competition at a place of business where a majority of the candidates were internal applicants? When the decision is made, the person(s) that weren't promoted say thank you for the opportunity, I will continue to work hard and hope for a different result next time. Sometimes those employees stick around, sometimes they start looking for a new job immediately after walking out the door. But very rarely, do they say well then I quit. See ya.
 
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Have you ever witnessed a promotion competition at a place of business where a majority of the candidates were internal applicants? When the decision is made, the person(s) that weren't promoted say thank you for the opportunity, I will continue to work hard and hope for a different result next time. Sometimes those employees stick around, sometimes they start looking for a new job immediately after walking out the door. But very rarely, do they say well then I quit. See ya.
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Just commenting on part that I bolded part from a prior post. The ability to transfer late in Fall camp is a substantial problem for coaches in terms of roster management. Gebbia has always given off a "no I's in team" vibe, but that was nowhere is evidence once the starter decision was made. I don't know if Frost has clearly alluded to what his thoughts on the probability of a Gebbia transfer, but the psn coach seemed more than a little blindsided. A less than charitable take would be that Gebbia had them snowed.
Gebbia's decision to stick it out until that last minute worked out for him (or perhaps not, he could end up a backup QB in Corvallis), but it blew a hole in NU's depth at QB. In hindsight, Frost should have sought out the best QB he could get on the JUCO/transfer market for depth and assumed nothing about Gebbia's intentions, or assumed the worst could happen. If one has two highly rated QBs that are comparable in years left, it is likely that at some point one will have only one.
Either Gebbia was less than honest in terms of communicating what decisions he might make, or he received some marching orders from the home front in terms of what he was expected to do.
 
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