2027 Recruiting Thread

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This is how it goes on PSU message forums across the different sites. It’s how we roll. Every topic typically detours into battles between Franklin and Paterno fans. There is no allowance for those of us that are fans of Paterno, BOB, Franklin and Campbell. Actual recruiting talk becomes early cycle absolute judgments on individual star ratings, which inevitably change every year between now and December, as they already have done so recently for some of our recruits. Some demand we “throw a bag” at a highly rated recruit who just may not fit Campbell’s plan, not understanding the lack of a plan under Franklin lead to his demise and now we are trying to rebuild a roster that lost 70 players from 2025 and will need to again heavily invest in the portal.
Unlike Campbell’s recruiting plan at ISU which resulted in zero championships and the same number of playoff appearances you mean? Look I get the Franklin firing and hope Campbell wins all those championships Kraft promised but claiming Franklin had no recruiting plan is beyond nonsensical.
 
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Penn State sent the whole coaching staff to visit Wood ONLY after Bourque turned them down. Time will tell who turns out to be the better QB but stop the nonsense about Penn State not wanting Bourque.
This is completely false. And would be refuted by multiple sites’s insiders.

PSU thought asking price was too steep and moved on to Wood. Actually, Georgia did too.

Steve Wiltfong even reported that days before his commitment date he reached out to PSU (and reportedly ND) and was wanted to negotiate NIL one last time. PSU passed again.

VT was the only school willing to pay him. Not PSU, not Georgia, not ND, not OSU.
 

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This is completely false. And would be refuted by multiple sites’s insiders.

PSU thought asking price was too steep and moved on to Wood. Actually, Georgia did too.

Steve Wiltfong even reported that days before his commitment date he reached out to PSU (and reportedly ND) and was wanted to negotiate NIL one last time. PSU passed again.

VT was the only school willing to pay him. Not PSU, not Georgia, not ND, not OSU.


Psu was the only school that was willing to pay Woods price. No offers from osu, ND or georgia.
 

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This is completely false. And would be refuted by multiple sites’s insiders.

PSU thought asking price was too steep and moved on to Wood. Actually, Georgia did too.

Steve Wiltfong even reported that days before his commitment date he reached out to PSU (and reportedly ND) and was wanted to negotiate NIL one last time. PSU passed again.

VT was the only school willing to pay him. Not PSU, not Georgia, not ND, not OSU.
This is the absolute truth spanning from the insider boards to X. PSU and Georgia spoke with each other to confirm the agent was playing games falsifying the offer from both schools to artificially drive up the bidding war. After that conversation, both PSU and Georgia dropped out and Franklin was left bidding on a player at an artificial amount. It was worth it to Franklin as he could claim he beat out Blue Bloods for a QB.
 
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Unlike Campbell’s recruiting plan at ISU which resulted in zero championships and the same number of playoff appearances you mean? Look I get the Franklin firing and hope Campbell wins all those championships Kraft promised but claiming Franklin had no recruiting plan is beyond nonsensical.
I’m referring about his lack of planning for the usage of NIL overall, not just recruiting. He spent big on Olesh and ruined his pot of money to land an elite DT and an elite WR in the portal for the 2025 run. He had options, but couldn’t spend the money in that portal season.
 
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Nope, not at all. I gave him 12 years. He built and then the year he should have made a run he completely folded like a cheap suit. Either his feelings were hurt because he couldn’t extract more money from the school, the pressure was too much for him, or he came to believe in the national reputation he developed and earned. Whichever of the reasons, he couldn’t be allowed to remain in charge.
You continue to defend every coach in the profession not named Matt Campbell. I’ll continue to watch games with an honest assessment of their abilities. See you at 5 AM for your morning piss posting spree about Franklin in, of all misplaced locations, the 2027 recruiting thread. I’m done with this back and forth with you. You’re disingenuous in your approach.
In the end Franklin pissed in his own Wheaties.
 
