A case for AM

artguy68

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"The only guy that really could beat us, we thought, was 2,” Bielema said, referring to NU quarterback Adrian Martinez.

So much for the RB, WR, and TE hype. The only guy on our offense the other team cared about is also the only guy on our offense many want to see benched.

Sadly, without AM, we have an inexperienced QB with inexperienced and not-all-that-talented RBs, a porous and mistake-prone OL, and a WR corps that can't get open (not that it matters if you have a QB who lacks the ability and time to get them the ball). What we need to do is put AM in situations where he doesn't have to rely on talents he doesn't have. Keep him on the move and tell him to run when he can. If he gets hurt, he gets hurt. At this point we shouldn't worry about it.
 

bigboxes

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Amart may suck, but Frost gets all the blame. It's Year 4, guys.
 

Swiv3D

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Being there in person to see this and the other missed throws to open receivers, I had the luxury of not being able to see what other people thought immediately and have to make my own judgments based upon what my own eyes saw. They saw a player fight till the end, but they also saw a terrible quarterback that hasn't improved since year 1
 

huskerbaseball13

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AMart is obviously not a good QB. But then again, is there any doubt that the weirdo QB coach and Frost are doing any development…at all?

Verduzco has the best job in the world and I can only assume Frost had a few too many at Gate 25 when deciding to keep guys like Verduzco and Austin around.
 

HominidHusker

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I’m no AM sympathizer, but the clip doesn’t clearly show his first read was the right side of the field, then he did well to scan back left and find Hickman running free… however Sichterman couldn’t sustain his block for more than 2.5 seconds and Adrian was hit in the leg as he released.
Could he still have made the throw or perhaps stepped up in the pocket? probably.
But in live game action, in 3 seconds to read right, scan left, and never know where your pocket is collapsing because it came from all sides Saturday, that’s a difficult job.
 

tpmcg_rivals137159

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Think about this for a minute -
AM has a career ~64% completion %age.
That’s a career completion %age I woulda loved any time in our history.
And yet, AM has many wide open overthrows or holds too long and gives up a scoop and score.
It makes everything look bad - amplification.
I’ve always felt that most good football is a hair away from **** football play.
How many times did we hear that the ‘96 team never gave up a sack?
Well, Tommie escaped many of the opportunities on his own!
And where would Scott be without this?!
A transfer in might have been helpful.

And I love Adrian.
I’ve pulled for him since the beginning.
He seems like a super great kid!
 

tpmcg_rivals137159

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I’m no AM sympathizer, but the clip doesn’t clearly show his first read was the right side of the field, then he did well to scan back left and find Hickman running free… however Sichterman couldn’t sustain his block for more than 2.5 seconds and Adrian was hit in the leg as he released.
Could he still have made the throw or perhaps stepped up in the pocket? probably.
But in live game action, in 3 seconds to read right, scan left, and never know where your pocket is collapsing because it came from all sides Saturday, that’s a difficult job.
He’s definitely not stepping into it.
 

artguy68

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The point is, even if he is not all the good, like it or not, he is our only real weapon, the only offensive guy the other team has to prepare for. So says Bielema who knows a thing or two.
 

HominidHusker

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Think about this for a minute -
AM has a career ~64% completion %age.
That’s a career completion %age I woulda loved any time in our history.
And yet, AM has many wide open overthrows or holds too long and gives up a scoop and score.
It makes everything look bad - amplification.
I’ve always felt that most good football is a hair away from **** football play.
How many times did we hear that the ‘96 team never gave up a sack?
Well, Tommie escaped many of the opportunities on his own!
And where would Scott be without this?!
A transfer in might have been helpful.

And I love Adrian.
I’ve pulled for him since the beginning.
He seems like a super great kid!
That reminds me of Tommy Armstrong making the OL look better than they were because he could evade sacks really well.
 

HominidHusker

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if he steps into the pocket Saturday on his 15 incompletions he mighta been able to take off for about another 100 yards.
At this point, if he needs to carry the team that way, so be it.
The problem is for every 100 yds he runs, he fumbles 1-3 times.
I think opposing coaches are ok with that deal.
 

Lincoln100

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The point is, even if he is not all the good, like it or not, he is our only real weapon, the only offensive guy the other team has to prepare for. So says Bielema who knows a thing or two.
Our only real weapon? Why, because he is incapable of making good decisions or completing a forward pass? Maybe if he could do either we could see that we have other athletes on the team. I dont put most of the blame on him, it is on the coaches. It is self-inflicted, and want more because we dont know any better. The 1 or 2 "wow" plays a game dont make up for the 9 or 10 wtf plays a game, and the other 20 or so subtle f ups that arent as noticeable.
 

otismotis08

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Maybe someone can post a clip of AM's option pitch...that thing floated in the air like a balloon.
You know I love the option game, but it's a catastrophe-in-waiting with this crew.
 

HUSKERFAN66

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"The only guy that really could beat us, we thought, was 2,” Bielema said, referring to NU quarterback Adrian Martinez.

So much for the RB, WR, and TE hype. The only guy on our offense the other team cared about is also the only guy on our offense many want to see benched.

Sadly, without AM, we have an inexperienced QB with inexperienced and not-all-that-talented RBs, a porous and mistake-prone OL, and a WR corps that can't get open (not that it matters if you have a QB who lacks the ability and time to get them the ball). What we need to do is put AM in situations where he doesn't have to rely on talents he doesn't have. Keep him on the move and tell him to run when he can. If he gets hurt, he gets hurt. At this point we shouldn't worry about it.
What he meant was if their defense was covering receivers and accounting for running back the only person to beat them was am.

