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OK Im a receiver on a team that has NO DEPTH at Receiver
My team won 4 games and didnt score many points
The NEW guys offense leads the nation in scoring, they went 12-0 and the scheme creates lots of seperation that receivers DIDNT see at NU
But Im upset because I like the old stuff better than the new stuff?

Im thinking I should go to another team? Really?
Cant imagine a team with less WR depth than NU
Sit out a year away from my friends and play scout team- that's always fun
Take my chances that I can break into the starting lineup the following year
On a team NOT coached by someone that has consistently put up video game numbers on offense
Yep that sounds like a great plan- let me punch that ticket right away

BTW- we saw Tanner Lee throw into some pretty tight windows in 2017, When I watch football on Saturdays, I see the better teams receivers catching balls with good seperation- seperation I saw VERY LITTLE of with the 2017 NU offense.

If any of our receivers aren't smart enough to see that the new team will be MUCH better for their selfish self interests than the old team- not sure they are smart enough to play the game- let alone be able to find their way to the stadium or cafeteria without getting lost or running out in front of a bus- here at NU.

At the end of the day:
A post route is a post route
An arrow route is an arrow route
A choice route is a choice route
Ball get offs are ball get offs
Blocking is blocking
Frost has man and zone beaters, pre and post snap reads- just like the WCO guys. He has components of that offense in his passing game where it makes sense thanks to Walsh and his NFL days.

AND - they get more yards, score more touchdowns, play WAY MORE SNAPS and as an added BONUS- get to play on a team that will actually compete and win. Not sure how that isnt a BIGGER BETTER DEAL.


There isn't a bigger misconception about the Huskers in 2017 than the "separation" of the receiving corp. The team nearly had two 1,000 yard receivers, a 3rd option who had over 40 catches and 600+ yards. Hell they had a 2 tight ends whom combined for 40+ catches and 5 TDs.

The biggest issue was pressure and Nebraska's inability to recognize pressure, consistently block pressure, and how it often knocked the passing game off schedule. In reality, there were plenty of yards, points, and completions left off the field simply because the offensive line was often completely innept. Secondly, the absolute dumpster fire of a running game meant opponents had no reason to remain gap sound or play conservatively with extra bodies in the defensive backfield.

In reality, some times guys do get covered. Sometimes defenses recognize where they need to focus personnel. As a DC you hope you can force the QB into throwing that direction. It happened a lot more than necessary. Lastly, I can promise there were roughly 5 to 7 offensive plays per game where Nebraska had WIDE open receivers streaking behind the defense, but Tanner was either running for his life or already on his back.

Hell, Tyjion Lindsey could've had 6 or 7 TD's this season had a throw even been tossed his direction.... And knowing how predictable Langsdorf was to Opponents, I bet they often knew exactly when Nebraska was looking vertical strictly based on Tyjion's formation.

However, FWIW, you would have to be functionally slow to decline playing in Scott Frost's offense if you're a College football skill player. At UCF in 2017, they had 9 offensive players carry the football 20 or more times, and only 4 of them were running backs. They had 10 players with at least double digit catches. They constantly flex players in and out of the backfield with motion and will run or throw on any down and distance. You would be nuts to pass up that chance.
 

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Those numbers have to be tamped down a bit by the fact that NU was often times throwing because we were behind. I dont consider them legit.
And a lot of very good numbers got put up in garbage time when the D was playing soft or had their second teamers in

Agreed when you cant run or your running game consists of inside zone, outside zone and a jet sweep here or there AND your fundamentals stink along with poor play calling, the pass game will suffer AND you will lose games.

Frosts offense features a creative run game- IZ, OZ, Jet Sweep- but also ZOne read- with a TRUE QB run threat, Wham, Trap, Power O, GT counter and THEN- all the RUPOS- that put LBs and DBS into conflict with a legit run threat- pass option. You will even see some naked boots, inverted Zone Read (back running sweep, QB running zone) and maybe sweep read (inverted veer) and power read- older stuff Oregon used to run- and so did we.
 

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Well, this JUCO player plans to play. Hope he can come in and tear it up and help the defense work its way back to stopping other teams from scoring so damn much!

"You can put me anywhere on the field. But the stuff I have to work on, it's mostly discipline," Williams said. "Because sometimes I get too aggressive. But I can cover. I can hit. I can do anything basically ... and JUCO helped me with that discipline."

