Amad Anderson decommits

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I'm verbally committed to Kate Upton, but if I get any other interest, I may have to re-open my commitment........
Kate Upton had verbally committed to RUfromSoCal but decommitted when Justin Verlander recruited her. He may rescind the offer though and come crawling back to SoCal.
 

AreYouNUTS

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According to Todderick:

"Rutgers put forth a strong effort in its 35-24 win over Illinois on Saturday. But in the end, it wasn't enough to secure N.Y.'s most dynamic recruit, as Purdue, among others, appear to be coming on strong down the stretch.
Maryland was originally thought to be a leader for his services along with Rutgers, but Anderson trended away from the Terps as his decision neared. "

Don't want to sound like I am ripping on this particular kid, but it is absolutely short-sighted and not smart to make your decision by living in the moment of the current W-L record or recent game performance of a team. Coaches come and go, and teams can be trending upward even though not currently winning or playing their best football. He listed Academics, Athletics and Atmosphere. He can have all three here. What kind of Atmosphere does Purdue have other than a Big Drum. Have fun in West Lafayette, Indiana. Sounds like a great place for a kid from NYC.

It's safe to say that he's "front-running" a tad right now. Commits to us, then is a Maryland lean when they start off the season with a "W" over Texas, and now is on to Purdue. Kids will be kids lol!
 
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It's safe to say that he's "front-running" a tad right now. Commits to us, then is a Maryland lean when they start off the season with a "W" over Texas, and now is on to Purdue. Kids will be kids lol!
So when we win out the season, he will be ours again. :joy:
 
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RUfromSoCal?

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Kate Upton had verbally committed to RUfromSoCal but decommitted when Justin Verlander recruited her. He may rescind the offer though and come crawling back to SoCal.

After careful consideration, prayer and discussion with my magic 8-ball I've decided to re-open my commitment processes....... This decision has nothing to do with me finding-out about this Verlander character....

Please respect my process #NotTakingInterviewsAtThisTime
 

Caliknight

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one day this will get so goofy that some hot-shot drama generating recruit will verbal to 2 or 3 schools at once and say he will sort it all out on signing day -

Lol, that seems to be where this is all heading.
 

Knight Shift

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After careful consideration, prayer and discussion with my magic 8-ball I've decided to re-open my commitment processes....... This decision has nothing to do with me finding-out about this Verlander character....

Please respect my process #NotTakingInterviewsAtThisTime
It's OK, Kate is not happy with all of those Yankees hitting on Verlander. You still have a shot. Pray some more.
 

RU#1fan

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Again, does anyone see this profound improvement over Kyle Floods recruiting classes? Not looking to flame here just asking an honest question because I do not see an improvement.

Come on man... we are beating out Fordham and Stony Brook for recruits. Of course things for 2018 are improving.
 
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SoCal I used to wear my 8 ball shirt in San Diego and nobody cared. When I returned to Jersey it was a hot topic. :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:
 

RU#1fan

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Carroo never redshirted. He played in all 13 games, mainly on special teams. Way too early to be speculating on Melton. IMO

Oh yes.... 2012. Playing behind WR Brandon Coleman ( NFL ) , WR Tim Wright ( NFL) , WR Mark Harrison, WR Quron Pratt. Carroo had a little more WR competition ahead of him vs. Melton this year.
 

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Carroo never redshirted. He played in all 13 games, mainly on special teams. Way too early to be speculating on Melton. IMO

But Carroo wasn't playing. What makes Melton somewhat concerning is that he's actually on the field. How many routes did carrot run that year?
 

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Can you blame him? Our offense didn't complete a pass to s wide receiver a few weeks ago and last week threw just 10 passes. Who wants to play in that offense? Star freshman Bo Melton has 1 catch all season. Complete waste.

Ash needs to figure the offense out quicker or he will lose complete control of the narrative with recruits (if that already hadn't happened6.

Quite correct. Although his talk of academics is misplaced.. unless he wants UNC-style "academics" that we do not offer... we need to be selling in every way possible.. even to "verbals". WRs want to play in an exciting offense.. defensive players want to play in an exciting defense. All players want to win.. and want to play in an exciting atmosphere.

Years ago many here pointed at an offense that did not want to throw downfield as one that chased away WR recruits.. and that playing QB for a whole game no matter what he has done.. well, that chases away QB recruits who think no matter what they do they won't win the job.

Its a multiple-level catch-22. You need to win to get talent and you need talent to win. Then add in that you can only do what the talent you have is able to do.. so we may want to throw downfield to appeal to wr recruits.. but we might not be able to do that until we have the QB and WRs to do it... to keep the defenses honest.

