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Hope this thread finds everyone in a chipper mood. I wanted to take a second and write after my comments today about this Board on my radio show. I have always had a terrific love/hate relationship with this message board forum, going back to when it was originally Kentucky Sports Report before the merger (what year was that?). There is zero doubt that without this board and my "Magloire52" days, I would still be a lawyer and having a miserable time with my existence. The message board communities, especially of the old days, were the centerpiece of my UK Fandom and were the original basis for everything UK sports related on the Internet. Those days, ranging from the big online recruitments (Darius Rice anyone?) to the message board feuds were some of my favorite times in the UK online world and I do miss them...which is probably why I still post here from time to time.

Today I said on the radio a few things that I do believe...some positive and some negative. I said this is undoubtedly the biggest UK message board community on the internet. There was a time when there were many such places but that time has passed and honestly this is the last relevant one that exists. I often say that there are really only three sources of relevant UK information...KSR, Cats Illustrated and Twitter. The mainstream media sources can all be found via Twitter and if you read those three places, you know all there is to know. With that said, I do think message boards such as this on average draw an older crowd. While there are some younger people here, an entire generation has grown up having their UK discussions on Twitter and other social media. Some still find their way here, but most of the posters on here (I bet) are 35-40 and over. There are undoubtedly lurkers of all ages, and those that get news from here, but posting on message boards is what most of us do when we are bored at work (as I am now). This is the largest message board community of UK and its not close. But as those of around in the old days can say, message boards as a whole aren't what they once were in terms of traffic. More options now exist, from blogs to social media, that didn't before. The fact that this place has as many people as it does (when message boards of ALL Schools have seen significant drops) is a testament to its success.

My complaint today about "old idiots" on this message board was aimed at a small, but loud segment of folks here...the ones that bash me every single time my name is mentioned. They of course have a right to their opinion but I am constantly amused by the "I DONT LISTEN TO HIM but he is an idiot, blah, blah blah" threads that follow ever time my Beetlejuice is said in the crowd. It is usually followed by how I am liberal (somewhat true, although less than you think), single (true but happily), gay (not true), arrogant (true of most people who believe anyone would care about their opinion about anything), a jerk (hopefully not true, but I do get riled up from time to time) or a dork (undoubtedly true). Those folks bash me all the time but then get royally offended if I say anything about them, usually becoming quite angry in response. I do think those folks are often (or always) "old idiots" who care less about debating a particular point, rather than blasting me personally. Their act amuses me greatly and I have no problem mocking them in return. I only wish that when, as happened today, they begin their outrage, they would at least quote me correctly and in context.

But the VAST majority of the folks on here seem like good people. I read this site almost every day and pick up something from it every time. People like to accuse me or KSR of "stealing information" but that is honestly silly. We all hear the same information and whether people say it or not, we all have sources even if we don't share them. What I do use this forum for is to get a pulse of the fan base....specifically the hardcore, long-time fans who are engaged significantly in the details of the programs and who lean towards the negative side. I think that is a fair description of most (but not all) of the posters here. I use Twitter for the 20-35 year old fan, Snapchat for the 25 and under, Facebook for the 40 and over, my radio show for the broad fan base, the TV show for the Lexington/Lou fan, etc. I have been a part of doing demographic studies of every form of UK media (it was a big investment a couple years back and the resulting numbers have helped fuel how I approach all of my work) and they follow patterns that are fascinating. Each represents a slice of the overall pie. This board is the best to figure out what the hardcore group intimately engaged in every story is thinking. And I use it as such.