"I wouldn't put him at corner every down if you're going to play a bunch of man coverage, but he can play five different positions," Wilson said.
Maybe he can slide over to corner and replace our all-star or play both safety and nickel.

Deontai Williams' JUCO journey was both humbling and beneficial


He couldn't have expected even three weeks ago the road would take him to Lincoln, Nebraska, just as he wouldn't have ever thought three years ago it would bring him to a football field in Ellisville, Mississippi.

But then you're there, in a town of 4,500, fighting for football survival, learning plenty about yourself along the way.

"Anything can happen in JUCO ball," said Deontai Williams. "You can succeed. You can get hurt. Anything can happen that can punish your career."

Or push it.

Perhaps what it ultimately was for Williams was a disguised blessing. That's how the new Husker safety signee can view it now as he prepares to make Lincoln his home on Jan. 6.

Williams is blunt about what his plans are when he shows up: "My focus when I step on campus is to put my foot down, make a statement."

He'll have three years to play three at Nebraska, finally feeling "stress free" about a recruiting process that goes back a few years and was a winding road in which he was linked to multiple schools along the way.

Out of Trinity Christian Academy in Jacksonville, Florida, he'd once been committed to Florida, then Georgia, then signed with Frank Solich's Ohio U in 2015, before ending up there in Ellisville.

"It was a humbling experience," Williams said. "I had to grow up fast. And it helped me be a student of the game, to know every position on the football field. It really helped me grow as a football player."

What he grew to at Jones County was the No. 2 rated safety in the junior-college ranks.

"Violent football player. He's not just physical. He's violent," said Jones County D-coordinator Dwike Wilson. "He can really come out of his hips and cause damage."

The 6-foot-1, 200-pound Williams prides himself on his versatility as much as he does in delivering hard knocks.

"You can put me anywhere on the field. But the stuff I have to work on, it's mostly discipline," Williams said. "Because sometimes I get too aggressive. But I can cover. I can hit. I can do anything basically ... and JUCO helped me with that discipline."

His former coach can back that up.

You'll find a lot of guys who are just box safeties, Wilson will tell you. They'll give you some thump, but you can't count on them being athletic enough to play outside the hash marks in man coverage.

"I wouldn't put him at corner every down if you're going to play a bunch of man coverage, but he can play five different positions," Wilson said.

Nebraska wasn't on Williams' mind until Scott Frost came aboard, of course.

The defensive back had committed to Florida in June and was ready to be done with recruiting once and for all. Then the Gators fired Jim McElwain.

"And he just felt that the school didn't really want him," Wilson said. "They were just taking him because he was someone else's commit. That's one thing we always go through with players here: You want to go somewhere where the depth chart's right, and plus, they really want you. And that's one thing about Nebraska: They really wanted him. That's what he really wanted to have."

Williams also is no stranger to Nebraska's defensive backs coach, Travis Fisher.

The new Husker assistant and Williams' dad, Roosevelt Williams, were actually drafted in the same class at the same position at the same part of the draft. Fisher was taken as the 64th pick overall, while Williams was picked 72nd. They've had a kinship ever since that draft year.

So, after all that has occurred on this recruiting journey, it didn't hurt Nebraska's cause when Fisher told his old friend, "He comes here, we're taking care of him. You don't have to worry about anything."
 

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Where is Jackson in the secondary? You think he will transfer? Or is he just going to be low on the depth chart?

Good Lord....Joshua Moore already decommited before Frost even announced as the new HC and Cameron Brown signed with Ohio State. And why were these two guys included in the receiving corps? Woodyard, McGriff or LeGrone would make more sense.
 

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There isn't a bigger misconception about the Huskers in 2017 than the "separation" of the receiving corp. The team nearly had two 1,000 yard receivers, a 3rd option who had over 40 catches and 600+ yards. Hell they had a 2 tight ends whom combined for 40+ catches and 5 TDs.

The biggest issue was pressure and Nebraska's inability to recognize pressure, consistently block pressure, and how it often knocked the passing game off schedule. In reality, there were plenty of yards, points, and completions left off the field simply because the offensive line was often completely innept. Secondly, the absolute dumpster fire of a running game meant opponents had no reason to remain gap sound or play conservatively with extra bodies in the defensive backfield.

In reality, some times guys do get covered. Sometimes defenses recognize where they need to focus personnel. As a DC you hope you can force the QB into throwing that direction. It happened a lot more than necessary. Lastly, I can promise there were roughly 5 to 7 offensive plays per game where Nebraska had WIDE open receivers streaking behind the defense, but Tanner was either running for his life or already on his back.

