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Beth Goetz on where Iowa men’s basketball stands in terms of roster-building funds:

“We’re not looking to put together a roster that’s going to have a $17 million line item on it. That’s not, I think, who we are going to be here at Iowa. But do we need to be in a competitive space where he (Ben McCollum) can go and pick up the pieces that he needs to be successful? Absolutely.”




This is unbelievable. Does she live under a rock? When the fans leave maybe she’ll change her mind.
 

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Beth Goetz on where Iowa men’s basketball stands in terms of roster-building funds:

“We’re not looking to put together a roster that’s going to have a $17 million line item on it. That’s not, I think, who we are going to be here at Iowa. But do we need to be in a competitive space where he (Ben McCollum) can go and pick up the pieces that he needs to be successful? Absolutely.”




Well, getting the pieces Ben needs to be competitive requires... money. If they're going to play it cheap, then the ceiling is probably about what we're already seeing. So, good luck with that. Players aren't going to get any cheaper in coming years, either.

"Iowa" doesn't have to mean out of touch with the current landscape.
 

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Ben is going to have to work some magic in the off season. We have to find some consistent shooters, and a guard that can replace Stirtz. I can only hope he can develop Tate, Koch, and Howard so they can take a big step forward next year. They're all young, but have potential.
 
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Franisdaman

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Ben is going to have to work some magic in the off season. We have to find some consistent shooters, and a guard that can replace Stirtz. I can only hope he can develop Tate, Koch, and Howard so they can take a big step forward next year. They're all young, but have potential.

Trey supposedly is gonna be really good, too.
 

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What do you want her to do pull 10 million dollars out of her a$$?
Thing is, based on her quote, it sounds like that's not what they plan to do, even if they could.

"We’re not looking to put together a roster that’s going to have a $17 million line item on it. That’s not, I think, who we are going to be here at Iowa." This quote doesn't give me much faith that they're willing to put significant money into the basketball program.

Didn't think the University was allowed to have anything to do with paying the players anyway, outside of the revenue sharing, at least? Meaning the NIL portion of the compensation. So there must be something I still don't understand about the whole thing when Beth says "we".
 
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Thing is, based on her quote, it sounds like that's not what they plan to do, even if they could.

"We’re not looking to put together a roster that’s going to have a $17 million line item on it. That’s not, I think, who we are going to be here at Iowa." This quote doesn't give me much faith that they're willing to put significant money into the basketball program.

Didn't think the University was allowed to have anything to do with paying the players anyway, outside of the revenue sharing, at least? Meaning the NIL portion of the compensation. So there must be something I still don't understand about the whole thing when Beth says "we".
Max payout from schools for sharing revenue with athletes is 20.5 million
15 is going to FB.
4 million might go to men's bb.

Some bb schools put way more into bb.,like Kentucky.

The outside nil money is only limited by donors.
Iowa does not have donors putting in an additional 13 million for bb unlike maybe a Duke, Kentucky or Kansas.

Iowa needs a billionaire or two to compete with Duke or Michigan...not happening.
 
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Franisdaman

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What do you want her to do pull 10 million dollars out of her a$$?
Schitts Creek Yes GIF by CBC
 

Hawkangler

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There is a window here which will soon close.

When congress gets involved and they will, to protect the NCAA from litigation, I expect the following:

- Caps and tighter controls on NIL spending. Harsh penalties for tampering.

- Limiting multiple transfers, one transfer no penalty. Second transfer player sits a year. Could have a compensatory element to colleges losing a student athlete to another school. Personally, I don't like players moving to another school in the conference.

- Age limits or limiting years to compete at no more than six. 7 or 8 years is crazy.

- Requiring more dollars by the universities to support olympic sports

Just my two cents.
 

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Thing is, based on her quote, it sounds like that's not what they plan to do, even if they could.

"We’re not looking to put together a roster that’s going to have a $17 million line item on it. That’s not, I think, who we are going to be here at Iowa." This quote doesn't give me much faith that they're willing to put significant money into the basketball program.

Didn't think the University was allowed to have anything to do with paying the players anyway, outside of the revenue sharing, at least? Meaning the NIL portion of the compensation. So there must be something I still don't understand about the whole thing when Beth says "we".
According to this article, Iowa was #5 in the country in NIL spending last year:

Top NIL programs

Whether you believe that or not is fine, but what is most notable to me is the numbers. Michigan is #1 at $8.8 million. They list Iowa at $6.6 million. Most notably, nobody is even close to the "$17 million" figure in Beth's quote.

My take is that Beth threw out that figure simply to illustrate the point that Iowa is never going to be an outrageous spender in MBB roster-building. $17 million would be outrageous for anyone, if the article above is to be believed. What I think Beth was saying, and what she has always said, is that Iowa will be competitive. We just aren't going to be one of those programs that goes out and buys the best roster available. Instead, we are going to be smart. Spend where we need to; develop where we can.

There's nothing that Beth has said in this quote, or any other time, that makes me think the plan for Iowa MBB is to build a roster on the cheap.
 

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According to this article, Iowa was #5 in the country in NIL spending last year:

Top NIL programs

Whether you believe that or not is fine, but what is most notable to me is the numbers. Michigan is #1 at $8.8 million. They list Iowa at $6.6 million. Most notably, nobody is even close to the "$17 million" figure in Beth's quote.

My take is that Beth threw out that figure simply to illustrate the point that Iowa is never going to be an outrageous spender in MBB roster-building. $17 million would be outrageous for anyone, if the article above is to be believed. What I think Beth was saying, and what she has always said, is that Iowa will be competitive. We just aren't going to be one of those programs that goes out and buys the best roster available. Instead, we are going to be smart. Spend where we need to; develop where we can.

