That is increased from 55 points last year. I asked if their was a chance of it coming down depending on final numbers, and was told no.
That is all.
That is all.
62 Point cutoff for Yellow
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Seems they will only be satisfied when all the lots are devoid of cars and all the seats are empty. Then they can at least play the games with some peace and quiet.
You might be right. But while I can't speak for other lots, the yellow lot was pretty full, by game time, for a bunch of games last season. I was actually surprised for a couple games.
This way there will be no traffic jams leaving HPSS.
Great for the remaining high Donors left as the only fans.
I am not sure that 62 is the actual final # for Yellow. What it is, is the amount of points needed, plus a certain donation level ($1,000 for 1 pass?) that can guarantee you Yellow now. I was told when I renewed that I was guaranteed Yellow based on the fact that I exceeded 62 points and also had made a certain donation level.
If ticket holders have until April 30th to renew and contribute, I am not sure how they would know the amount of points needed to get in any lot, though they may have a pretty good estimate at this time.
If ticket holders have until April 30th to renew and contribute, I am not sure how they would know the amount of points needed to get in any lot, though they may have a pretty good estimate at this time.
thats seems awful high..that being said, the attrition in season tix and parking isnt being felt at the hardcore level..scarlet, yellow and blue still represent...its when you got purple and beyond you see it dropping off at that level
I wonder if the ticket office is now doing 'dynamic pricing' for premium parking spaces for individual games in Scarlet, Green and Yellow. Those parking passes fetch the better prices above Face on stub hub than good seats.
They could hold back, or make a higher cut off, and then sell for a very nice price to visiting fans looking to pay way over premium for a great parking spot.
They could hold back, or make a higher cut off, and then sell for a very nice price to visiting fans looking to pay way over premium for a great parking spot.
I renewed my tickets today and rep said season ticket sales are up vs last year. Not sure if I was just being given the party line.
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Parking passes for stadium lots are for season ticket holders. If they do sell them for gameday visitors I will never donate another dime.
The ticket office can hold the line on priority point minimums for lots with season ticket suckers if they unload parking tags via some of the ticket monger companies like Stub Hub or whoever, single game-by-single game. Lots of visiting team fans showing up in prime time parking areas ... not the distant lots.
When I had my weird Twilight Zone calls with my "ticket rep" last month he told me 62 was the cutoff for Yellow.
Could be that they just decided that's it. So let it be written, so let it be said.
Great for the school too. Pointless to have fans if you can’t monetize it. College sports is a business and not a nonprofit.
So you would be happy to have paid donations and parking fees only to park next to Penn State fans who were able to buy a parking pass through the school at a reduced price? You really are an idiot.
I don't think it is for just one pass if you have enough season tix to qualify for more. 1 pass for each 4 tix you have in your account. So an account holder who has say 12 tix should be able to get 3 passed if they meet the pp number and $1000 donation level. Unless they limit the pre-buy to just one pass per account..which would be foolish and difficult to do if you need several together.
Perhaps the account holders in yellow are made up if larger groups per account and not parties of 4?
Donation levels increase as the number of parking passes increases. The donation level is the same for 1 - 2, but goes up for 3 - 4, then again for 5 - 6.
I was told 62 is the cutoff. When I told him I would not donate the extra money to bring my number up to 62, I asked if I might still qualify based on the final numbers. He said no. 62 was the number, so either give more or no Yellow. The real kick in the *** is that the only reason I missed was because I didnt renew all my seats. So I lost some points. People wanted out, and I am sick of convincing them to stay. I feel like one of these aholes who tries to peddle stock tips at social functions.
They are getting close to completely screwing themselves. The ONLY reason to buy season tickets during the lean years is to maintain points. The tickets themselves are worthless. They can be had in the parking lot for $10 or even free at damn near every game. THe only value is in the parking passes. If they start selling parking in the premium lots, points are worthless, and there is no reason to participate at all. What else are they good for? Bowl game allocations, lol?
I have always been a big homer for RU, and told people they need to support it if they want it to succeed. I am getting worn out. This division they have us in is a double edged sword. The path to being competitive is becoming extremely cloudy. At this point, I honestly doubt if this school, with this donor base, and this State government, can ever be more than a doormat. Its sad.
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Didn't realize. Seems fair ( I guess)...some bundling allowed but controlled,
8 people is $125 each to secure donation level. ( of course paid by acct holder). A good portion of that covered by seat fee alone.
Its the points that is the challenge for groups of 4 or less that have a good reach.
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I was told the same last week (yellow lot = 62 pp cutoff) when I was finalizing my renewal. I was a little unclear about the whole 'buy now' to secure your spot initiative they started this year since I pretty much know I will qualify for yellow, but I guess they just want the money up front for all of it, rather than $140 now and the balance of $280 later in the summer.
I'm trying to remember if I heard the ticket rep correctly....think he said if you only put the deposit now but it becomes fully sold out by the time the parking assignments are generated in the summer (apparently the demand for Yellow is that much - the greatest demand of any lot on Busch is what he said), then you could conceivably be bumped even if you meet the PP and donation minimum. Not sure I fully believe that could happen, but I didn't feel like arguing the issue and just went ahead and locked it in.