Hell, Tyjion Lindsey could've had 6 or 7 TD's this season had a throw even been tossed his direction.... And knowing how predictable Langsdorf was to Opponents, I bet they often knew exactly when Nebraska was looking vertical strictly based on Tyjion's formation.

However, FWIW, you would have to be functionally slow to decline playing in Scott Frost's offense if you're a College football skill player. At UCF in 2017, they had 9 offensive players carry the football 20 or more times, and only 4 of them were running backs. They had 10 players with at least double digit catches. They constantly flex players in and out of the backfield with motion and will run or throw on any down and distance. You would be nuts to pass up that chance.

I would argue the running game sucked, also, because the OL was horrible. Our RBs last year were descent. Not burners, but good between the tackles, with a little wiggle and burst. Just more proof Cav was about as bad as it gets. GBR
 

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More adjustments. We still have issues at DB depth. Deontai Williams helps at safety, but what about immediate CB help?

Quality at starting CB may hurt. Hopefully Chinander and Fisher can get the players to where they need to be.

OLB and ILB depth will continue to be tough to predict until spring practices are well under way. Do any OLBs move inside and vice versa?

The Chris Walker moving to defensive line rumors are swirling.

From the sounds of it, with the spring game moving back a week, spring practice will start a couple weeks later (March 26th?) as well so spring break doesn't come between practices, making us have to wait even longer to find out about position changes!! Hopefully Sean and Nate can eventually find out some info on that during winter conditioning.


Offense - How can anyone not be excited about the offense?

QB
Adrian Martinez
Andrew Bunch or Tristan Gebbia or Patrick O'Brien
Starting to agree with those that say one or two QBs will transfer. Hopefully not two since we didn't get land a second good quality QB in this class.

RB
Greg Bell or Jaylin Bradley
Miles Jones or Mikale Wilbon
Wyatt Mazour
Tre Bryant? (Still nothing official, just rumors)

WR
Tyjon Lindsey
Jaron Woodyard
Mike Williams

WR
JD Spielman
Miles Jones
Keyan Williams

WR
Stanley Morgan Jr.
Jaevon McQuitty
Dominick Watt

LT
Brenden Jaimes
Christian Gaylord

LG
Boe Wilson
Jerald Foster

C
Tanner Farmer
Michael Decker

RG
Boe Wilson
John Raridon or Cole Conrad

RT
Matt Farniok
Matt Sichterman

TE
Jack Stoll or Cameron Jurgens
Kurt Rafdal or Austin Allen


Defense

DE
Chris Walker or Khalil Davis
Freedom Akinmoladun

DT
Deontre Thomas
Mick Stoltenberg

DE
Carlos Davis
Damien Daniels

OLB
Luke Gifford
Tyrin Ferguson or Willie Hampton or Collin Miller

ILB
Will Honas
Pernell Jefferson

ILB
Mohamed Barry or Avery Roberts
Andrew Ward

OLB
Ben Stille or Guy Thomas
Quayshon Alexander

CB
Eric Lee Jr.
Avery Anderson

S
Aaron Williams or Deontai Williams
Marquel Dismuke

S
JoJo Domann
Antonio Reed

CB
Dicaprio Bootle or Jeremiah Stovall
Lamar Jackson
 

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More adjustments. We still have issues at DB depth. Deontai Williams helps at safety, but what about immediate CB help?

Quality at starting CB may hurt. Hopefully Chinander and Fisher can get the players to where they need to be.

OLB and ILB depth will continue to be tough to predict until spring practices are well under way. Do any OLBs move inside and vice versa?

The Chris Walker moving to defensive line rumors are swirling.

From the sounds of it, with the spring game moving back a week, spring practice will start a couple weeks later (March 26th?) as well so spring break doesn't come between practices, making us have to wait even longer to find out about position changes!! Hopefully Sean and Nate can eventually find out some info on that during winter conditioning.


Offense - How can anyone not be excited about the offense?

QB
Adrian Martinez
Andrew Bunch or Tristan Gebbia or Patrick O'Brien
Starting to agree with those that say one or two QBs will transfer. Hopefully not two since we didn't get land a second good quality QB in this class.

