Yep, Notre Dame refuses to join a conference so I guess they'll always get the big advantage of not having to play for a conference program.
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Yep, Notre Dame refuses to join a conference so I guess they'll always get the big advantage of not having to play for a conference program.
1. Alabama
2. Clemson
3. Notre Dame
4. Oklahoma.
Unfortunately, the NCAA is still hasn’t quite figured it out. Even if we were in the BCS, #1 and #2 would be pretty easy to determine this year. When you try to determine 2 additional teams that are “worthy” by a group of subjective people, we will be left with what we have this year and what we ended up last year. No one wants to see 2 SEC teams in a 4 team playoff, or any 2 teams from the same conference. What are conference championships really for? And teams like Notre Dame may have an advantage due to one less game.
The NCAA needs a clear cut, black and white set of rules to determine who gets into the playoffs. None of this BS “selection committee” that have there heads so far up their ***. No more “woulda, coulda, shoulda” ****. Make it an 8 team playoff, 5 conference champions are in, plus 3 at large bids. Seeding is based upon highest ranking at the end of the year.
Think about it, an 8 team playoff would look like this:
1) Alabama vs 8) Washington
2) Clemson vs 7) Georgia
3) Notre Dame vs 6) Ohio St
4) Oklahoma vs 5) UCF
Now that would be one hell of a playoff. Enough of this ******** we have now. Can you believe they are going to have a 4 hour selection show this week to figure out the mess they have now. Cmon man, we are making this way more complicated than it needs to be
2. Clemson
3. Notre Dame
4. Oklahoma.
Unfortunately, the NCAA is still hasn’t quite figured it out. Even if we were in the BCS, #1 and #2 would be pretty easy to determine this year. When you try to determine 2 additional teams that are “worthy” by a group of subjective people, we will be left with what we have this year and what we ended up last year. No one wants to see 2 SEC teams in a 4 team playoff, or any 2 teams from the same conference. What are conference championships really for? And teams like Notre Dame may have an advantage due to one less game.
The NCAA needs a clear cut, black and white set of rules to determine who gets into the playoffs. None of this BS “selection committee” that have there heads so far up their ***. No more “woulda, coulda, shoulda” ****. Make it an 8 team playoff, 5 conference champions are in, plus 3 at large bids. Seeding is based upon highest ranking at the end of the year.
Think about it, an 8 team playoff would look like this:
1) Alabama vs 8) Washington
2) Clemson vs 7) Georgia
3) Notre Dame vs 6) Ohio St
4) Oklahoma vs 5) UCF
Now that would be one hell of a playoff. Enough of this ******** we have now. Can you believe they are going to have a 4 hour selection show this week to figure out the mess they have now. Cmon man, we are making this way more complicated than it needs to be
I'm confused as to why ND gets in any more than UCF. The win over Michigan doesn't look all that impressive after the beatdown by Ohio St. They survived against a mediocre USC, Pitt, etc. Right now I'm inclined to have 1) Alabama 2) Clemson 3) Georgia 4) Oklahoma.
Would you be mad if Nebraska went undefeated and missed the playoff with that schedule? At least they played P5 teams, not their fault that those teams were below average this year. But it just proves that 4 teams isn’t enough to crown a champion on the field.
When he's hurt he makes a lot of mistakes. When he's healthy, he doesn't make many mistakes at all. Either way he's the best qb in the country.
Georgia is the better team, they should get in. It should be the 4 best teams. Georgia shouldn't get knocked out because they lost to the #1 team by a touchdown if they are still one of the best teams.
BS, they had their shot yesterday and lost.. let’s give the loser of the SEC CCG a second chance crap needs to end why did they bother playing the game in the first place then..
Further more I’m not sure Georgia is better than tOSU and OU is better than LSU who beat Georgia by 20..
Agree. And while we’re at it, I don’t think it’s fair for Georgia to have to play Bama again right away. I say we move Georgia up to #2 or #3. That only seems fair as well.
Or an even better idea is to have Clemson and Notre Dame play a meaningless bowl game for the #3 final ranking, forgoing the playoff. Just put Bama and Georgia against each other in the championship game. Georgia deserves it with only 2 losses on their record, one of which came against Bama.
Or finally, we could say, Georgia had their shot yesterday and blew it. Now it’s time for another team to have their shot. A team that was a 1 loss conference champion. You know, that sounds like the best option to me.
You realize the NCAA has nothing to do with the CFP right? This is not a NCAA sponsored national tournament. The school presidents, ADs and conference commissioners plus ESPN own this thing. They can change it whenever they want. They just have to re-negotiate the deal.
Having the each conference champion in an 8 team playoff doesn’t guarantee that the best 8 teams are playing? So your proposal will do nothing to quash a team, like Michigan or LSU, who are both better than Washington and probably better than UCF, for sure better, without Milton from feeling they were more “worthy” than those 2 schools. It also doesn’t eliminate a selection committee because Someone has to determine who the 3 at large teams are. If you use a coaches poll or the AP poll you still have an element that can influence the results with their own biases.