There's nothing that Beth has said in this quote, or any other time, that makes me think the plan for Iowa MBB is to build a roster on the cheap.
That's interesting but encouraging if true. I really didn't know how much anybody was really spending for sure. It doesn't seem like publicly available data.

I keep hearing about how NIL-poor Iowa is, don't have the resources, and all that. Guess those folks don't know what they're talking about if Iowa was indeed #5 nationally. Iowa can't be all that poor, then.

Appreciate the info!
 

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Ok, this article is a year old.
Also, this is NIL spent on incoming players only.
So, for an Iowa which turned over their entire roster cept for koch, this basically is their entire payroll.
I am guessing about 3 million is revenue sharing from school with 4 million swarm type money

I have heard IU had a 10+ million dollar payroll.
Kentucky was 15+.
Duke is not on the list?
Do not believe it.
This article says nil spent on incoming transfers...not incoming frosh.
Duke has spent probably 20 million on their #1 rated frosh class.
Guy like dybantsa from BYU supposedly got 7 million
The #1 recruit at ku? Many millions
 

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Ok, this article is a year old.
Also, this is NIL spent on incoming players only.
So, for an Iowa which turned over their entire roster cept for koch, this basically is their entire payroll.
I am guessing about 3 million is revenue sharing from school with 4 million swarm type money

I have heard IU had a 10+ million dollar payroll.
Kentucky was 15+.
Duke is not on the list?
Do not believe it.
This article says nil spent on incoming transfers...not incoming frosh.
Duke has spent probably 20 million on their #1 rated frosh class.
Guy like dybantsa from BYU supposedly got 7 million
The #1 recruit at ku? Many millions
You may be right. Still, when Beth threw out the “$17 million” number, I think her point was simply that Iowa is not going to be a program that goes out and buys a roster (like Duke or Kentucky). We can still be competitive in the NIL market without spending like the Rockefellers of the MBB world.

It felt like some folks were thinking $17 million was an “average” roster cost that we were unwilling to pay. It’s not. It would very much be on the very high end.
 

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Ok, this article is a year old.
Also, this is NIL spent on incoming players only.
So, for an Iowa which turned over their entire roster cept for koch, this basically is their entire payroll.
I am guessing about 3 million is revenue sharing from school with 4 million swarm type money

I have heard IU had a 10+ million dollar payroll.
Kentucky was 15+.

Duke is not on the list?
Do not believe it.
This article says nil spent on incoming transfers...not incoming frosh.
Duke has spent probably 20 million on their #1 rated frosh class.
Guy like dybantsa from BYU supposedly got 7 million
The #1 recruit at ku? Many millions
Yes, these numbers do sound closer to what I thought I was hearing at one point.
 
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So Thompson and Harris will join the mix next year. We really need a PG and SF in the 27 class.
 

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Maybe Iowa's NIL was as stated above (was it $5.5 mil). Check 'Bennet Stirz 24 house'. He bought a house in Lubbuck for $3.2 mil apparently. It is a home for women and kids that are homeless or such. So maybe he got a big NIL package. Or maybe a medium amount and he bought on time????
 

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Maybe Iowa's NIL was as stated above (was it $5.5 mil). Check 'Bennet Stirz 24 house'. He bought a house in Lubbuck for $3.2 mil apparently. It is a home for women and kids that are homeless or such. So maybe he got a big NIL package. Or maybe a medium amount and he bought on time????
I think maybe you got duped by a fake article…
 

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You may be right. Still, when Beth threw out the “$17 million” number, I think her point was simply that Iowa is not going to be a program that goes out and buys a roster (like Duke or Kentucky). We can still be competitive in the NIL market without spending like the Rockefellers of the MBB world.

It felt like some folks were thinking $17 million was an “average” roster cost that we were unwilling to pay. It’s not. It would very much be on the very high end.
Agree.

There are only so many roster spots, and there are a lot of players who think they will be getting millions only to discover there are no teams willing to pay them that. Talent can be had…and that can be coached up…without paying an arm and a leg. The trick is to find them. I believe Ben will.

People act like Iowa is at the bottom when it comes to NIL. I highly doubt it.
 

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I think maybe you got duped by a fake article…
I guess so. I found a sports web site that had this article. Searched for Bennet living in Lubbock and nothing shows. Story said he did it because of something that happened when he was there. I thought it was a little wild to be true but found that one website. Shame on me.
 

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It will be interesting as players can announce they are going into the portal before April 7. But teams cannot recruit/commit until April 7 unless I misread the article.
 

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6'7", 200 pound SF Donovan Davis has locked in 5 official visits in April.

The schools: Wisconsin, Iowa, Marquette, Nebraska, Iowa State.

He is considered a 4 star prospect.

 

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6'7", 200 pound SF Donovan Davis has locked in 5 official visits in April.

The schools: Wisconsin, Iowa, Marquette, Nebraska, Iowa State.

He is considered a 4 star prospect.

I also saw this article. I don't think Iowa will stop recruiting HS players and just focus on the portal. Hopefully we can land (and keep) some talented recruits!

I fully expect some teams to completely abandon HS recruiting going forward -why evaluate and then develop kids when someone else can do that for you?
 
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6'7", 200 pound SF Donovan Davis has locked in 5 official visits in April.

The schools: Wisconsin, Iowa, Marquette, Nebraska, Iowa State.

He is considered a 4 star prospect.

Solid offer list. I would assume that he wants to stay in the midwest since that is where his visits are set up. He lives in Wisconsin so I would assume they have the inside track. Whenever we can get a visit we've got a shot.
 
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PG may not be as critical if they can lock up Isiah Johnson from the portal for multiple years.
 
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Solid offer list. I would assume that he wants to stay in the midwest since that is where his visits are set up. He lives in Wisconsin so I would assume they have the inside track. Whenever we can get a visit we've got a shot.
 

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