2027 Recruiting Thread

LMTLION

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Very immature and low class move.
My issue with this isn’t that a 17 year old went elsewhere. It is that a player who received loving support from Campbell and the staff could turn around and disrespect us to that level of that hat toss just because Rhule shows up with a slightly bigger bag and guarantee to start day 1. Parents should have taught him better. Here is a snippet from a national recruiting analyst a month ago (there is a lot more):
"I love the way they care for me, especially my mental (well-being) because I've been going through something," he said. "The day I shared it with them, they always checked up and make sure I was doing ok."
 
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If Taylor threw a Husker hat and committed to PSU you would be in love with him. He's a 17 year old. Get over it.
I personally would not love it if he reversed the order. I get he's 17, but respect the game, respect the process and respect the transfer portal. Coaches invest time and money to offer an opportunity. No harm in taking another opportunity, but why throw shade at those who believed in you. In this day and age of agents and personal advisors, I'd like to think an adult would have been present to advise on the value maintaining strong relationships.
 

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My issue with this isn’t that a 17 year old went elsewhere. It is that a player who received loving support from Campbell and the staff could turn around and disrespect us to that level of that hat toss just because Rhule shows up with a slightly bigger bag and guarantee to start day 1. Parents should have taught him better. Here is a snippet from a national recruiting analyst a month ago (there is a lot more):
"I love the way they care for me, especially my mental (well-being) because I've been going through something," he said. "The day I shared it with them, they always checked up and make sure I was doing ok."
Hmm. Antonio Logan El did a similar stunt with Ralph Friedgen when he was recruiting him to MD. Guess where he committed to…..PSU and Paterno. The event was nationally televised from the ESPN Zone in Baltimore and Friedgen’s wife was in attendance. It works both ways. They are high school kids.

 
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Good luck to him. Although I’m sure he’ll do great considering Nebraska’s illustrious history of wide receiver development and Matt Rhule’s reputation for getting so many of them into the NFL.
 
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LMTLION

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Hmm. Antonio Logan El did a similar stunt with Ralph Friedgen when he was recruiting him to MD. Guess where he committed to…..PSU and Paterno. It works both ways. They are high school kids.

The difference is that in this situation the player recently expressed appreciation the coaching staff was helping him with a significant personal issue and showing him love and care the entire time. I don’t care if Khalil Taylor would come to happy Valley with $0 NIL ask at this point. I would not want him on this roster after that disrespect.
 

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The difference is that in this situation the player recently expressed appreciation the coaching staff was helping him with a significant personal issue and showing him love and care the entire time. I don’t care if Khalil Taylor would come to happy Valley with $0 NIL ask at this point. I would not want him on this roster after that disrespect.
The difference? No difference. These kids form bonds with coaches from all different staffs. Someone is going home disappointed in every case. The terps were so convinced that Logan-El was announcing for MD (he was a previous silent commit) that Friedgen sent is wife to the nationally televised announcement to watch ALE diss MD, throw a MD hat on the floor and hold up a picture of Paterno. The only difference here is PSU is on the wrong end of the announcement. On a side note, Logan-El is considered one of PSU’s biggest busts ever.
 

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My issue with this isn’t that a 17 year old went elsewhere. It is that a player who received loving support from Campbell and the staff could turn around and disrespect us to that level of that hat toss just because Rhule shows up with a slightly bigger bag and guarantee to start day 1. Parents should have taught him better. Here is a snippet from a national recruiting analyst a month ago (there is a lot more):
"I love the way they care for me, especially my mental (well-being) because I've been going through something," he said. "The day I shared it with them, they always checked up and make sure I was doing ok."
Fudge Him! He's dead to me.
 
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LMTLION

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The difference? No difference. These kids form bonds with coaches from all different staffs. Someone is going home disappointed in every case. The terps were so convinced that Logan-El was announcing for MD (he was a previous silent commit) that Friedgen sent is wife to the nationally televised announcement to watch ALE diss MD and hold up a picture of Paterno. The only difference here is PSU is on the wrong end of the announcement. On a side note, Logan-El is considered one of PSU’s biggest busts.
That stunt lines up with the beginning of the PSU dark age! Just sayin…
 