What we need is recruits to commit in good faith and then stick by their commitments. We have many of those now.. everyone we have had other choices. For every recruit that eschews Rutgers for some other program and it works out for them there are several who it does not work out for. Rutgers has a lot to offer... but we need to offer exciting football too.. and soon.
 
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It sucks, but, of course, the kid can go wherever he wants. -Still, it is interesting that in praying to God about their college choice/destination, the good Lord always seems to confirm what the recruit, his parents, and his inner circle want him to do anyway, (and what the prospect fully intends to do regardless of any "divine intervention" received via prayer).

I guess, however, that sounds "deeper" and more thought out than simply saying, "I think I can do better; everybody around me thinks I can do better, so I'm blowin' off my original pledge because, well...I can. -Oh, and no interviews, please, since I don't want to have to answer any questions that might make it seem like, 'ya know, a commitment from me isn't worth a bucket of warm spit ".

Like I said, this young guy can go to whatever university he wants, and the best of luck to him. I just wish every now and again someone who backs off his verbal would simply leave the "divinely inspired" references, (which seem to have become pro forma in these situations), out of the picture.
 

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But Carroo wasn't playing. What makes Melton somewhat concerning is that he's actually on the field. How many routes did carrot run that year?
Not sure what you mean by playing. He played in all 13 games like I stated. How much was offense or special teams, you find out on your own. I'm not doing film study on 13 games from 2012.
 

madchuck

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Not sure what you mean by playing. He played in all 13 games like I stated. How much was offense or special teams, you find out on your own. I'm not doing film study on 13 games from 2012.

He started 0 games at receiver his freshman year.
 

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But Carroo wasn't playing. What makes Melton somewhat concerning is that he's actually on the field. How many routes did carrot run that year?
We play a ridiculously conservative offense, with QB's who have trouble finding receivers, especially wide outs.

His freshman season is not encouraging, certainly not exciting, but I'm not that worried about it.

However, if I were Anderson or some other WR recruit, watching our passing game, I'd probably think about going somewhere else too. And Purdue looks like a good option.
 

madchuck

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We play a ridiculously conservative offense, with QB's who have trouble finding receivers, especially wide outs.

His freshman season is not encouraging, certainly not exciting, but I'm not that worried about it.

However, if I were Anderson or some other WR recruit, watching our passing game, I'd probably think about going somewhere else too. And Purdue looks like a good option.

I am not calling Melton a bust. It would be idiotic to call a true Freshman a bust even if we ran Washington State's offense. But you can't say that it's encouraging for a four star recruit who's been in the starting lineup and played a lot to have one catch all season. And although we didn't throw against Illinois, which is what all the Gio critics are saying "he completed five passes." We tried to throw against EMU and Nebraska. We threw 34 times against Washington, 29 times against Nebraska and 37 passes against EMU. We couldn't throw for more than 200 yards.
 

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I am not calling Melton a bust. It would be idiotic to call a true Freshman a bust even if we ran Washington State's offense. But you can't say that it's encouraging for a four star recruit who's been in the starting lineup and played a lot to have one catch all season. And although we didn't throw against Illinois, which is what all the Gio critics are saying "he completed five passes." We tried to throw against EMU and Nebraska. We threw 34 times against Washington, 29 times against Nebraska and 37 passes against EMU. We couldn't throw for more than 200 yards.
yeah, we did throw often against those teams, and yeah we didn't throw for many yards, a really low # actually. Some were saying "that's cause we have no one to throw to" or "no one is getting open" but I look more towards the QB. Who imo wasn't very good at finding open receivers, and even less so wide outs. Bolin does like his TE's though.
 

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We play a ridiculously conservative offense, with QB's who have trouble finding receivers, especially wide outs.
This is something I just don't understand. We see opponents come in and account for this problem by throwing to spots on timing patterns.

You line up.. QB sees the D is stacked against the run and your wideout has man coverage and you give him the nod and call the audible that means he should do that route to open space. QB does the play-action and looks off the safety then quickly throws the ball to that spot.. something he has practiced 1000 times.. meanwhile the wideout knows he has to shake his man and get to that spot in 4-5 seconds.

How many times have we seen this pass completed against us.. with pretty good man coverage? Why can't we throw this pass? Why can't we throw it enough to attract WR recruits?
 

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Why even bother "committing" when it means nothing.
They are using the commit as something to fall back on if other teams don't jump. Ironically their commit is what makes
other teams interested. For instance Maryland sees this guy committed to Rutgers, and says " let's take a look and tell him
Hey kid we are almost in your back yard, come take a look."
 

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This is something I just don't understand. We see opponents come in and account for this problem by throwing to spots on timing patterns.