Long story short, this is the best place to find out what a segment of the fan base is thinking. That is crucial for my job...I enjoy reading this site and think the folks that run it (Rowland, TJ, etc) do a really good job. The anger and hatred of a few (along with my schedule) make me post less than I used to, but it is part of my daily preparation routine. The fact that there exists a small group of "old idiots" who believe I am the epitome of all thats wrong with the world amuses me, but won't stop my visits.
You are a thieving deuche bag. Your better than thou attitude is terrible. Your lifeline is falling away as you alienate your largest possible base. You obviously suck at law and personal skills (typical of attorneys), and will lose this income stream. Look to other areas. Btw, why such an elitist deuche? You are what? Oh, an attorney, oh, someone who pilfers info from others( in attorney language, the term is a thief), you're a suck *** who schmoozed someone( attorney speak: you kissed major *** or you greased some wheels). Most perceive you as false, degrading, a liar, and a thief of information; not a good building platform.
I will never give your site a hit or $.02. Start chasing ambulances, as you do uk coaches(sniff, sniff, is she in heat). No way around it, you are an information thief and an elitist snob.
 

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You are a thieving deuche bag. Your better than thou attitude is terrible. Your lifeline is falling away as you alienate your largest possible base. You obviously suck at law and personal skills (typical of attorneys), and will lose this income stream. Look to other areas. Btw, why such an elitist deuche? You are what? Oh, an attorney, oh, someone who pilfers info from others( in attorney language, the term is a thief), you're a suck *** who schmoozed someone( attorney speak: you kissed major *** or you greased some wheels). Most perceive you as false, degrading, a liar, and a thief of information; not a good building platform.
I will never give your site a hit or $.02. Start chasing ambulances, as you do uk coaches(sniff, sniff, is she in heat). No way around it, you are an information thief and an elitist snob.

Wishy washy....
 

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You are a thieving deuche bag. Your better than thou attitude is terrible. Your lifeline is falling away as you alienate your largest possible base. You obviously suck at law and personal skills (typical of attorneys), and will lose this income stream. Look to other areas. Btw, why such an elitist deuche? You are what? Oh, an attorney, oh, someone who pilfers info from others( in attorney language, the term is a thief), you're a suck *** who schmoozed someone( attorney speak: you kissed major *** or you greased some wheels). Most perceive you as false, degrading, a liar, and a thief of information; not a good building platform.
I will never give your site a hit or $.02. Start chasing ambulances, as you do uk coaches(sniff, sniff, is she in heat). No way around it, you are an information thief and an elitist snob.

Sooooo, exactly what is it that you are trying to say?
 

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@MattJonesKSR youband I work in the same business so I have respect for you and I feel you do a good job cause I know how tough it is. That said illl probably lose a few rafter friends for that comment but I give you props for coming on here and owning what you apparently said. My one question is what it like talking to ulismyman on the phone? Is terry a good caller?
 

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This is part of it. Matt says he thinks the criticism is funny but it clearly bothers him or he wouldn't respond. Nobody likes to be criticized or disliked. Think Matt does blow off the goofey ones who are clearly over the top with their dislike but the other general feeling out there that he rubs a lot of people the wrong way does bother him like it would anybody and that's part of why he tunes in and reacts.

But Matt could go a long way in improving that by just not being so know it all in his approach. He is very smart and intuitive and is right in his perception of a lot of things, and not so much on some others, but what a lot of smart people like him fail to realize is people don't always care about how much you know and whether you're right all the time as much as they do how you treat people and how you come off. Modesty goes a long way especially in this state. I think deep down Matt is a good guy and real fan and like he said is more conservative on some things that you think, but just has that "I can't stand when someone seems ignorant or wrong about something and have to correct them now" impulse that gets him in trouble. That's okay when people you are dealing with are truly ignorant and obnoxious about it and need set straight. But not everybody is calling or writing to make a legal point and don't use precise language and aren't even trying to debate all the details of an issue. They are just trying to make a general point or share their thoughts. Most people understand that and take them for what they are, just a well intentioned person trying to chime in as imperfect as they may go about it. Matt has an impulse to want to correct everything anybody says and make sure he's set the ignorant straight and that just gets old.

