Allen needs to think about his future.

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Cal will never give him a chance. He may even set him up to fail. Just leave. For himself. I would walk away. Cal will never play him. If he does. It will never be at the level Allen deserves. Sad. But true.

If Dontae Allen leaves we will never get another great Kentucky basketball player including Reed Sheppard and a few others....As long as Cal is here...
 
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sk73

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If Allen does transfer he really needs to look only at those teams with very good point guards. He , at this point, is a good to very good spot up shooter that cannot create his own shot. He needs that good guard to make him valuable to the team he selects.
 
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Let's be honest here. Allen missed two shots and ran away from the ball, the kid doesn't know how to free himself up for shots. Either he is too slow (I think so) or he has no confidence. When talented players come in his best option is to transfer because he will rarely see the floor imo.
 
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CatOfDaVille

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I see no reason why Mintz can’t run the pg and Allen in the 2 .
Mintz isn't a PG and has questionable handles as well, but I wouldn't mind seeing if this works since it can't get much worse.

However, at this point this season is a loss, so I'm actually on board with getting Askew as much experience as possible to close out the season to prepare for next year.
 

track42

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Mintz isn't a PG and has questionable handles as well, but I wouldn't mind seeing if this works since it can't get much worse.

However, at this point this season is a loss, so I'm actually on board with getting Askew as much experience as possible to close out the season to prepare for next year.
I hope Askew transfers.He's not a UK type point guard.
 

Wildcat86!

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Allen doesn’t deserve to play I don’t know what games y’all been watching but the guy doesn’t even fight to get open and on top of that he runs straight up and is slow as hell
 
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Allen is easy as hell to guard. He can’t get a shot off and he can’t create his own shoot. He isn’t strong enough nor have the motor to run off screens like a Murray, Herro , Monk or Quickley.

JOKE! Then you run a shooter off screens. He is a better shooter then anyone we have. A good coach, which we don't have, can figure out how to get a shooter open, double screens work very well. With your lack of knowledge about basketball, you probably don't know how to run a player off a double screen.

OLD STOLL FIELD GUY!
 

MNantz

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How to destroy a world class basketball program while making millions.

You want a copy?
Is it a extra ordinary bad year my lord yes ! Has the program been destroyed I don’t think so your just being silly now !
 

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If we're honest with ourselves (and believe me I'm frustrated with CAL), Allen can only do one thing well; ie. open 3 point shot.

Teams know this... he's easy as crap to guard -- just kind of glides around the floor.

Oh well, give me some heat if you must, but ...

Allen is gonna' take some more time to be more than just a 3 pt. shot
 
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willievic

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Let's be honest here. Allen missed two shots and ran away from the ball, the kid doesn't know how to free himself up for shots. Either he is too slow (I think so) or he has no confidence. When talented players come in his best option is to transfer because he will rarely see the floor imo.

I think your right, Cal has taken his confidence away from him. He had confidence in High School, but bad coaching can destroy that.

OLD STOLL FIELD GUY!
 
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Is it a extra ordinary bad year my lord yes ! Has the program been destroyed I don’t think so your just being silly now !
Lighten up Francis. Just a humorous response to another poster's questioning of me using the old saying " in my book" which is another way of saying in my opinion.

But, I do find it startling at the direction this program has turned under Cal.

Even the most exuberant optimist would have to admit the program is not in a good place right now and I'm not sure Cal can fix it since he no longer gets the top recruits.

Superior talent can overcome mediocre coaching.

Mediocre talent combined with mediocre coaching equals mediocre team with mediocre results.

We are 6 games below mediocre and trending down.
 

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Allen is easy as hell to guard. He can’t get a shot off and he can’t create his own shoot. He isn’t strong enough nor have the motor to run off screens like a Murray, Herro , Monk or Quickley.
So run an offense that isn’t one man running off a bunch of stationary screens. It isn’t brain surgery. It’s basketball.

90% of other D1 universities would be finding a way to run a pass first offense effectively to get your best shooter shots. You think Sam dekker was a super quick player off screens? It’s the same reason Wiltjer couldn’t get shots here his soph year and went to Gonzaga and thrived.
 

catswin

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JOKE! Then you run a shooter off screens. He is a better shooter then anyone we have. A good coach, which we don't have, can figure out how to get a shooter open, double screens work very well. With your lack of knowledge about basketball, you probably don't know how to run a player off a double screen.

Old guy, clean your glasses. Allen is easy AF to guard and does not have the strength or motor to get open. It’s very simple, now that teams know that Allen can shoot, they guard him and he can’t get open. If you watched the games you would see that they run things for him but he can’t lose his man.

OLD STOLL FIELD GUY!

Old guy, clean your glasses. Allen is easy AF to guard and does not have the strength nor the motor to get open. If you paid attention, or truly knew anything about basketball, you would see that they try to run Allen through the same screens that all the other big time athletic shooters we had. He just can’t create any space so he can’t get off shots.

