yes ... my post was in response to the post claiming that it took Osborne/Devaney 8-10 years to get an elite team it did not ... there is some disagreement as to what constitutes elite, for my purposes it is a top 10 team or better
yes I realize that TO took over a powerhouse ... I objected to the notion that he didn't have elite teams until 8-10 years in ... my response was poorly worded and did not adequately convey this
It should not take 8-10 to get a top 10 team as suggested ... I would be interested in examples where, if a program has the right coach, it took that long to achieve this ... Frank Beamer comes to mind but the list is very very short
an interim realistic goal is to progress toward winning the west division ... there are no heavy weights like OSU, etc that should make this insurmountable. We were further from this goal in 2019 than 2018.
Yes, fair enough sir & well said. Sure, I understand where you're coming from. I agree standing in the top 10 would be my tag of being elite. I also agree it shouldn't take 8 to 10 years to rebound. Possibly about half of that in a worst case scenario (which arguably could be our situation).
However, 2020 might very well be moving the direction we all want. Returning the whole OLine should help a lot. And while it's just a guess I would think our Special teams couldn't possibly be as inept as this year. Relaxing on the endless horizontal passes might help too.
Lastly, I agree there's no superman in the west division. Not many snowflakes either but they can get beat.
The very, very best to HCSF and....."us"! :Cool: