'26 Super 32 (10/24-25) thread

El_Jefe

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I think I'm realizing my expectations for some of these kids need To be tempered a bit.
Remember also that, until you get to the football weights, Super 32 brackets are enormous. As in, several weights have well over 100 wrestlers each, and some have 150+. These brackets have more students than several PA public schools have total 9-12 enrollment.

This event must occur in the offseason -- no state athletics body would ever approve that many matches in such a short period of time. It's borderline malpractice.

So while it does provide some compelling individual matches, it's much more a battle of attrition than a predictor.
 

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Remember also that, until you get to the football weights, Super 32 brackets are enormous. As in, several weights have well over 100 wrestlers each, and some have 150+. These brackets have more students than several PA public schools have total 9-12 enrollment.

This event must occur in the offseason -- no state athletics body would ever approve that many matches in such a short period of time. It's borderline malpractice.

So while it does provide some compelling individual matches, it's much more a battle of attrition than a predictor.

Not even close to true. It’s no different than Fargo (especially when it was line bracketing)

The best guys win. It’s not a guarantee?l, but it is a HUGE indicator of success at the next level.
 
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Nelson Villafane has made the finals...TFd his way through.

Deputy made the finals.

Karenbauer lost 7-2 in the semis.

Mateo Gallegos with the fall up 4-1 to make the 126 finals

Reef Dillard lost to Borge 4-3 in the semis

Matt Oneill made the finals 4-2

Cam Howard wins 4-1 to make the 157 finals

Dale Corbin falls 2-1 in tiebreakers at 138

Greyson Music lost 7-5 at 150 in the semis

Top seeds to lose -- Maximus Fortier WV beat Justus Heeg 8-6 at 175. Hayden Schwab lost 8-5 at 126

Melvin Miller advances at 165 but did give up 2 TDs in 19-9 win

Kikiniou beats Dube 3-2 with a reversal vs escape in TBs. Kikiniou had a disappointing U17s but took out the top seed here.

Hutcherson to the fnals 7-2 at 190

Bechtold loses to the top seed 11-0

Kendahl Hoare makes the finals at 285
 
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dicemen99

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Not even close to true. It’s no different than Fargo (especially when it was line bracketing)

The best guys win. It’s not a guarantee?l, but it is a HUGE indicator of success at the next level.
I don’t know if you guys aren’t arguing past each other with this post.

While it’s true the best guys win - they always win because there is a tier of guys at the top of the PFP that are clearly separated.

But sometimes below that when it comes to the podium it IS a war of attrition - and today they are a couple of days out from the last weigh in, so @El_Jefe has a point.

Somebody earlier in the thread said just pay attention to who people beat and who they lose to. Throw in what size they are for the weight class and I think you sum up this tournament nicely for the non-top 10 or 5ish PFP guys that compete.
 
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The important stat for the tournament.

The major Pennsylvania city of Dubois, population around 7500 in the 2020 census, two finalists. The entire state of Iowa, population 3.2 million. Two finalists.
Save that for the inevitable per capita argument thrown out during NCAAs
 
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If Villafane isn't the OW, I don't know what's what. 6TFs and pin in the finals.

I said earlier that he's the best prospect I've ever seen. Quite a few others have dominated early but they were simply more physically mature than their opponents. That's not the case with Villafane. I wish Wax would have wrestled here as he's the only one who can seemingly give him a match.
 

El_Jefe

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I don’t know if you guys aren’t arguing past each other with this post.

While it’s true the best guys win - they always win because there is a tier of guys at the top of the PFP that are clearly separated.

But sometimes below that when it comes to the podium it IS a war of attrition - and today they are a couple of days out from the last weigh in, so @El_Jefe has a point.

Somebody earlier in the thread said just pay attention to who people beat and who they lose to. Throw in what size they are for the weight class and I think you sum up this tournament nicely for the non-top 10 or 5ish PFP guys that compete.
This is about right. Also add that Fargo is age-segregated, Super 32 is not.

In terms of it being a predictor: here is Flo's list of all-time Super 32 finals ... which in classic Flo fashion, says it will be updated but hasn't been since 2016, lol.

Quite a few Super 32 finalists eventually reach the NCAA finals. At least as many end up as low-end NCAA qualifiers or complete non-factors in college. Obviously it's never going to be a 1:1 correlation, but I'd expect more college AAs.

It still might be as good of a predictor as we get from HS to college. Captain Obvious says projections are inexact.

I do think Super 32 is a good fan reference for recruiting.
 
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vhsalum

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Internet in the venue keeps going out. When all mats go at once you know it's not a flo technical issue

Don’t know about anyone else, but I’m using AppleTV. This entire weekend, it’s been freezing and now it just cuts off in the middle of matches.

Flosupport is useless. Just told me to restart my AppleTV.
 

vhsalum

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Also… I don’t get O’Neill, his entire ethos on wrestling is a side headlock - something he won’t be able to use in college.
 

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Don’t know about anyone else, but I’m using AppleTV. This entire weekend, it’s been freezing and now it just cuts off in the middle of matches.

Flosupport is useless. Just told me to restart my AppleTV.
Lol. It's the internet in the venue cutting out and they're losing connection to all mats. Once the internet is back up all mats are back up. When it's a Flo issue the mat stops working not all mats usually
 
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