The irony is you would think Matt would know this too! I think he actually does and just cant help himself and believes he wishes he were a little more patient or understanding of his audience, but its his impulse and something he has to fight. I think he want's to be more liked overall and that will have to be corrected to accomplish that.

Just my two cents worth.

How much of that, and the schtick with Ryan, is all for show though? As others have already said, he's admitted to admiring others in radio that have made it big by being confrontational and creating an emotional reaction, regardless of whether its good or bad.

The way they all love wrestling, with its scripts and manufactured dramas, you know they are all quite aware of how they talk to each other and each 'character' that calls in.
 

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Matt, I honestly have never heard your show nor visited your website. I also agree that even though I Was just having fun in the other thread whenI said I took your lunch money that was a smart *** and inappropriate comment and I apologize for it. I do still feel that your OP and subsequent messages were condescending, arrogant and insulting to a portion of this board. There are many positive and knowledgeable fans plus a few irrational fans and fly by trollers. We actively post here, engage in discussion, sometimes heated and passionate, but at the end of the day most of us realize we are diehard fans of U.K. And bleed blue.

You publically judge us but do not hesitate to use information from this site. You apparently don't consider yourself a member but feel you know us enough to us childish term like "old idiots" to describe "most" of us.

If you think you are any better a person than those "old idiots" then take a goo d look in the mirror because the past couple of days you have not come across any less idiotic accept for the fact you are slightly bettered versed. Your show is your private kingdom....stay there.

I think its incredibly ironic that you have been so vocal about publicly judging comments you didn't hear first hand and have spent so much time discussing a show's content that you clearly have no knowledge of by your own admission above.
 

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If it's a small group here why say "most" on the radio?
Because attention and controversy are good for his business investment in his own website. It's the oldest motivation in the marketplace. That's not a foul. Businessmen do it every day. But I would be careful about casting oneself as the judge of what is relevant/irrelevant, or negative/positive. If you aren't going to be an attorney anymore, then don't spin and pontificate like an attorney.
 
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I think its incredibly ironic that you have been so vocal about publicly judging comments you didn't hear first hand and have spent so much time discussing a show's content that you clearly have no knowledge of by your own admission above.
Well we all need a little irony in our lives and what he said was public knowledge.
 

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Well we all need a little irony in our lives and what he said was public knowledge.

The interpretation, or misinterpretation, of what he said is. I would listen to the words myself and ensure I was working from the foundation of truthful facts before taking such a firm stance.

But that's just me.
 
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The interpretation, or misinterpretation, of what he said is. I would listen to the words myself and ensure I was working from the foundation of truthful facts before taking such a firm stance.

But that's just me.
Thanks for the advice.
 
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The interpretation, or misinterpretation, of what he said is. I would listen to the words myself and ensure I was working from the foundation of truthful facts before taking such a firm stance.

But that's just me.

Remember with Matt and KSR that "Facts are optional". That always gives him an out on anything they say.:D

So I never understand why so many people get upset with what he says. He's not that important.[jumpingsmile]
 

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It's amazing how posters in this thread, and even Matt himself, can't understand how someone could A). Have no problem with someone having an opposing political view, but at the same time B). Not want to read about it or hear about it. What's so hard to understand about that? Why does that automatically mean that I, or anyone else who feels that way, simply can't handle an opposing viewpoint? Nothing could be further from the truth.

When I made that proclamation the immediate response of Matt and others was "oh so you can't handle someone not thinking the same way that you do"? Amazing. Not even close. But such is the usual rebuttal. Has absolutely nothing to do with it. I don't go to KSR for politics. I have several other avenues to get information and, yes, hear opposing views. That's not why I go to KSR. If Matt and Tyler want to keep pushing their beliefs they have every right to do so. That's perfectly fine. But I have the right to choose to not listen or read and it doesn't in any way, shape, or form, make me unable to consider an opposing view. It just means that I don't frequent KSR for that type of discussion.