RB
Greg Bell or Jaylin Bradley
Miles Jones or Mikale Wilbon
Wyatt Mazour
Tre Bryant? (Still nothing official, just rumors)

WR
Tyjon Lindsey
Jaron Woodyard
Mike Williams

WR
JD Spielman
Miles Jones
Keyan Williams

WR
Stanley Morgan Jr.
Jaevon McQuitty
Dominick Watt

LT
Brenden Jaimes
Christian Gaylord

LG
Boe Wilson
Jerald Foster

C
Tanner Farmer
Michael Decker

RG
Boe Wilson
John Raridon or Cole Conrad

RT
Matt Farniok
Matt Sichterman

TE
Jack Stoll or Cameron Jurgens
Kurt Rafdal or Austin Allen


Defense

DE
Chris Walker or Khalil Davis
Freedom Akinmoladun

DT
Deontre Thomas
Mick Stoltenberg

DE
Carlos Davis
Damien Daniels

OLB
Luke Gifford
Tyrin Ferguson or Willie Hampton or Collin Miller

ILB
Will Honas
Pernell Jefferson

ILB
Mohamed Barry or Avery Roberts
Andrew Ward

OLB
Ben Stille or Guy Thomas
Quayshon Alexander

CB
Eric Lee Jr.
Avery Anderson

S
Aaron Williams or Deontai Williams
Marquel Dismuke

S
JoJo Domann
Antonio Reed

CB
Dicaprio Bootle or Jeremiah Stovall
Lamar Jackson
Agree with everything besides OL and DB's. I share the same concern with our CB's and we're going to have to get creative to find some quality at the position. If Reed gets beat out by Domann at safety, I can see him switching to corner, and I think Deontai Williams is going to play corner. I think one of those two will get the starting CB spot and Lamar Jackson will get the other. I think Reed has played nickel so we can use him there as well.

For OL, I think it will be Jaimes, Wilson, Decker, Farmer, Conrad starting in that order. I don't think Farniok has any chance to start.
 

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Why are people putting Chris Walker in the starting lineup? He does seem to have good size, but we didn't hear a peep about him last season.
 

Huskercigar

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So basically everyone is back from last year and they will finally be coached how to play the game. Coupled with some Junior College guys, I think this team could be better than a 5 or 6 win team. Hell they were better than a 4 win team this year, imo. They should have won at least 8 this year, if they had better coaching.
You are right that we were better than a 4 win team last year. However the schedule is so much different. Last year we had Wisconsin, Iowa and Ohio State, and Northwestern all at home. Our toughest road game was Penn State. This year we travel to Michigan, Ohio State, Wisconsin, Northwestern and Iowa. We get Michigan State and an improved Purdue and Minnesota at home. We could see tons of improvement and be in games we weren't last year and still lose them. But it would be nice not to be out of the game at half time like we were about 4 or 5 times last year
 

Huskercigar

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Added a couple new players and adjusted a little...

Offense

QB
Tristan Gebbia or
Patrick O'Brien or
Andrew Bunch or
Adrian Martinez

RB
Greg Bell or Jaylin Bradley
Wyatt Mazour or Devine Ozigbo or Mikale Wilbon
Tre Bryant?

WR
Tyjon Lindsey
Jaron Woodyard
<not on team yet>

WR
JD Spielman
Keyan Williams
Conor Young

WR
Stanley Morgan Jr.
Jaevon McQuitty
Bryan Reimers

LT
Nick Gates
Chris Walker
Christian Gaylord

LG
Jerald Foster or John Raridon

C
Michael Decker
John Raridon
Cole Conrad

RG
Boe Wilson
Tanner Farmer

RT
Brenden Jaimes
Matt Farniok

TE
Jack Stoll or Cameron Jurgens
Kurt Rafdal or Austin Allen or David Engelhaupt
Matt Snyder


Defense
DE
Freedom Akinmoladun
Khalil Davis

DT
Mick Stoltenberg
Deontre Thomas

DE
Carlos Davis
Alex Davis

OLB
Luke Gifford
Tyrin Ferguson
Willie Hampton

ILB
Will Honas
Mohamed Barry
Collin Miller
Pernell Jefferson

ILB
Avery Roberts or
Dedrick Young II
Andrew Ward

OLB
Ben Stille
Guy Thomas
Quayshon Alexander
Sedrick King

CB
Eric Lee Jr.
Avery Anderson

S
Aaron Williams
Deontai Williams or
Marquel Dismuke

S
JoJo Domann
Antonio Reed
CJ Smith

CB
Dicaprio Bootle or Jeremiah Stovall
Lamar Jackson
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Notes:
QB - I don't think anyone knows who might end up starting until at least halfway through spring practice. This will be some damn good competition to watch. At least everyone will be practicing their a$$es off in the spring trying to earn it.