One or two lucky passes and scrambling.

Then they figured it out and am collapsed
 

NebChicago

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Is it any wonder AMs best year was Frosh? Maybe Frost totally mind wrecked this kid, not too mention the kid doesn’t have much help or ever a run game to take the pressure off.
 

Mack In Motion

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Is it any wonder AMs best year was Frosh? Maybe Frost totally mind wrecked this kid, not too mention the kid doesn’t have much help or ever a run game to take the pressure off.
Typically teams take our running game away and dare AM to beat them throwing the ball.

And why not? It works a huge % of the time.
 
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BuckysBoys1

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Is it any wonder AMs best year was Frosh? Maybe Frost totally mind wrecked this kid, not too mention the kid doesn’t have much help or ever a run game to take the pressure off.
He had a decent line, Devine Ozigbo, Morgan, and Spielman. He had talent around him, and now has what? ****
 

cletusvanhorn

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My god what talented wide receiver would want to play with Kmart? There’s a reason he’s seen as the only weapon- he can’t get the ball yo his receivers or tight end or running back for that matter..
 

Iroh2

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Here is a happy thought…. Next year QB will either be AM (who will be exactly like this year) or someone who has never taken a snap in a college game behind a leaky line…. Not much hope on the horizon…
 

artguy68

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Our only real weapon? Why, because he is incapable of making good decisions or completing a forward pass? Maybe if he could do either we could see that we have other athletes on the team. I dont put most of the blame on him, it is on the coaches. It is self-inflicted, and want more because we dont know any better. The 1 or 2 "wow" plays a game dont make up for the 9 or 10 wtf plays a game, and the other 20 or so subtle f ups that arent as noticeable.
No, because that is what the opposing coach said. No offense, I'll take Bielema's football knowledge over yours.
 

RedMyMind

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EastOregonHusker

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The point is, even if he is not all the good, like it or not, he is our only real weapon, the only offensive guy the other team has to prepare for. So says Bielema who knows a thing or two.
Agreed. Not to say that AM is a good QB, but he has been a dangerous playmaker at times. What BB is saying is that he isn’t worried about the potential of any of our other offensive guys to consistently make plays against his defense. Some of that is on AMs arm, but clearly the OL is inadequate and separation is tough to come by for the WRs and TEs.
 
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Agreed. Not to say that AM is a good QB, but he has been a dangerous playmaker at times. What BB is saying is that he isn’t worried about the potential of any of our other offensive guys to consistently make plays against his defense. Some of that is on AMs arm, but clearly the OL is inadequate and separation is tough to come by for the WRs and TEs.
or, perhaps, it's this simple:

shut down literally any team in history's QB, you probably win
 

donahues17

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The last throw he had to end the game could have been a huge play as well but he waited too long then threw off his back foot as well. I dont remember seeing him set his feet and throw all game. How he competed some of them with no interceptions is beyond me.
 

BleedRed78

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"The only guy that really could beat us, we thought, was 2,” Bielema said, referring to NU quarterback Adrian Martinez.

So much for the RB, WR, and TE hype. The only guy on our offense the other team cared about is also the only guy on our offense many want to see benched.

Sadly, without AM, we have an inexperienced QB with inexperienced and not-all-that-talented RBs, a porous and mistake-prone OL, and a WR corps that can't get open (not that it matters if you have a QB who lacks the ability and time to get them the ball). What we need to do is put AM in situations where he doesn't have to rely on talents he doesn't have. Keep him on the move and tell him to run when he can. If he gets hurt, he gets hurt. At this point we shouldn't worry about it.
"(or so) we thought"...
 
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AM is above average 75% of the time. Its the 25% that kills us.

If he had made those 2 throws that he overthrew, we win the game and people commend him for playing well.
 

9and4_rivals188421

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He has the yips.

He's smart enough to know what NOT to do, but it seems that at the last instant, he tries to make a play that often ends in disaster.

That's a tough instinct to overcome.
 

huskerbaseball13

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My god what talented wide receiver would want to play with Kmart? There’s a reason he’s seen as the only weapon- he can’t get the ball yo his receivers or tight end or running back for that matter..

The same could be said for Frost, unless you plan on bar hopping with him…what recruit would want to play for the guy? Might explain why there are zero four stars sniffing around the program.
 
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He has the yips.

He's smart enough to know what NOT to do, but it seems that at the last instant, he tries to make a play that often ends in disaster.

That's a tough instinct to overcome.
he plays expecting to get hit, so he rushes things at times. 50% of those times, bad **** happens.

Ive said this a bunch. our biggest problem is our Oline. Austin, albeit a Husker alum, needs to be shitcanned asap. Im sure you get find some former coach/player to finish out the year.

Hell maybe someone like Sirles. He has a lot of good thoughts every time I hear him talk, and Im pretty sure he is just a sideline reporter right now.
 

Baxter48_rivals204143

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Imo Adrian doesn’t make fast enough decisions during the game he hesitates to much, I venture to say he’s a great practice player since everything is in a controlled environment, this is year four he hasn’t improved and I blame frost for that and the inability to recruit another quarterback
 
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Bielema is just saying that he thinks AM is the weak link. Shut everything else down and force him to be the one to beat you. He’s no rocket scientist, it’s obvious to everyone else too. I will ‘guess’ we see this every game until he can prove them wrong.

on the other hand, as horribly as we played we were still only a play or two away from winning it. A good QB would have led us to an easy victory.