I've never heard Calipari push his political views in any interview or blog post etc. Why? I mean according to Matt we should all just listen to others opinions and deal with it. So why doesn't Calipari make his views and opinions open? What about Stoops? Because they know that the entirety of their fan base may not agree, and it's best to just stay away from those subjects.

When you put your opinions on politics out there you indirectly call anyone who doesn't believe the same way wrong. Well who the hell are you? Who are you to tell me what is right or wrong or the best policy?

Tyler Thompson's post the morning after the election of the singing of the national anthem with the quote of "for anyone who needs cheering up this morning" was putting her politics into the site. She absolutely has every right to do so. But I didn't need cheering up. Was I supposed to need cheering up? Why?

Again, me not wanting to hear your leftist opinions on your show or site has nothing to do with my ability or willingness to consider an opposing viewpoint. Stop making it out like it does. You don't have to "stick to sports". We get it. It helps ratings to cover "other material". But you can't be offended if people tune you out because you and other writers inject their political opinions. It's the price you pay.

Again, look what happened to ESPN (I know I know there's more to it).

https://www.google.com/amp/www.medi...says-espns-politics-are-hurting-business/amp/
 
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It may well be a loud obnoxious segment, but I know nowhere else - nowhere in real life, call in shows, twitter, reddit, anywhere I've looked - do I see the same toxic negativity as there is prominently displayed on this board. I've been a member for at least 14-15 years, and it's really not as fun here as it used to be because of it.
No kidding. We have threads bashing the coach and the players after a WIN, let alone after a loss.
 
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Maybe this board is targeted by more trolls than ever due to the success of our program. There's no one to troll on theirs. These are good times, so I don't trust negative posters in general. I'm only a fan, and not a very experienced poster, but I'd rather blame trolls than our fan base for the devisive narrative that seems to have taken over here. Who better to troll than those impassioned/hated UK fans who are open for business all year?
 

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I'm on day 4 of a nasty stomach bug. Can someone summarize without a ridiculous / glorious take on Matt Jones? If not I'll just go back to the elementary school grade diahrea.
 

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I'm on day 4 of a nasty stomach bug. Can someone summarize without a ridiculous / glorious take on Matt Jones? If not I'll just go back to the elementary school grade diahrea.
Short take... Matt evidently made a comment that generalized this board as being old idiots. Probably not what he meant exactly but probably should not have said the way he did. So began the Matt haters and detractors attacking all things Matt and KSR. Thus defended by the Matt/KSR supporters. Claims were made. Insults traded. Hypocrisy aplenty on both sides. Political naysayers. Defenders of the realm.... Attacks and counter attacks. More insults and misunderstandings. Hurt feelings. Agenda driven comments against Matt's evidently political agenda for his show. A lot of He said/She said. No one listening to each other but sure to make their own point right or wrong.

In short the typical thread involving anything about Matt Jones.
 

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You said it. Your true feelings come out. Not buying your "apology" as sincere. You were just trying to appease listeners. You take full advantage of UK fans thirst for anything UK. Then bash them like you did the other day if some dare not agree with you.
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Cawood86, that's just being a typical leftist .... If you don't like someone's opinion, start name calling. Call them "old idiots" (although I'd suspect that most of them are not old). Most lefties don't tolerate opinions they don't agree with. That's the definition of a bigot ("a person who is intolerant toward those holding different opinions").

Jones definiitely qualifies as a bigot, by why on earth is that old man coming on here in an attempt to justify his intolerance?
 
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Wow. Leftist bigot. Guess I should have been offended when I heard his comment and read his explanation. But I wasn't. Maybe I'm an idiot for enjoying his work. I had no idea.
 

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Cawood86, that's just being a typical leftist .... If you don't like someone's opinion, start name calling. Call them "old idiots" (although I'd suspect that most of them are not old). Most lefties don't tolerate opinions they don't agree with. That's the definition of a bigot ("a person who is intolerant toward those holding different opinions").