RB - Multiple backs will play in Frost's system and get a lot of carries. Probably doesn't matter who starts as they reps will be shared quite a bit. IMO, the speed backs will be on the field sooner and end up being the ones making the leaps to the top of the depth chart.

WR - I placed the previous players based on the 2017 Iowa game depth chart positions. Who knows if Frost's receivers will adjust positions in his offense vs what Langsdorf ran. I bet we will see 3 more WRs added on NSD in February, especially with the comments that Frost made on the radio regarding WR numbers.

OL - I bet a lot of younger kids get a shot. I could see plenty of younger guys overtaking the old starters. Hopefully it will be true competition and push all players to get better. The OL definitely looks like it will change how it blocks in Frost's offense compared to Langsdorf's. Maybe the old starters will surprise us with the best addition by subtraction this school has ever had (Coach Cav).

DL - I could see this adjusting quite a bit based on the new staff. Who knows where these players will even end up.

LB - Who knows where some of the OLB and DEs will end up playing in the new system. I could see major changes in the LB groups. Good competition coming with the numbers we return though IMO.

DB - Can this group get better by getting some newcomers? Doubtful at the moment for CBs since we didn't land a JUCO and most of the top high school CBs probably already signed with a team. LJ hasn't impressed anyone since he arrived in Lincoln. Will he switch positions? (Never heard anything, I am just thinking about how to better use him) I bet we will sign at least 2 more CBs in February. With Frost's comments on the radio about the DB positions, it sounds like he wants a few more here.

I like this summary and depth chart. A good mix of recognizing we might have some impact players coming in or coming off the redshirt. I'm not sure a questionable Senior has an upper hand over an underclassman with Heart. I do think SF will do wonders with the culture "quickly" however after three years of ***** ball you have to be realistic that a couple tenured players could be left behind. And its too bad for them. Its all they knew at the college level.
 

Huskercigar

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Gebbia crushes it, and Martinez redshirts.

RB is our deepest, most impressive position.

We win 6-9 games. Seriously.

DT, DE and OL addressed in the next recruiting cycle. Big time.

My guess...
Even if Gebbia crushes it I don't see Martinez starting. For that matter even if POB crushes it. I think SF will keep 3 active QB's. I'm really wondering why everyone thinks Gebbia will do better in this offense than POB. POB was a much better runner in High School than Gebbia was.
 

Huskercigar

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OK Im a receiver on a team that has NO DEPTH at Receiver
My team won 4 games and didnt score many points
The NEW guys offense leads the nation in scoring, they went 12-0 and the scheme creates lots of seperation that receivers DIDNT see at NU
But Im upset because I like the old stuff better than the new stuff?

Im thinking I should go to another team? Really?
Cant imagine a team with less WR depth than NU
Sit out a year away from my friends and play scout team- that's always fun
Take my chances that I can break into the starting lineup the following year
On a team NOT coached by someone that has consistently put up video game numbers on offense
Yep that sounds like a great plan- let me punch that ticket right away

BTW- we saw Tanner Lee throw into some pretty tight windows in 2017, When I watch football on Saturdays, I see the better teams receivers catching balls with good seperation- seperation I saw VERY LITTLE of with the 2017 NU offense.

If any of our receivers aren't smart enough to see that the new team will be MUCH better for their selfish self interests than the old team- not sure they are smart enough to play the game- let alone be able to find their way to the stadium or cafeteria without getting lost or running out in front of a bus- here at NU.

At the end of the day:
A post route is a post route
An arrow route is an arrow route
A choice route is a choice route
Ball get offs are ball get offs
Blocking is blocking
Frost has man and zone beaters, pre and post snap reads- just like the WCO guys. He has components of that offense in his passing game where it makes sense thanks to Walsh and his NFL days.

AND - they get more yards, score more touchdowns, play WAY MORE SNAPS and as an added BONUS- get to play on a team that will actually compete and win. Not sure how that isnt a BIGGER BETTER DEAL.
Bingo on the Separation. I have been beating that drum for two years with Keith Williams. So many people thought he was so great and I wasn't seeing separation of caught balls. One players dad told me he was the biggest fake on the team. He was a pretty good recruiter because he was a used care salesman when talking on social media. I know people will argue that so many people in the NFL came back to work with him in the summers but I can't explain that. Maybe the better coaches weren't available or maybe he offered happy hour prices for doing it. Whatever. What I can explain was what we saw on the field with our players. Dropped balls, no separation and no development.
 

