All on Cal....

Arrogant Blue

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Nov 15, 2011
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Yeah, some of you people are idiots..... Man up, take the loss, and go on with your lives. You know how this works. It's real easy to second guess after the fact.... Shot clock call and the flop go away, and Cals a genius. You need to quit blaming who got us here.
 

Blueworld_3.0

Heisman
Sep 23, 2008
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Originally posted by JFCats22:
@BDawsonRivals: Tyler Ulis says UK's 38-0 start means "nothing" after tonight. Said the whole season feels like "a waste."
Tyler is quickly becoming my favorite UK player in a long time. He basically just said what a lot of UK fans are feeling right now. Plus, I wish he had gotten more minutes in the 2nd half. Look forward to watching him play at least one more year.
 

OHIO COLONEL

Heisman
Feb 11, 2009
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Cal's a great coach, but I think he screwed this one up. And listening to his press conference I think he thinks so too. For all talk of attack, attack...we didn't at the end. I think sometimes this year he depended too much on our height advantage down low. Seems that last years UW game we drove the ball more (didn't have the size advantage). Or maybe Young was just super aggressive.

I wonder how long it will be before the comparisons of Cal and Dean Smith. Smith was roundly criticized for having an abundance of talent....getting to FFs...and not finishing the job. I hate to write that 'cause I hate in any way to compare something about UK to UNC.
 

anox3

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Oct 12, 2003
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Blueworld_3.0

Heisman
Sep 23, 2008
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Originally posted by Catman100:
Cal in postgame says they did not try to stall, but that players got tight.
Wow! I really hope he misunderstood the question. If not, he just threw his guys under the bus. He was obviously trying to stall on three straight possessions. Not good to hear.
 

kyjeff1

Heisman
Sep 8, 2012
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70,655
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It seems to me that Cal is strictly a defensive minded coach, our offense never seems to be in sync and it never seems to have a plan. Booker seems to never be involved in the offense, he gets shots off of broken plays. I know Cal doesn't like to rely on threes but everyone just packs it in on us because we aren't ever a real threat to knock down a bunch of threes. If Cal utilized his shooters he would see the paint open up but he continues to just force the ball into the paint. Well, that works against okay teams but against really good teams it doesn't work.
Notre dame and Wisconsin were less than average defensive teams but we couldn't even get to 70 against either team.
Look at our 2010 team, studs galore but our offense stunk and it cost us. Thank god we had Knight in 2011, he got us to a ff but again we stunk on offense in the final four.
 

LmdCat

Heisman
Jan 8, 2006
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18,894
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Originally posted by Blueworld_3.0:

Originally posted by Catman100:
Cal in postgame says they did not try to stall, but that players got tight.
Wow! I really hope he misunderstood the question. If not, he just threw his guys under the bus. He was obviously trying to stall on three straight possessions. Not good to hear.
He can say whatever he wants, but anyone watching the game with just a little knowledge of the game could clearly see we were playing clock. If we weren't, Cal would have used one of his timeouts to prevent the players from going into stall mod without his permission.
 

fla.cat

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May 23, 2002
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The fact is, you are struggling on offense. You get a four point lead with about three minutes left. You are bringing ball up court and you have 3 timeouts,and a media timeout to come.

CALL AFREAKING TIME OUT and SET UP Play WITH THREE OPTION.S. Remind your guards you are playing against guys 5 inches and 30 lbs less than you.....DRive the ball, and if not there, as I help comes, alley oop to Willie,, etc.

that was the game right there..I have no unearthly idea why Cal,who has on more than one occasion done this very thiimg before didn't excercize a timeout and install a plan or play.m with about three options. He did with Notre Dame and LSU.

I am perplexed to no end.
 

JMalone4UK

Heisman
Dec 2, 2001
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11,558
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I'm not sure which has cost teams more victories. Stall ball in basketball or the prevent defense in football. Both horrible strategies
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JMalone4UK

Heisman
Dec 2, 2001
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11,558
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Originally posted by ganner918:
I am rarely one to criticise coaching, but that was awful decision making by Cal to slow it down with 2 minutes left when we had been attacking and had the momentum.
If it was 2 minutes to go then that is about the correct time to start slowing it down and run the clock. The problem was there was about 5 minutes to go when we did it tonight.
 

Blueworld_3.0

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Sep 23, 2008
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Originally posted by jmalone7us:

I'm not sure which has cost teams more victories. Stall ball in basketball or the prevent defense in football. Both horrible strategies
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Good analogy. Agree completely.
 

83Cat_rivals79182

All-Conference
Mar 31, 2009
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Cal doesn't have these kids on strings like a puppet. Did they do exactly what he said? Did he say eat some clock and drive and make or get fouled? What if those shots had fallen? Would he still be the blame? We were up four and they were hitting threes. Had one of those last second shots fallen, we would have be fine. Both clunked. Not on Cal. On the shooter.
 