I'm trying to remember if I heard the ticket rep correctly....think he said if you only put the deposit now but it becomes fully sold out by the time the parking assignments are generated in the summer (apparently the demand for Yellow is that much - the greatest demand of any lot on Busch is what he said), then you could conceivably be bumped even if you meet the PP and donation minimum. Not sure I fully believe that could happen, but I didn't feel like arguing the issue and just went ahead and locked it in.
If that were to happen it would result in the same reaction if Parking Passes are sold individually on the open market to the highest bidder...
Not good.
I am confident at some point, the program will be more than a door mat.
I'd have no problem with this. I'm out of the country and try to make as many games as possible. The only reason I buy a parking spot is for the resale value. I'm breaking even on yellow for Norfolk state but games like Penn state I make some money. I'd rather rutgers control the market and make money then me and the other guys that do this.
If the school holds back parking passes for resale that is big problem!! If this is true why would anyone donate to aquire more points to get a parking pass? Just wait and buy them through the school game by game. If the school is selling parking passes to non season ticket holders than all this crap about points is a bunch of crap. Would be a complete slap in the face to the loyal season ticket holder base.
Mine said new season ticket sales not net season ticket sales. I didn't ask if net sale were up. New season tickets is a good sign but we might be down net? I don't know.
Agreed to an extent, but maybe make it available for season ticket holders only? Like I sold my Purple season pass a few years back for either $400 or $500. It was an easy $200. Why not give the option to pay a premium and buy in to a lot. If there's a demand, make the money.
Here is the information that was sent out with the season ticket renewal package. It implies that you need 62 points to buy a yellow pass now. But you still have the option to rank your lots and enter the traditional lottery, where you have the opportunity to get a lot based on new cut-offs. (That doesn't mean the ticket rep was wrong. Maybe the ticket rep knows that based on the number of people who bought yellow passes now, and the number of yellow passes available, that there is unlikely to be any yellow passes left for those with less than 62 points.)
2018 PARKING GUIDE
BUY NOW PARKING!
As in years past, season ticket holders have the exclusive opportunity to purchase season long parking passes on Busch campus. For 2018 – each of the Rutgers owned and operated lots will be made available to purchase during the renewal process! If you wish to buy your parking now, simply review the minimum requirements for each lot and contact your account representative today! If renewing online, please submit the parking form and your account representative will be in touch shortly. Here is what you will need:
PARKING LOT BUY NOW PP MINIMUM 1 2 3 4 5
Scarlet 115 $2,500 $2,500 $10,000 $15,000 $20,000
Green 69 $1,500 $1,500 $3,000 $4,500 $6,000
Yellow 62 $1,000 $1,000 $2,000 $3,000 $4,000
Blue 22 $500 $500 $1,000 $1,500 $2,000
Purple 17 $250 $250 $500 $750 $1,000
Black 10 $100 $100 $200 $300 $400
Silver 1
Light Blue 1
Tan 1
RAC 1
Note: Fans are allowed 1 pass per 4 season tickets
TRADITIONAL PARKING PROCESS
Season ticket holders who would like to enter into the traditional parking allocation process this season may do so. Please submit your top preferences either online or over the phone with your account representative.
2018 PARKING GUIDE
BUY NOW PARKING!
As in years past, season ticket holders have the exclusive opportunity to purchase season long parking passes on Busch campus. For 2018 – each of the Rutgers owned and operated lots will be made available to purchase during the renewal process! If you wish to buy your parking now, simply review the minimum requirements for each lot and contact your account representative today! If renewing online, please submit the parking form and your account representative will be in touch shortly. Here is what you will need:
- MEET THE BUY NOW MINIMUM PRIORITY POINTS FOLLOWING YOUR RENEWAL.
- MEET THE MINIMUM ATHLETIC GIFT AS INDICATED IN THE CHART BELOW.
- CONTACT YOUR ACCOUNT REPRESENTATIVE.
- YOU CAN PAY FOR THE PASS IN FULL UP FRONT OR ADD IT TO YOUR BILLING PLAN.
- START PLANNING YOUR TAILGATES!
PARKING LOT BUY NOW PP MINIMUM 1 2 3 4 5
Scarlet 115 $2,500 $2,500 $10,000 $15,000 $20,000
Green 69 $1,500 $1,500 $3,000 $4,500 $6,000
Yellow 62 $1,000 $1,000 $2,000 $3,000 $4,000
Blue 22 $500 $500 $1,000 $1,500 $2,000
Purple 17 $250 $250 $500 $750 $1,000
Black 10 $100 $100 $200 $300 $400
Silver 1
Light Blue 1
Tan 1
RAC 1
Note: Fans are allowed 1 pass per 4 season tickets
TRADITIONAL PARKING PROCESS
Season ticket holders who would like to enter into the traditional parking allocation process this season may do so. Please submit your top preferences either online or over the phone with your account representative.