Huskercigar

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There isn't a bigger misconception about the Huskers in 2017 than the "separation" of the receiving corp. The team nearly had two 1,000 yard receivers, a 3rd option who had over 40 catches and 600+ yards. Hell they had a 2 tight ends whom combined for 40+ catches and 5 TDs.

The biggest issue was pressure and Nebraska's inability to recognize pressure, consistently block pressure, and how it often knocked the passing game off schedule. In reality, there were plenty of yards, points, and completions left off the field simply because the offensive line was often completely innept. Secondly, the absolute dumpster fire of a running game meant opponents had no reason to remain gap sound or play conservatively with extra bodies in the defensive backfield.

In reality, some times guys do get covered. Sometimes defenses recognize where they need to focus personnel. As a DC you hope you can force the QB into throwing that direction. It happened a lot more than necessary. Lastly, I can promise there were roughly 5 to 7 offensive plays per game where Nebraska had WIDE open receivers streaking behind the defense, but Tanner was either running for his life or already on his back.

Hell, Tyjion Lindsey could've had 6 or 7 TD's this season had a throw even been tossed his direction.... And knowing how predictable Langsdorf was to Opponents, I bet they often knew exactly when Nebraska was looking vertical strictly based on Tyjion's formation.

However, FWIW, you would have to be functionally slow to decline playing in Scott Frost's offense if you're a College football skill player. At UCF in 2017, they had 9 offensive players carry the football 20 or more times, and only 4 of them were running backs. They had 10 players with at least double digit catches. They constantly flex players in and out of the backfield with motion and will run or throw on any down and distance. You would be nuts to pass up that chance.

I will respectfully disagree on the separation. No doubt there were issues associated with line play......well documented. And yes there were issues with not getting the ball to an open receiver. There are exceptions in every case and in every game. However there were way too many times when Tanner was holding on to the ball way too long trying to find someone open and then forcing one into a closely guarded receiver.
 

Huskercigar

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I would argue the running game sucked, also, because the OL was horrible. Our RBs last year were descent. Not burners, but good between the tackles, with a little wiggle and burst. Just more proof Cav was about as bad as it gets. GBR
I'm not sure I remember a running back in a called play that didn't go between the tackles.
 

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Even if Gebbia crushes it I don't see Martinez starting. For that matter even if POB crushes it. I think SF will keep 3 active QB's. I'm really wondering why everyone thinks Gebbia will do better in this offense than POB. POB was a much better runner in High School than Gebbia was.
The word on Gebbia is that he's a gamer.. one of those intangibles where he just sort of makes things happen. I also think POB fits this offense well, but he may not pull as many rabbits out of the hat. He did post video game like stats in high school, but I would put him at #2 on the depth chart. Martinez is likely going to be battling with Bunch for the #3 spot and/or running the scout team this year. In my opinion, something extraordinary would need to happen where Gebbia is not the QB next year.

I believe Bell & Bradley are going to be the running backs. We could use a third in this class as well. The idea that some people have that we have a deep and impressive running back room must be a joke or something. Now Tre would have been a good back in this system, but with the knee issues, doesn't sound like he is viable. I don't think the other backs are good enough to see much if any playing time. That RB room needs to be turned over quickly, and would like to see one more added this year.
 

Huskercigar

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I believe Bell & Bradley are going to be the running backs. We could use a third in this class as well. The idea that some people have that we have a deep and impressive running back room must be a joke or something. Now Tre would have been a good back in this system, but with the knee issues, doesn't sound like he is viable. I don't think the other backs are good enough to see much if any playing time. That RB room needs to be turned over quickly, and would like to see one more added this year.

It's tough to agree or disagree on the RB thing. It just seems like we were so vanilla in our offensive play calling with the RB scheme and the line. We just failed to get a running back outside. Every play was between the tackles.
 

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More adjustments. We still have issues at DB depth. Deontai Williams helps at safety, but what about immediate CB help?

Quality at starting CB may hurt. Hopefully Chinander and Fisher can get the players to where they need to be.

OLB and ILB depth will continue to be tough to predict until spring practices are well under way. Do any OLBs move inside and vice versa?

The Chris Walker moving to defensive line rumors are swirling.