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You guys are all immature bullies. Marshall is a true fan and you're all so rude. Ignoring all of the Franklin stuff and i'm actually a Franklin support, he truly knows football and can articulate that. His opinions are always well thought out and presented and never stated as fact-you all just don't choose to read them. You say Franklin is a fraud? A used car salesman? That he is a bad coach? When you compare every coach to Joe Paterno,
you're gonna have a bad time. THIS ISN'T 1991. I pray to GOD that PSU hits the pinnacles so many here fill confident they will.
But as an ardent lover of PSU football, WHY do I not have the warm and fuzzies about the state of the program?
Can someone tell me why I really should?My heart beats for PSU so I wouldn't go against my gut-my instinct is pretty worried.
Changing gears-I'm so tired of the disrespect to Franklin after all he did for the program. The way some of you communicate and show your true colors is abysmal-you don't come across as thoughtful or eloquent; you come across as immature and for lack of a better world disloyal.
Even Paterno wouldn't have lasted as long as he did with your lofty expectations. You guys who talk down can't acknowledge his positive traits and use zero intellectual language to defend why you have SUCH concerning vitriol to Franklin. You are idealistic if you think Campbell is just gonna walk in here and do any better. The reality is that we kicked a very good coach to the curb for a potentially good coach.
I'm young but i'm not too stupid to remember to dance with the one that brought you. I love Matt Campbell-it's beyond a miracle we got him, because he's about the ONLY candidate that could carry Franklin's jock. Matt Campbell is the man because he's smart, good talent developer, blue collar, preaches honor, and integrity. SO thrilled we have that at PSU still....So the next time you want to give your opinion, you should speak like Matt Campbell or Marshall does for that matter. It's sad and you can say i'm a Franklin supporter all you want-you're ******* right I am. Because I'm a PSU supporter and he gave 100% to the school and that was apparent from day one. James Franklin is a top ten coach and those don't just grow on trees. Lastly, I would defend ANY of you the way I am standing up for Marshall. If someone's speaking in good faith and factually he should not be disparaged. Marshall's probably forgotten more about football than many of you know.
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You guys are all immature bullies. Marshall is a true fan and you're all so rude. Ignoring all of the Franklin stuff and i'm actually a Franklin support, he truly knows football and can articulate that. His opinions are always well thought out and presented and never stated as fact-you all just don't choose to read them. You say Franklin is a fraud? A used car salesman? That he is a bad coach? When you compare every coach to Joe Paterno,
you're gonna have a bad time. THIS ISN'T 1991. I pray to GOD that PSU hits the pinnacles so many here fill confident they will.
But as an ardent lover of PSU football, WHY do I not have the warm and fuzzies about the state of the program?
Can someone tell me why I really should?My heart beats for PSU so I wouldn't go against my gut-my instinct is pretty worried.
Changing gears-I'm so tired of the disrespect to Franklin after all he did for the program. The way some of you communicate and show your true colors is abysmal-you don't come across as thoughtful or eloquent; you come across as immature and for lack of a better world disloyal.
Even Paterno wouldn't have lasted as long as he did with your lofty expectations. You guys who talk down can't acknowledge his positive traits and use zero intellectual language to defend why you have SUCH concerning vitriol to Franklin. You are idealistic if you think Campbell is just gonna walk in here and do any better. The reality is that we kicked a very good coach to the curb for a potentially good coach.
I'm young but i'm not too stupid to remember to dance with the one that brought you. I love Matt Campbell-it's beyond a miracle we got him, because he's about the ONLY candidate that could carry Franklin's jock. Matt Campbell is the man because he's smart, good talent developer, blue collar, preaches honor, and integrity. SO thrilled we have that at PSU still....So the next time you want to give your opinion, you should speak like Matt Campbell or Marshall does for that matter. It's sad and you can say i'm a Franklin supporter all you want-you're ******* right I am. Because I'm a PSU supporter and he gave 100% to the school and that was apparent from day one. James Franklin is a top ten coach and those don't just grow on trees. Lastly, I would defend ANY of you the way I am standing up for Marshall. If someone's speaking in good faith and factually he should not be disparaged. Marshall's probably forgotten more about football than many of you know.
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I’m referring about his lack of planning for the usage of NIL overall, not just recruiting. He spent big on Olesh and ruined his pot of money to land an elite DT and an elite WR in the portal for the 2025 run. He had options, but couldn’t spend the money in that portal season.
Bear Alexander who played for the Ducks would have made a big difference in the middle of the line last year.
 