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Marshall2323

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I personally would not love it if he reversed the order. I get he's 17, but respect the game, respect the process and respect the transfer portal. Coaches invest time and money to offer an opportunity. No harm in taking another opportunity, but why throw shade at those who believed in you. In this day and age of agents and personal advisors, I'd like to think an adult would have been present to advise on the value maintaining strong relationships.
Have you watched the NFL or MLB? They are presumably "adults." We coached our players to show "class." But the reality is that things have changed. We don't have to like it. But, honestly, it isn't a good look for PSU fans to wring their collective hands over a kid's behavior. I recall not long ago that Julian Fleming spurned PSU and said some unflattering things about PSU. No one visited or got more love. A few years later his return prompted the player personnel experts here to spend an off season "coaching me up" and informing me that the #4 Ohio State WR would automatically be #1 here. How'd that turn out?
I hope the PSU coaches have "thicker skin" than to be obsessed with a hat throw.
The concern here should be how did PSU lose a "home town" kid to the program that Nebraska currently is?
I doubt he went there for "a little bit" more money. It was likely a "lot" more money. If so, perhaps he felt "disrespected" that PSU didn't value him enough to match? Just some food for thought.
We just keep having difficulty accepting that coaches and players are going for the most cash. It's a gold rush and it won't last forever. No one with a chance to join in wants to be left behind.
 

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Its still not cool....regardless of which school he committed to.....Penn State or otherwise. Do you make a distinction??
It doesn't bother me in the least. Kids put 3 or 4 hats on the table and play games till they pick one up. I stopped watching the commitment videos a long time ago. I wonder why anyone watched this? For days we all knew where he was going.
The focus of a recruiting thread should be "how did we lose 3 top WR candidates?" Dean, Hall, and now Taylor.
I'm including Harrison because we need players like him to tilt a game in our favor for a change.
I understand it isn't over till it's over. But wishing and hoping for flips, isn't a sound strategy.
 
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This type of announcement isn’t new or unique. It’s been happening for decades. lol. The astonishment and vitriol from some is a little dramatic.
"We" don't handle rejection well, LOL
"We" also hate our former coach.
Other than that "we" are well adjusted. ;)
 
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LMTLION

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I thought he committed in 2006, after the highly successful 2005 season, which followed the dark age from 2000 to 2004?
You’re right. I got my years crossed. I believe the date function was broken in that article that was linked and I misread it as 1999.
 
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The difference is that in this situation the player recently expressed appreciation the coaching staff was helping him with a significant personal issue and showing him love and care the entire time. I don’t care if Khalil Taylor would come to happy Valley with $0 NIL ask at this point. I would not want him on this roster after that disrespect.
The difference is:

One kid said he was coming to PSU (Yeah! Future star, great kid)
One kid said he was going somewhere else (Boo! The Devil child, what a disgrace! Just looking for a big bag of money)

Good grief.
 

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He was quoted coming out of his PSU visit how appreciative he was of our staff helping him with his mental health struggles and always checking in with him offering our support. The hat toss is disrespect. Some say he even verballed silently to Campbell during the visit . Eff him. He burned a bridge. Comes across as an ahole.
Someone with known mental health issues is not exactly someone who I would want on my team. A lot of time and resources may have to be spent on him just to keep him on a somewhat even keel. And then he just might do something really stupid or walk away after all the time and effort spent on him. He might be someone who just never works out.
 
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The difference is:

One kid said he was coming to PSU (Yeah! Future star, great kid)
One kid said he was going somewhere else (Boo! The Devil child, what a disgrace! Just looking for a big bag of money)

Good grief.
You’re making a big assumption that the people who disapprove of the disrespect toward PSU approve of it going the other way. Personally, I hate the sh9t either way and think less of whoever is doing it. I remember ALE leaving a sour taste in my mouth when he did that—as with a number of other PSU fans who remembered being on the receiving end of it with Kevin Jones.
 
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It doesn't bother me in the least. Kids put 3 or 4 hats on the table and play games till they pick one up. I stopped watching the commitment videos a long time ago. I wonder why anyone watched this? For days we all knew where he was going.
The focus of a recruiting thread should be "how did we lose 3 top WR candidates?" Dean, Hall, and now Taylor.
I'm including Harrison because we need players like him to tilt a game in our favor for a change.
I understand it isn't over till it's over. But wishing and hoping for flips, isn't a sound strategy.
...."Remember, Red, hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies."
 