From the sounds of it, with the spring game moving back a week, spring practice will start a couple weeks later (March 26th?) as well so spring break doesn't come between practices, making us have to wait even longer to find out about position changes!! Hopefully Sean and Nate can eventually find out some info on that during winter conditioning.


Offense - How can anyone not be excited about the offense?

QB
Adrian Martinez
Andrew Bunch or Tristan Gebbia or Patrick O'Brien
Starting to agree with those that say one or two QBs will transfer. Hopefully not two since we didn't get land a second good quality QB in this class.

RB
Greg Bell or Jaylin Bradley
Miles Jones or Mikale Wilbon
Wyatt Mazour
Tre Bryant? (Still nothing official, just rumors)

WR
Tyjon Lindsey
Jaron Woodyard
Mike Williams

WR
JD Spielman
Miles Jones
Keyan Williams

WR
Stanley Morgan Jr.
Jaevon McQuitty
Dominick Watt

LT
Brenden Jaimes
Christian Gaylord

LG
Boe Wilson
Jerald Foster

C
Tanner Farmer
Michael Decker

RG
Boe Wilson
John Raridon or Cole Conrad

RT
Matt Farniok
Matt Sichterman

TE
Jack Stoll or Cameron Jurgens
Kurt Rafdal or Austin Allen


Defense

DE
Chris Walker or Khalil Davis
Freedom Akinmoladun

DT
Deontre Thomas
Mick Stoltenberg

DE
Carlos Davis
Damien Daniels

OLB
Luke Gifford
Tyrin Ferguson or Willie Hampton or Collin Miller

ILB
Will Honas
Pernell Jefferson

ILB
Mohamed Barry or Avery Roberts
Andrew Ward

OLB
Ben Stille or Guy Thomas
Quayshon Alexander

CB
Eric Lee Jr.
Avery Anderson

S
Aaron Williams or Deontai Williams
Marquel Dismuke

S
JoJo Domann
Antonio Reed

CB
Dicaprio Bootle or Jeremiah Stovall
Lamar Jackson

Thanks for taking the time to create this...it is appreciated by this poster!!

However, WHERE IS THE FULLBACK when Coach Frost has the team come out in the Power-I for the first play at the spring game?!! Winking

 

davecisar

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I will respectfully disagree on the separation. No doubt there were issues associated with line play......well documented. And yes there were issues with not getting the ball to an open receiver. There are exceptions in every case and in every game. However there were way too many times when Tanner was holding on to the ball way too long trying to find someone open and then forcing one into a closely guarded receiver.

I still am trying to figure out Keith Williams
Enthusiastic, hard working, has credibility in community, kids love him, good recruiter. His "Wideouts U" thing had some traction-seemed like a reasonable approach to attracting kids.

BUT against the better teams first teams- our receiving corps usually had a heck of a time creating separation. I watch a lot of College football and most Saturdays I watched, lots of teams getting good separation for the receivers, while NU most of the time relied on near perfect throws into tight windows or well covered receivers. Was it a scheme thing? A playcalling thing? A pass protection thing? Or a player development/technique thing? Or Rileys insistence on not developing/committing to the runt the ball. We shall see in about 8 months. Cant answer that one- however even on those rare occaisions where Lee had good time to throw- I didnt see much separation.
 

inWV

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I still am trying to figure out Keith Williams
Enthusiastic, hard working, has credibility in community, kids love him, good recruiter. His "Wideouts U" thing had some traction-seemed like a reasonable approach to attracting kids.

BUT against the better teams first teams- our receiving corps usually had a heck of a time creating separation. I watch a lot of College football and most Saturdays I watched, lots of teams getting good separation for the receivers, while NU most of the time relied on near perfect throws into tight windows or well covered receivers. Was it a scheme thing? A playcalling thing? A pass protection thing? Or a player development/technique thing? Or Rileys insistence on not developing/committing to the runt the ball. We shall see in about 8 months. Cant answer that one- however even on those rare occaisions where Lee had good time to throw- I didnt see much separation.
I would say that if opposing DBs don’t have to worry about a RB or QB with a ball entering their area of responsibility, they are free to fully focus on coverage on any down. If DBs have to account for chunk yardage runs, receivers will have better luck shaking free on routes.
 

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Thanks for taking the time to create this...it is appreciated by this poster!!