You line up.. QB sees the D is stacked against the run and your wideout has man coverage and you give him the nod and call the audible that means he should do that route to open space. QB does the play-action and looks off the safety then quickly throws the ball to that spot.. something he has practiced 1000 times.. meanwhile the wideout knows he has to shake his man and get to that spot in 4-5 seconds.

How many times have we seen this pass completed against us.. with pretty good man coverage? Why can't we throw this pass? Why can't we throw it enough to attract WR recruits?
I'm with you. Yes it's beneficial when a WR can create seperation. But I see QB's throw balls for completions when the DB has excellent coverage fairly often.

The idea that the QB has a small role in the passing game(or a Peyton Manning wouldn't absolutely chew up EMU) is nuts.
 

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third Decommit of class and Raquain Oneal just got an offer from Gators and will be taking an offical visit there.Oneal and Anderson are in top three of RUs recruit class.
This staff is not at a B10 level in recruiting. RU sits ranked #13 in B10,#56 in Nation in recruit rankings.
You have to have the Jimmies and Joes to win.

After Anderson’s decomittment, has dropped Rutgers 2018 recruiting class to 13th in the Big Ten and 56th overall. Our of the 18 current commits, 17 are rated as 3-star prospects. Obviously, the coaching staff needs to finish strong in this cycle to ensure that another solid group of talent will join the program next year .



 

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third Decommit of class and Raquain Oneal just got an offer from Gators and will be taking an offical visit there.Oneal and Anderson are in top three of RUs recruit class.
This staff is not at a B10 level in recruiting. RU sits ranked #13 in B10,#56 in Nation in recruit rankings.
You have to have the Jimmies and Joes to win.
And Ash's recruiting has trended backward since getting here. He was able to flash his Championship ring during his first offseason, but once the games started, and the results were lousy, that ring lost it's luster.

Needs to finish this season strong , at least 2 wins, in order to reverse that trend.
 
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it's the way of the world, the food chain, etc... and the Parcells adage "you are what your record says you are". The better players will choose the better teams.
 
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it's the way of the world, the food chain, etc... and the Parcells adage "you are what your record says you are". The better players will choose the better teams.
And maybe more so in this case, a WR choosing a much more dynamic passing offense. As a team we had 6 receptions last weekend. We consistently throw for under 200 yrd's, we have 2 WR TD's so far on the season. We have a 4 star frosh WR who plays consistently but has 1 reception. Our QB of the future looks much more like a running QB then a passing one.

I don't blame Anderson at all for changing his mind.
 
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madchuck

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And maybe more so in this case, a WR choosing a much more dynamic passing offense. As a team we had 6 receptions last weekend. We consistently throw for under 200 yrd's, we have 2 WR TD's so far on the season. We have a 4 star frosh WR who plays consistently but has 1 reception. Our QB of the future looks much more like a running QB then a passing one.

I don't blame Anderson at all for changing his mind.

Lewis is going to have to be a Passing QB who can run if he needs to. Similar to Cardale Jones. I think a Gio is probably more mobile than him.
 

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I hear what you're saying 05 and that's always a factor but the overall W-L and expectation for team success (tv, bowls,etc.) is the key thing...

because the better players could just as easily commit to another school with the same favorable schemes at his position that is also a better team overall.

The top schools never lack top recruits at all positions regardless of their schemes.
 

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Lewis is going to have to be a Passing QB who can run if he needs to. Similar to Cardale Jones. I think a Gio is probably more mobile than him.
Hoping to see that day.

But I bet next year we see a slimmed down quicker Lewis. Parker may have as much to do with his development then Kill. (well maybe not that much, but you know what I mean:stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:).
 

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I hear what you're saying 05 and that's always a factor but the overall W-L and expectation for team success (tv, bowls,etc.) is the key thing...

because the better players could just as easily commit to another school with the same favorable schemes at his position that is also a better team overall.

The top schools never lack top recruits at all positions regardless of their schemes.

Without really looking, I assume the better WR's don't typically go to Wisconsin. Jonathon Taylor? That makes sense.
 

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And maybe more so in this case, a WR choosing a much more dynamic passing offense. As a team we had 6 receptions last weekend. We consistently throw for under 200 yrd's, we have 2 WR TD's so far on the season. We have a 4 star frosh WR who plays consistently but has 1 reception. Our QB of the future looks much more like a running QB then a passing one.

I don't blame Anderson at all for changing his mind.
Did Mr. Anderson consider we have QB Flacco on the roster and eligible to play next year?
Let me be the first: #FreeFlacco
 

Shelby65

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05-I agree scheme plays a factor, but isn't the #1 factor. The top WRs aren't flocking to Washington State and Texas Tech every year.

Out of curiosity I will look up Wisconsin.