Jones definiitely qualifies as a bigot, by why on earth is that old man coming on here in an attempt to justify his intolerance?

What's funny is that Liberalism stands for tolerance, yet they have absolutely no tolerance for opinions differing from theirs. What a sad bunch of hypocrites.
 

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I think it's cool when you post here Matt. I wish you posted more. It's nice to exchange view points and arguments with everyone of the BBN, but it would certainly be nice to have you be a regular part of the discussions here.

I enjoy the radio show, and find myself checking the website off and on through the day. I think you hit the home run of dream jobs for most. And I think all of the hardcore base (which I agree frequent this board) are annoyed that someone they think they know more than has such a good gig. But if Greg popavich or Phil Jackson came and took your job--they'd say they know more about basketball than him.
 

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Hope this thread finds everyone in a chipper mood. I wanted to take a second and write after my
Long story short, this is the best place to find out what a segment of the fan base is thinking. That is crucial for my job...I enjoy reading this site and think the folks that run it (Rowland, TJ, etc) do a really good job. The anger and hatred of a few (along with my schedule) make me post less than I used to, but it is part of my daily preparation routine. The fact that there exists a small group of "old idiots" who believe I am the epitome of all thats wrong with the world amuses me, but won't stop my visits.
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You're actually surprised that anonymous people on a message board say mean things about you? Seriously, how could anybody from KSR, who has a caller & poster, that goes by "Kevin Slap Nuts" complain about any other Internet board? If you're going to get upset because people you don't know say nasty things about you, you've got a long torturous career ahead of you.

Spica Orbit
 
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These Liberals...always popping off at the mouth without thinking first, then writing 42 paragraphs to apologize/correct/explain... Seems Matt takes after his hero..."They are all in a basket of deplorables...no wait, I was just talking about a few, a small portion of them, not all of them"

Yeah, whatever....
 
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These Liberals...always popping off at the mouth without thinking first, then writing 42 paragraphs to apologize/correct/explain... Seems Matt takes after his hero..."They are all in a basket of deplorables...no wait, I was just talking about a few, a small portion of them, not all of them"

Yeah, whatever....

Agree 100% But, at least now I know who disagrees with me. It has to be some old women 1970's feminist idiots. Now, I am not talking about all of them just the ones who don't think I am the greatest poster of all time.
 

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Hey @MattJonesKSR , first of all I and many others appreciate you getting whatever info you can and giving it to BBN. You offer insight that the majority of us don't have access to. I think where many, including myself, take issue is when you put your political beliefs on your sports site or radio show.

When we tune into your show we want news on UK basketball and football. We don't need or want to know your thoughts on the nation's political landscape and what policies you want in or out of place. Simply put: we tune in and read your thoughts for UK sports, not Matt's political opinions.

That being said, in accordance with the first amendment you have every right to post and discuss your political views on your platform. I'm not implying that you HAVE to stop, and I certainly don't think less of you for excersizing your rights. However, when I tune to hear or read about sports and I start getting the political leanings of the speaker I, and many others, tune out.

I really think if you stick to what you do best, getting and spreading info on UK sports that the rest of us don't have access to, your audience will grow at faster rate than if you stick to your political guns.

Thank you for what you do.
Hope this thread finds everyone in a chipper mood. I wanted to take a second and write after my comments today about this Board on my radio show. I have always had a terrific love/hate relationship with this message board forum, going back to when it was originally Kentucky Sports Report before the merger (what year was that?). There is zero doubt that without this board and my "Magloire52" days, I would still be a lawyer and having a miserable time with my existence. The message board communities, especially of the old days, were the centerpiece of my UK Fandom and were the original basis for everything UK sports related on the Internet. Those days, ranging from the big online recruitments (Darius Rice anyone?) to the message board feuds were some of my favorite times in the UK online world and I do miss them...which is probably why I still post here from time to time.