However, WHERE IS THE FULLBACK when Coach Frost has the team come out in the Power-I for the first play at the spring game?!! Winking


Frost actually has an awesome plan for the fullback at the spring game! I heard three different rumors that are in the works:

1. First play from scrimmage they are lined up in the Power-I. The fullback goes into motion and runs right off the field into the locker rooms... never to be heard from again!

2. First play from scrimmage they are lined up in the Power-I. The fullback takes a quick hand-off up the middle and goes for a TD... and doesn't stop running! He runs to the lock room and is never heard from again!

3. First play from scrimmage they are lined up in the Power-I. The fullback takes the hand-off. The OL doesn't block anyone at all! (big surprise!) The full back is slaughtered and then dog-piled on. By the time the defensive players get off the pile, the fullback is dead and Frost walks out and places a headstone by Ben Miles' head, signaling that the end of the fullback at Nebraska. Frost pulls a microphone out of his sleeve and announces to the crowd that Nebraska fans are going to have to adjust to his offense!
 

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I still am trying to figure out Keith Williams
Enthusiastic, hard working, has credibility in community, kids love him, good recruiter. His "Wideouts U" thing had some traction-seemed like a reasonable approach to attracting kids.

BUT against the better teams first teams- our receiving corps usually had a heck of a time creating separation. I watch a lot of College football and most Saturdays I watched, lots of teams getting good separation for the receivers, while NU most of the time relied on near perfect throws into tight windows or well covered receivers. Was it a scheme thing? A playcalling thing? A pass protection thing? Or a player development/technique thing? Or Rileys insistence on not developing/committing to the runt the ball. We shall see in about 8 months. Cant answer that one- however even on those rare occaisions where Lee had good time to throw- I didnt see much separation.
I think it was a combination of several things 1 Rileys offensive scheme 2 absences of a running game 3 poor Oline 4 some schools in the big 10 get by with holding up interfering with the receivers actually pretty blatant imo
 

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Frost actually has an awesome plan for the fullback at the spring game! I heard three different rumors that are in the works:

1. First play from scrimmage they are lined up in the Power-I. The fullback goes into motion and runs right off the field into the locker rooms... never to be heard from again!

2. First play from scrimmage they are lined up in the Power-I. The fullback takes a quick hand-off up the middle and goes for a TD... and doesn't stop running! He runs to the lock room and is never heard from again!

3. First play from scrimmage they are lined up in the Power-I. The fullback takes the hand-off. The OL doesn't block anyone at all! (big surprise!) The full back is slaughtered and then dog-piled on. By the time the defensive players get off the pile, the fullback is dead and Frost walks out and places a headstone by Ben Miles' head, signaling that the end of the fullback at Nebraska. Frost pulls a microphone out of his sleeve and announces to the crowd that Nebraska fans are going to have to adjust to his offense!

I know it is early but I would like this post to be considered for the 2018 Post of the Year!!

Maybe this post will will be 1620 Unsportsmanlike Conduct Message Board Posting of the Day on Monday...hint hint!! Winking
 
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barney44

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I watch a lot of College football and most Saturdays I watched, lots of teams getting good separation for the receivers, while NU most of the time relied on near perfect throws into tight windows or well covered receivers. Was it a scheme thing? A playcalling thing? A pass protection thing? Or a player development/technique thing? Or Rileys insistence on not developing/committing to the runt the ball.

In a WCO style scheme you rely on a horizontal passing game more so than other systems. That means your receivers play in traffic a lot so your QB having to get the ball in to tight windows is a common theme. This is one of the reasons I hate that offensive style in the college game, the other is it's poor focus on the running game.
 

barney44

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Frost actually has an awesome plan for the fullback at the spring game! I heard three different rumors that are in the works:

1. First play from scrimmage they are lined up in the Power-I. The fullback goes into motion and runs right off the field into the locker rooms... never to be heard from again!

2. First play from scrimmage they are lined up in the Power-I. The fullback takes a quick hand-off up the middle and goes for a TD... and doesn't stop running! He runs to the lock room and is never heard from again!

3. First play from scrimmage they are lined up in the Power-I. The fullback takes the hand-off. The OL doesn't block anyone at all! (big surprise!) The full back is slaughtered and then dog-piled on. By the time the defensive players get off the pile, the fullback is dead and Frost walks out and places a headstone by Ben Miles' head, signaling that the end of the fullback at Nebraska. Frost pulls a microphone out of his sleeve and announces to the crowd that Nebraska fans are going to have to adjust to his offense!

Awesome stuff...

I like #2..