If boggles my mind that someone who constantly acts like he has all the answers can’t see what really happens on the court. It must be that you left your glasses in the old football stadium.
 
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cal=8

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Cal will never give him a chance. He may even set him up to fail. Just leave. For himself. I would walk away. Cal will never play him. If he does. It will never be at the level Allen deserves. Sad. But true.
Allen doesn't have the toughness to play against a team like Missouri.. He was given at least two chances. He needs to get stronger. Hope he stays and becomes a Darius Miller type player for us..
 

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Sounds like Askew who is never benched.
This.

If you’re going to make an argument that a player’s poor performance warrants that he seldom see the court (which many in this board attempt to do), then Askew averaging more minutes than anyone, of late, defeats your argument.

Askew hurts this team more than any other player. Yet, Askew plays 30 mpg.

So please, you’re going to argue that Allen deserves only 7 minutes, do it rationally. It’s irrational to make an argument based on in-game performance, because of Askew.
 

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So run an offense that isn’t one man running off a bunch of stationary screens. It isn’t brain surgery. It’s basketball.

90% of other D1 universities would be finding a way to run a pass first offense effectively to get your best shooter shots. You think Sam dekker was a super quick player off screens? It’s the same reason Wiltjer couldn’t get shots here his soph year and went to Gonzaga and thrived.
Also see Duncan Robinson.
 
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bbanks81

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I see no reason why Mintz can’t run the pg and Allen in the 2 .
Dude have you watched Mintz run point this year? He is hands down 10x worse than Askew when actually running the offense. That’s not his strength, and all the blame this year should be on Cal for making a HS SR run the show for the winningest program of all time. Askew should be playing spot minutes and learning the game, but no he is our floor general b/c Cal didn’t have a backup plan
 
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Trinity45

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I really like Allen and think it's shameful that he didn't play in the 2nd half, but some of y'all are acting like he's Ray Allen. Dude can't dribble, plays mediocre D, and bricked his two 3s tonight.

At this point, he's a spot up shooter and nothing more. Again, he needs more PT because everybody sucks, but he's not all-SEC, let alone AA.
The whole team sucks and this team needed to score points, not saying Allen should start or play major minutes but there was no excuse not to play him some minutes in the second half. He shot 2 threes, how many shots has Boston been allowed to brick all season. Face it the guards on this team are not top D-1 material, period. So tell me what Askew brings to the table, for the minutes played tell me what Boston brings, he has a decent game one night and sucks the next but gets to play thru all his mistakes over and over and over.
 

ManitouDan_anon

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Would be more direct Karma to Coach Cal and his galaxy sized ego if Allen would quit and enter the transfer portal this weekend .. would be fine by me .. I wouldnt advise him to stay , no way in hell
 
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ManitouDan_anon

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You nothing about the game itself apparently. The problem is not Allen, it’s what the coach has done to Allen.


Yeah I see statements like that and think about our countries Sec of Education appearing before the senate yesterday describing why its perfectly OK for 6'2 men to compete in Track n Field or Wrestling with 5'4 inch girls .. and I think hmm what world am I living in . Guy says Allen is clueless .. you cant be that dumb . Or as my wife says " dont be dumb and stupid at the same time "
 

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I never said anybody said anything. I say they "act like", and they do.

Askew vs. Allen is a false equivalency as they don't play the same position. We have no one else to run the point...it's like the Harrow team part 2.

Look, Askew is not good right now, the team is no good, and Cal has done a **** job this year. No arguments from me on those points. I'm just tired of the endless Allen threads. He's as mediocre as everyone else at this point.
I agree about too many threads but I think many of us see that he has shown enough to invest in the future and is the type of guy that is not sticking around for certain reasons (most likely that they won't really get a chance).
 
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sluggercatfan

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Let's be honest here. Allen missed two shots and ran away from the ball, the kid doesn't know how to free himself up for shots. Either he is too slow (I think so) or he has no confidence. When talented players come in his best option is to transfer because he will rarely see the floor imo.
Let Cal get kicked out of a game, let Brusier coach and we'll see.
 
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Allen is no monk not even close
Look, there is no one, and I mean NO ONE on this site that has ever said that DA is MM. This is a false flag being thrown up by Cal Huggers who are attempting to deflect from the real discussion, and that is why does Cal refuse to allow DA the same amount of mistakes and give him enough playing time to actually see what he can do in an extended amount of time WITHOUT the coach screaming at him every time he doesn't shoot and then yanking him out when he does shoot if he misses the shot.

Also, tell me which player on this team DOES HAVE Malik Monk LEVEL TALENT, and deserves to continue to play through multiple mistakes, missed shots, taking bad shots, missing defensive assignments..........

Please tell me, because I haven't seen it. And THAT is the problem that a lot of the fans are having with the way Cal treats DA.

Cal wants to talk about equality and social justice. His system is the epitome of unfair treatment of players based on a solely subjective decision making process headed up by the chief dictator.