Do people who use the "eye test" to pick the teams not realize that in the 4 years the playoffs have existed the team the "eye test" says is the best (ie the #1 seed) has ZERO championships?
The "eye test" sucks.
BTW, using that eye test and a national comittee- 1995 Nebraska would have likely been a 2 seed.
The "eye test" sucks.
BTW, using that eye test and a national comittee- 1995 Nebraska would have likely been a 2 seed.
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Exactly right. You don't REWARD a team with a playoff spot for idiotically giving the game away like they did. They would - if selected - be slotted in the 4th spot forcing Alabama to beat them two games in a row. Total BS. Don't reward them for stupidity.
Dont try and move the goal posts. It has been said a million times that the idea of the playoffs is to get the 4 best teams period, not make certain conferences feel good about themselves by getting a team in.
Makes total sense, but we have to hear what the "commitee" has to say and if that group of folks is anything like the group of folks refereeing, well, you know........................
So Georgia lost 2 games, one to Alabama and one to LSU. Michigan lost 2 games, one to ND and one to tOSU, both lost the last game of the season. But Michigan’s loss eliminated them, while Georgia’s didn’t?
I know Georgia didn’t beat Alabama. Can OU or tOSU? I don’t know, doubt it, but it is still unknown. What did Georgia do to deserve another chance to beat Alabama?
Sure which flawed 1 loss conference champ do you want? The one that was a missed 2 point conversion away from a 2nd loss?....oh wait that is both OSU and OU....neither of those two will sniff a 7 point loss to Bama and would get destroyed.
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Its pretty clear there are only two teams that can stay on the field with Bama this year, Clemson and Georgia, Georgia just proved their case. The arguement should be over the 4th team and it's irrelevant because whoever they are will get boat raced.
Great, so we can see OSU get boat raced...OSU played one great game this year and looked like hot garbage compared to Bama, UGA and Clemson for most of the year...
BS on no one wants to see two SEC teams in?...I am a huge Husker fan and would love to see the B10 as the dominate conference but as a CFB fan the SEC does play the best football
If you are going to automatically put the P5 conference champs in, there needs to be a different way to determine who the champs are instead of the current system. Under the current system you could have had a 9-4 Northwestern or a 8-5 Pittsburgh be conference champ....Should they really be in the playoff?
Yes. Why should a team that can't beat an 8-4 team on a neutral field still make the playoff?
I'd prefer a 6-team playoff where the Top 5 ranked conference champs get automatic bids, and have one wild card team. Top 2 conference champs get byes to the semifinal.
I hear you, and yes Georgia is most likely better than both OU and OSU. There are 4 undefeated teams, 3 of them rightfully represented in the playoff. The 4th undefeated team, especially without MM, doesn’t fit. So who should get the 4th spot? A 2 loss team that just lost to Bama, or a 1 loss team that won their conference but never played Bama?
And if you want to go with a 2 point conversion away from a second loss, then Nebraska didn’t deserve the 97 NC because we were a kicked ball away from a loss.
I look at it as though Georgia had their chance at a championship. It goes through Bama. If they beat Bama, they’re in. They lost. Give someone else a chance.
Georgia just got eliminated, rightfully so.
Alabama should not have to ever play them again.
They had a shot, lost. And lost by 20 to LSU.
Unless the regular season doesnt matter....
Alabama should not have to ever play them again.
They had a shot, lost. And lost by 20 to LSU.
Unless the regular season doesnt matter....
UGA proved they could go toe to toe with Bama, there is only one other team that might be able to do that which is Clemson...why give someone a chance that doesn't stand one?
Agree with your post.
And you just proved there are not 4 deserving teams this year that deserve a shot.
And people want to go to 8!!
It’s clear that Ohio St is better than Purdue, but on the day the game was played, Purdue was the better team. **** happens. Georgia gave up 21 unanswered points when the game was on the line.
Because you don’t know if no one stands a chance. No one thought The Citadel would give Bama a game up to halftime. It’s time to sort things out on the field and last night it was sorted out, we didn’t need the ‘eye test’ to tell us who is worthy.
Should we keep giving the same team multiple opportunities to beat the #1 team because they can go “toe to toe” with them instead of someone else? If the SEC is better than everyone else than the playoff might as well be Alabama, Georgia, LSU and Florida. F everyone else right, no way they can compete with the mighty SEC.
Both your point and their point are wrong, and further proof that the playoff doesnt work and adding more teams to it will not solve anything.
The bcs was not good.
Ive posted my system in another thread. It takes what made college football so great in the first place and improves upon it with slight changes. It does not include a playoff. I also mentioned in said post that my proposed system has flaws and is not perfect, because it is literally impossible to have a perfect system in cfb.
My main goal is to preserve the integrity of the regular season and the conference championship. The regular season needs to be as much of the playoff as possible.