Today I said on the radio a few things that I do believe...some positive and some negative. I said this is undoubtedly the biggest UK message board community on the internet. There was a time when there were many such places but that time has passed and honestly this is the last relevant one that exists. I often say that there are really only three sources of relevant UK information...KSR, Cats Illustrated and Twitter. The mainstream media sources can all be found via Twitter and if you read those three places, you know all there is to know. With that said, I do think message boards such as this on average draw an older crowd. While there are some younger people here, an entire generation has grown up having their UK discussions on Twitter and other social media. Some still find their way here, but most of the posters on here (I bet) are 35-40 and over. There are undoubtedly lurkers of all ages, and those that get news from here, but posting on message boards is what most of us do when we are bored at work (as I am now). This is the largest message board community of UK and its not close. But as those of around in the old days can say, message boards as a whole aren't what they once were in terms of traffic. More options now exist, from blogs to social media, that didn't before. The fact that this place has as many people as it does (when message boards of ALL Schools have seen significant drops) is a testament to its success.

My complaint today about "old idiots" on this message board was aimed at a small, but loud segment of folks here...the ones that bash me every single time my name is mentioned. They of course have a right to their opinion but I am constantly amused by the "I DONT LISTEN TO HIM but he is an idiot, blah, blah blah" threads that follow ever time my Beetlejuice is said in the crowd. It is usually followed by how I am liberal (somewhat true, although less than you think), single (true but happily), gay (not true), arrogant (true of most people who believe anyone would care about their opinion about anything), a jerk (hopefully not true, but I do get riled up from time to time) or a dork (undoubtedly true). Those folks bash me all the time but then get royally offended if I say anything about them, usually becoming quite angry in response. I do think those folks are often (or always) "old idiots" who care less about debating a particular point, rather than blasting me personally. Their act amuses me greatly and I have no problem mocking them in return. I only wish that when, as happened today, they begin their outrage, they would at least quote me correctly and in context.

But the VAST majority of the folks on here seem like good people. I read this site almost every day and pick up something from it every time. People like to accuse me or KSR of "stealing information" but that is honestly silly. We all hear the same information and whether people say it or not, we all have sources even if we don't share them. What I do use this forum for is to get a pulse of the fan base....specifically the hardcore, long-time fans who are engaged significantly in the details of the programs and who lean towards the negative side. I think that is a fair description of most (but not all) of the posters here. I use Twitter for the 20-35 year old fan, Snapchat for the 25 and under, Facebook for the 40 and over, my radio show for the broad fan base, the TV show for the Lexington/Lou fan, etc. I have been a part of doing demographic studies of every form of UK media (it was a big investment a couple years back and the resulting numbers have helped fuel how I approach all of my work) and they follow patterns that are fascinating. Each represents a slice of the overall pie. This board is the best to figure out what the hardcore group intimately engaged in every story is thinking. And I use it as such.

Long story short, this is the best place to find out what a segment of the fan base is thinking. That is crucial for my job...I enjoy reading this site and think the folks that run it (Rowland, TJ, etc) do a really good job. The anger and hatred of a few (along with my schedule) make me post less than I used to, but it is part of my daily preparation routine. The fact that there exists a small group of "old idiots" who believe I am the epitome of all thats wrong with the world amuses me, but won't stop my visits.
 

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Does anyone have the Cliff Notes of this ENTIRE thread???????????????? I just saw it...page 10 already...
 

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Couldn't read this until I found my reading glasses and took my blood pressure medication. Had to stop in the middle of it to take my afternoon nap. Now that I' m caught up I have to leave for my daily shuffle board game.
Do you eat dinner/supper before 5:00? :sunglasses:
 

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Nope, and I would qualify myself as an early middle-aged, non-idiot, neo-libertarian, thank ya very much.
I'm straight, but thanks. Not that there is anything wrong with that!

Lol, just yanking your chain. We are all blue brothers