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If all goes according to plan, in 4-5 years I see Nebraska as being a very good team. If that happens and they can keep building teams with solid playmakers, have a resume of quality wins, in 8-10 years we could be at an Elite level.
I know Ten years seems very far away, it is probably in line with the amount of time Devaney and Osborne took to get Elite teams (1970, 1971, 1983, 1994, 1995, 1997)
I hope so, but am not overly optimistic. I'm sure they said the same thing about Baylor and Minnesota a couple of years ago. Next year is year three so......I am still not optimistic. Yet hopeful? If it goes according to plan, we will be in the Big Ten championship game next year. It seems like a pipe dream from what I have seen so far. If not, three or four years from now is still a hell of a buyout.
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A potential problem I see is that we have had issues retaining people in this decade, in particular the past 5 years. When you look at the top boys like LSU, Clemson, Ohio State, they are 3-4 deep at every position. It’s very difficult for us to keep quality guys. For example, Miles Jones could have been a nice player for us 2-3 years down the road. He sees that he’s not going to get many touches now so he bolts. Nobody wants to ride the bench on a crappy team. That’s a serious problem and barrier I see that will hinder us from ever being elite. We can get to a level of Wisconsin, where our starters are at a high level but then when injuries happen the talent and experience drops off considerably.
Mo Barry...is that you talking? B1G championship next year? After 2 years of this staff, we rank in the 70’s to 80’s out of 120+ teams. I know this is the BS we will have to endure once again all off-season, but let’s at least wait until the new year. The stench of this season is still much too fresh.
For starters, the coaching staffs as a whole, on both teams are far superior to us.
If we make to the B1G Championship game next year that would be a huge leap for us. I seriously doubt that will happen given our schedule next year. It’s brutal!
Just making it to a bowl game is what I hope for.
I think I have the same concerns as you do here. With the way the transfer portal is set up, it makes it way too easy to transfer out, and like you said no one wants to ride the pine for a losing team.. my hope is that when this thing turns around and we get back on track we will be able to convince these kids to ride it out until they get their turn. Winning cures everything in football, so I hope that the transfer issues and turn over is included in the cure as well
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After watching this board... a lot of you are becoming morons and I use the term "becoming" rather loosely. Or am I the only person that remembers Nebraska outplaying Wisconsin much of the game this year? Go check the stats and get back to me. We're not that far off. Special teams effed us in that game.
Devaney and Osborne’s teams finished in the top 10 in at least one of the 2 major polls 28 of their combined 36 years. It didn’t take them 8-10 years to build elite teams.
'NU is not close to competing with OSU, LSU, Clemson' is the kind of hard-hitting analysis I come to this website for.
And Illinois beat Wisconsin. One game isn't the point. The point is we are a long ways from being a consistent winner like Wisconsin. They have played in 18 straight bowl games, most of them on New Year's Day. They've won the West Division 4 out of 6 years. We are a long ways from being able to win even 9-10 games a year consistently.
Groundbreaking insight. I would be lost without all the keyboard coaches analysis on this board.RollingLaugh
I checked the scoreboard. We lost by more than 2 touchdowns at home. After the 5 min mark of the 2nd quarter we were never within one score of Wisconsin.
“Check the stats” is really lame when you lose by double digits.
I don’t know how this Wisconsin narrative keeps popping up as representing progress. We lost by almost exactly the same margin despite being at home with a returning starter at QB versus Wisc 1st year starter. We finished 5th in the division in 2018 and 6th in 2019.
All of us want and are expecting improvement in year 3. We don’t have to manufacture make believe narratives about progress from 2018 to 2019 to feel all warm and cozy at night.
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If you are hoping to be OSU in the next 10 years you will be disappointed. If you hope to be wisconsin in the next 10 years there is a chance...we will likely, if lucky, become the huskers of 2011-2014...decent...even good at times and playing in a bowl every year. We won't have a coach that abuses fans, refs, and the media and so 9 wins a year might seem acceptable.
I didn't know Osborne inherited a team that had been 19-19 in the previous 3 seasons.
Okay, don't check the stats. We played with Wisconsin just fine, our lack of a kicker and their first round rb were the difference. I don't need to manufacture any narrative and I'm cozy as hell at night. You have a loser mentality. I agree with you though, we will improve in year 3.
Your post got me curious, so I decided to look up AP poll finishes for Nebraska from Bill Jennings to present...