J. Shellacque

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Aug 30, 2009
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Great season, but this was a tough way to end it. The officiating was maybe a little one sided, but we had the game won until Cal decided to "hour glass" each possession .......WAY TOO EARLY.... and we didn't even get a shot off on 2 or 3 possesions after......around the 3 minute mark. But the players own blame as well. You can't be well beyond the top of the key before you start to set up a play with 5 seconds on the shot clock. This was a tough one to lose. A far superior team to lose to that team is tough. Wisconsin is a good team, but not really that good. On top of the really bad game strategy in the last few minutes, or the whole game for that matter, the substitution patterns the whole game were dreadful. There were players that got far more minutes than they should have in this game. I'm out of energy, deflated. This was far worse than dropping the ball in last year's finals.
 

JMalone4UK

Heisman
Dec 2, 2001
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Cal can make them do what he wants or he can sit them if they don't. Certainly looked like it was his call to eat the clock. If not after the first time they did it he should have called a timeout and made damn sure they didn't do it again and to dump it down to Towns or else come grab some bench.
 

JClarkyUK

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Mar 25, 2015
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I can't blame it all on Coach Cal like a lot of y'all are, mostly because the players have to make the plays when it counts, n i think the twins and willie came up short after they came back after losin to uconn last year. I can blame Cal a little bit on not getting it to KAT in the post like we did vs notre dame, it seems like he scores 95% of the time when he gets the ball down low, I'm disappointed how it seemed like the twins got us like 3 shot clock violations in a row with air balls, when to me, the ball has to go to our most efficient player Towns in that situation, I think Cal should have told the team that after the first shot clock, that and switching when our guards were geting beat with and-ones is his two major mistakes.

I remember in 2010 after losing to wvu I was lookin at posts on here and it just seemed like most people we're bagging on Cal and his coaching ability sayin if he couldn't win it with that talent he never will, but that 2010 team was very streaky shooting as well as on defense, compared to this team which I thought was much better mostly because their defense could win games for them when they weren't shooting well. I can't blame that loss on Cal then either bc like I said the players have to make the plays, and 2 nba all-stars in Wall n Cousins came up short as well as Bledsoe, Paterson, and Miller, who all are playing in the league right now, I mean hat was just terrible shooting n I cant blame the coach for telling them to keep shooting wide open 3s, I think they went like 0 for 20 until the final few minutes when weak @$$ Darnell Dodson finally hits one.(not trying to be mean but Dodson was supposed to come in and be a knock down long range shooter, but he wasn't good at all n I think Cal told him to transfer the next year 2011)

But I'm not gonna lie I am really disappointed n kinda depressed man, cuz I don't see us ever coming this close to 40-0 again, or any other college team coming that close either, I thought this team was special, but they will always go down as one of the best teams to come up short on a championship. You never know about Cal he may have a undefeated season up his sleeve but like before this season even started many were talking about goin 40-0, I mean I don't know another coach in the world that could have brought this program back to the mountain top as quickly as Calipari, I mean we're right there with a chance to win it all every year and you gotta give Cal a lot of credit for that!

And my last most important point is that the reason we lost is because of the refs! I normally don't blame refs after a loss, but to me it seemed like they did everything they could to keep us from winning! I think they were pitiful and the ncaa should be embarassed foreal. They gave that game to Wisconsin IMO, they would not call a foul on them for nothin, and that missed shot clock violation when it was in Nigel Hayes hand as the shot clock hit zero I could easily see it from my living room on the tv, how the refs miss that or atleast blow their whistle so they could check it is just crazy to me? Anybody watching that game could see Wisconsin didn't get that OFF! That lost the game IMO take away that basket and UK has the ball up 2 in the final few minutes, and Dekker probably doesn't hit that huge step back 3 on lyles to put them up 3, and even if he does hit it, that shot only puts them up one, and we win then I believe. It's a real shame to me this team won't be in the discussion for possibly the best team of all time, cuz I remind you nobody in the 3 point era has ever made the championship game undefeated, and this team and 91 UNLV are the only 2 to make the final four undefeated, the 3 pointer really made games a lot harder to win and revolutionized the sport, which is pretty obvious, to me atleast.

Yea this suuucckks, but makin the final four undefeated, only the 2nd team to do it since introducing the 3 point line is not too shabby! I mean it hurts bein so close but atleast we hang up another banner in Rupp. Go Big Blue!
 

Randy Bob

All-Conference
Jun 14, 2009
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I do not know how anyone can say something bad about coach Cal 38 and 1 come on..