He would actually have more ( I think).
each $100 annually gives you 1 point
every $1000 you contribute lifetime is 1 point
And there is something about consecutive years of giving too.
You wouldn't need to buy 62 points because you get points for current tickets and lifetime giving, among other things:
http://scarletknights.com/sports/2017/6/11/RFund-priority-points-html.aspx
Calculating Your Priority Point Total
Annual Athletic Gift(s)/Pledge(s): $100/100 =
0
Lifetime University Giving: $1000/1,000 =
0
Current Season Ticket Purchases: #1x1 =
0
Consecutive Years of Purchase: #1x1 =
0
Consecutive Years of Giving: #0.5x2 =
0
Loyalty Points: #1x1 =
0
Total Points
0
I agree with you here. When you add in the required donation, season ticket holders pay $200 for a yellow pass, $280 for green, and $420 for scarlet, plus they have to have the priority point minimum, which requires purchasing loyalty and a history of donations.
For Rutgers to turn around and sell those passes to visiting fans (or even home fans who haven't shown the loyalty and donations) is a slap in the face to Rutgers' most loyal and generous donors.
I know Rutgers holds back some parking passes for donors who need an extra pass or for VIPs or others the athletic department is courting. I don't have a problem with that.
I also know that some season ticket holders sell passes for games they don't attend, and sometimes those passes end up in the hands of visiting fans. But that is different than Rutgers selling the passes on the open market, without the required donation and loyalty.
I don’t believe there is any way of knowing who the seller is on stub hub and similar sites.
If a week before any particular game, especially a premium game, there is still capacity in the Yellow lot, who could fault RU from selling spots at whatever the market will bear? Nobody will know RU was the seller anyway. Do the Green and Scarlet lots usually sell out before the season starts? Who knows?
And by raising the point total, RU is almost ensuring there will be extra parking spots to ensure getting more revenue on the open market.
Nobody liked 'Dynamic pricing' for seats when it first started, now it is accepted. Same for PSLs for Pro teams.
The school/ franchise makes a calculated decision, both short term and long term.
If a week before any particular game, especially a premium game, there is still capacity in the Yellow lot, who could fault RU from selling spots at whatever the market will bear? Nobody will know RU was the seller anyway. Do the Green and Scarlet lots usually sell out before the season starts? Who knows?
And by raising the point total, RU is almost ensuring there will be extra parking spots to ensure getting more revenue on the open market.
Nobody liked 'Dynamic pricing' for seats when it first started, now it is accepted. Same for PSLs for Pro teams.
The school/ franchise makes a calculated decision, both short term and long term.
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Let's not start or perpetuate rumors and get more people angry. Rutgers isn't holding back parking passes to sell on stubhub to make a few grand more a season. Sheesh
I didn't mean to imply they were doing that. I was agreeing with WhiteBus that Rutgers shouldn't do it (as suggested or implied by Abro). As far as I can tell, Rutgers does not hold back parking passes to resell later (other than I described above, to sell/give to donors, VIPs, and others that the Athletic Dept is courting).
I think the problem is that Rutgers, with the addition of this new "Buy Now" parking option, has made parking so complicated that even the mensa society of the Scarlet Nation Message Boards can't figure it out. It has become as clear as mud.
This is an achievement. I never would have thought even Rutgers could have made the existing priority-point based parking system even more complicated.
I still believe that Rutgers sells all spaces to each lot (minus a few holdbacks for VIP's and error corrections, etc.) and the the point cutoff is determined by the last person who gets a pass to each lot. This would make it impossible for anyone to announce what the cut-off is before April 30th (someone with high priority points may have not renewed yet).
I agree that the Buy-Now option, and statements from the ticket office that the cut-off is determined are undermining the faith fans have in the system, and could lead to a collapse of donations in the future. If I don't think I'm getting my fair shake, then why give at all?
This is an achievement. I never would have thought even Rutgers could have made the existing priority-point based parking system even more complicated.
I still believe that Rutgers sells all spaces to each lot (minus a few holdbacks for VIP's and error corrections, etc.) and the the point cutoff is determined by the last person who gets a pass to each lot. This would make it impossible for anyone to announce what the cut-off is before April 30th (someone with high priority points may have not renewed yet).
I agree that the Buy-Now option, and statements from the ticket office that the cut-off is determined are undermining the faith fans have in the system, and could lead to a collapse of donations in the future. If I don't think I'm getting my fair shake, then why give at all?
I think we have a history of the Ticket Office giving out incorrect or misleading information. I don't know how much this is the fault of the Ticket Office (for example, ticket agents saying what they think will get the sale, because they are incentivized on their sales) and how much is the fault of the Athletic Department (for example, they give incomplete or misleading information to the Ticket Office, so the ticket agents don't really understand the policy).
But since we also have a history of the Athletic Department not clearly communicating policies (see seat cushion fiasco at last year's season opener, and see price increase for S/G/Y this year), I certainly think the Athletic Department bears at least part of the blame. If they clearly communicated the parking assignment processes to BOTH fans and ticket agents, it would reduce the amount of confusion.