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Alphalion75

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It doesn't bother me in the least. Kids put 3 or 4 hats on the table and play games till they pick one up. I stopped watching the commitment videos a long time ago. I wonder why anyone watched this? For days we all knew where he was going.
The focus of a recruiting thread should be "how did we lose 3 top WR candidates?" Dean, Hall, and now Taylor.
I'm including Harrison because we need players like him to tilt a game in our favor for a change.
I understand it isn't over till it's over. But wishing and hoping for flips, isn't a sound strategy.
It bothers me anytime I see disrespectful behavior. In any context my friend.
 

Nits1989

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Someone with known mental health issues is not exactly someone who I would want on my team. A lot of time and resources may have to be spent on him just to keep him on a somewhat even keel. And then he just might do something really stupid or walk away after all the time and effort spent on him. He might be someone who just never works out.
We just saw in real time a former player who transferred to another team, who is no longer with that team or even playing football, who appeared to have mental health issues. I think PSU had another DE within Franklin's term as coach who had mental health issues as well. There's probably more. Now we see a player who thanked PSU on social media for being sensitive to his own mental health issues, only to announce to another school and toss a PSU hat to the ground. How much money do you offer that player? Do mental health issues play a role in the offer? Absolutely. Do I think that Rhule's recruiting decisions are based on having a substantially different budget than PSU? No, I don't think Nebraska has a substantially different budget. Do I think Rhule might be making desperate recruiting decisions? Yes, I do.

That being said, PSU quickly needs to find a WR recruit with potential.
 
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We just saw in real time a former player who transferred to another team, who is no longer with that team or even playing football, who appeared to have mental health issues. I think PSU had another DE within Franklin's term as coach who had mental health issues as well. There's probably more. Now we see a player who thanked PSU on social media for being sensitive to his own mental health issues, only to announce to another school and toss a PSU hat to the ground. How much money do you offer that player? Do mental health issues play a role in the offer? Absolutely. Do I think that Rhule's recruiting decisions are based on having a substantially different budget than PSU? No, I don't think Nebraska has a substantially different budget. Do I think Rhule might be making desperate recruiting decisions? Yes, I do.

That being said, PSU quickly needs to find a WR recruit with potential.
The good news is this staff has a track record of bringing in great receivers, no matter how many stars the recruiting services doted on them. Check Campbell’s NFL receivers—they know what they want and they’ll get it.
 

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The difference? No difference. These kids form bonds with coaches from all different staffs. Someone is going home disappointed in every case. The terps were so convinced that Logan-El was announcing for MD (he was a previous silent commit) that Friedgen sent is wife to the nationally televised announcement to watch ALE diss MD, throw a MD hat on the floor and hold up a picture of Paterno. The only difference here is PSU is on the wrong end of the announcement. On a side note, Logan-El is considered one of PSU’s biggest busts ever.
Re: your side note, someone should do the analytics on hat throwing recruits. Do they live up to their rating or bust more often than others? (He says half joking…) 🙂
 
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The good news is this staff has a track record of bringing in great receivers, no matter how many stars the recruiting services doted on them. Check Campbell’s NFL receivers—they know what they want and they’ll get it.

The WR coach that was credited with that development bailed on PSU after just seven weeks. That probably hurt our WR recruiting this cycle.
 
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Gibson just flipped to Rutgers. Man, things really fell apart here in June and July.

Got to find a way to win and get some strong product on the field this fall. And it seems like we'll have some extra cash for the transfer portal.
 
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So Gibson reclassified to 2026 and will enroll in August. Didn't see that coming. What impact did that have on his recruitment? Do we not have a space in the 2026 RB room?

Why did his rating just go from 4 star number 8 RB to 3 star number 34 RB?

There's not a lot of uncommitted RBs in the 2027 top 50 RBs. Probably have to flip a RB or portal.
 
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So Gibson reclassified to 2026 and will enroll in August. Didn't see that coming. What impact did that have on his recruitment? Do we not have a space in the 2026 RB room?

Why did his rating just go from 4 star number 8 RB to 3 star number 34 RB?

There's not a lot of uncommitted RBs in the 2027 top 50 RBs. Probably have to flip a RB or portal.
Yeah, with him wanting to jump into the 26 class, I don’t see this as much of a problem. I don’t think he’d crack the rotation here in 26 so it’s not that big of a deal. We will probably lose a couple others in our class before December but they’ll get replaced with some kids who are committed elsewhere right now.
 
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