AP Poll
1936-1961: 20 teams
1962-1967: 10 teams
1968-1988: 20 teams
1989-present: 25 teams
BILL JENNINGS
1957 (1-9): UR
1958 (3-7): UR
1959 (4-6): UR
1960 (4-6): UR
1961 (3-6-1): UR
BOB DEVANEY
1962 (9-2): UR
1963 (10-1): 6
1964 (9-1): 6
1965 (10-1): 5
1966 (9-2): 6
1967 (6-4): UR
1968 (6-4): UR
1969 (9-2): 11
1970 (11-0-1): 1
1971 (13-0): 1
1972 (9-2-1): 4
TOM OSBORNE
1973 (9-2-1): 7
1974 (9-3): 8
1975 (10-2): 9
1976 (9-3-1): 9
1977 (9-3): 12
1978 (9-3): 8
1979 (10-2): 9
1980 (10-2): 7
1981 (9-3): 11
1982 (12-1): 3
1983 (12-1): 2
1984 (10-2): 4
1985 (9-3): 11
1986 (10-2): 5
1987 (10-2): 6
1988 (11-2): 10
1989 (10-2): 11
1990 (9-3): 24
1991 (9-2-1): 15
1992 (9-3): 14
1993 (11-1): 3
1994 (13-0): 1
1995 (12-0): 1
1996 (11-2): 6
1997 (13-0): 2
FRANK SOLICH
1998 (9-4): 19
1999 (12-1): 3
2000 (10-2): 8
2001 (11-2): 8
2002 (7-7): UR
2003 (9-3*): 19
* Completed by Bo Pelini
BILL CALLAHAN
2004 (5-6): UR
2005 (8-4): 24
2006 (9-5): UR
2007 (5-7): UR
BO PELINI
2008 (9-4): UR
2009 (10-4): 14
2010 (10-4): 20
2011 (9-4): 24
2012 (10-4): 25
2013 (9-4): UR
2014 (9-4**): 25
** Completed by Barney Cotton
MIKE RILEY
2015 (6-7): UR
2016 (9-4): UR
2017 (4-8): UR
SCOTT FROST
2018 (4-8): UR
2019 (5-7): UR
4 losing seasons in 5 years.Sick
I feel like Micheal Fox only Back to the Past in the Jennings years.
Now the Coaches Poll finishes in the Devaney/Osborne years when we didn't finish in the AP Top 10 (11 times)...
1962 (9-2): UR
1967 (6-4): UR
1968 (6-4): UR
1969 (9-2): 12
1977 (9-3): 10
1981 (9-3): 9
1985 (9-3): 10
1989 (10-2): 12
1990 (9-3): T17
1991 (9-2-1): 16
1992 (9-3): 14
Your math checks out, @jlb321
We are not a good team. Our coaching is below average. I will be difficult to recruit elite players to Nebraska with this coaching staff after the last 2 years. It will take a huge improvement in talent on both sides of the ball to compete in any championships in the next 5 years. Those teams that played yesterday are light years a head of Nebraska Football. We can get better, but I believe Coach Scott Frost has to make some coaching changes especially on defense. Hiring a qualified OC would also be an improvement. Also hiring a new DC that knows what he is doing would be another improvement.
i don't think we're that far away either. We do extremely poorly in high leverage situations. Is that coaching? Lack of talent? Lack of confidence? Hard to say.
It your talking Clemson, LSU and Ohio state I agree but I dont see teams like Wisconsin. Utah, Baylor being that that far ahead of Nebraska.
Coaching impacts the talent and confidence. Lack of personal accountability from the HC is a bigger deal than most realize. Praise in public, critique in private is a basic leadership trait he missed somewhere in his upbringing
We are already competing to the wire with teams like Iowa, Purdue, NW, Illinois, Indiana. IF we can improve at all, we should have little issue beating them most years. MN Im still not convinced they are not just a flash in the pan team this year. I will need to see another 2 or 3 years of a successful MN team to say they will be able to compete at Wisc level.
Wisc, we are a bit off from, but not as far as some think. Im not worried about the West, I think we will get there. The issue not for just us but for all of the West is how dominant Ohio St is. I don't see any team in the West being able to consistently beat them. I do think we have the best shot to give them a run in the future, just do to the fact we can out recruit other West teams most years. Not saying we will, just that we probably have the best chance.
I think we will be much better on offense going into next year and beyond. And we better be. My biggest concern is that we are not now, nor have we in the past two years, recruiting true difference makers on defense, especially on the defensive line. We will not improve much going forward until that changes. We could actually be worse on defense next year since we have zero proven defensive lineman. Stille returns, but so what? He isn’t anything special.