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I’m referring about his lack of planning for the usage of NIL overall, not just recruiting. He spent big on Olesh and ruined his pot of money to land an elite DT and an elite WR in the portal for the 2025 run. He had options, but couldn’t spend the money in that portal season.
Crystal ball for Guertin. Word on the street is it happens this weekend. Big money deal for this one.



Big money for olesh, bad. Big money for Guertin, good.
 
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Guertin is a big recruiting win.

Campbell was one of the first to scout and offer him when he was ranked in the 1000s. Very under the radar guy in RI which isn’t known for its talent. Then Florida and Tenn hopped in. He’s now ranked in the top 200.

It seems like we’re way more intentional with our recruiting than we’ve been in a long time. Campbell is going after his guys.
 
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Big money for olesh, bad. Big money for Guertin, good.
Sorry for bursting your bubble. There is no such contradiction in what I’m saying. Olesh at 6-5 210 pounds could not play tight end in year one here. Guertin already has the size to play in college. Campbell’s crew spends money when they see value and getting a more immediate return in investment (Gibson is another one we spent elevated dollars on because he can start at rb in year one.)
 
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Bear Alexander who played for the Ducks would have made a big difference in the middle of the line last year.
Yep, we had opportunities for him and others (mutual interest) and Franklin was so extended otherwise (Olesh and some of the retained seniors cost a fortune above market rates)he couldn’t pull the trigger on needed portal help to plug some of the major holes we had in the roster.
 

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Jamir Dean is being projected to flip to Georgia. We can’t always have nice things here. He was the WR I was most excited about. He took a secret trip to Georgia this past week without telling our staff. Maybe it’s good riddance if that is how he operates.
 

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Sorry for bursting your bubble. There is no such contradiction in what I’m saying. Olesh at 6-5 210 pounds could not play tight end in year one here. Guertin already has the size to play in college. Campbell’s crew spends money when they see value and getting a more immediate return in investment (Gibson is another one we spent elevated dollars on because he can start at rb in year one.)
I tend to agree with you here. We are likely not getting Sesay, but it almost a given that unless Sesay throws on about 30 pounds of good weight in the next year. PSU will get more out of Guertin year one and two than the team the lands Sesay will get. Sesay has top end potential appear to be unlimited. Think Oweh, who never really gave PSU a lot, but is actually a better pro player.

What people see in Sesay is great explosion on a frame that can be 250 down the road. Guertin is already there, but may not be as athletic. Guertin is a safer choice and at a lesser cost. He is exactly what PSU needs to land, and he may turn into a real high draft pick as well. He's no slouch. I tend to think he's a top 100, even top 50 kid if he plays in Texas or Florida.
 

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Sorry for bursting your bubble. There is no such contradiction in what I’m saying. Olesh at 6-5 210 pounds could not play tight end in year one here. Guertin already has the size to play in college. Campbell’s crew spends money when they see value and getting a more immediate return in investment (Gibson is another one we spent elevated dollars on because he can start at rb in year one.)


Olesh was listed at 236 on last year's roster. Sorry to burst your bubble but measurables from 11th grade tend to improve. Guertin will also not hold 255-260 as he is currently listed. That is why the recruiting sites list him as DL. He is most likely going to DT.

You know who is playing this year? What other recruits have the green light? I want to know who are thegood and bad signings using your logic.
 

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Olesh was listed at 236 on last year's roster. Sorry to burst your bubble but measurables from 11th grade tend to improve. Guertin will also not hold 255-260 as he is currently listed. That is why the recruiting sites list him as DL. He is most likely going to DT.

You know who is playing this year? What other recruits have the green light? I want to know who are thegood and bad signings using your logic.
Olesh came in at 210. He did not have the size to compete at TE in year one. Sure, after a year of S&C he got to 236. Maybe at that height he can get to 245-2 50 to play TE for Oregon this year. Guertin is de, that is how he was recruited, and Our new dc prefers larger DE’s.
 

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Jamir Dean is being projected to flip to Georgia. We can’t always have nice things here. He was the WR I was most excited about. He took a secret trip to Georgia this past week without telling our staff. Maybe it’s good riddance if that is how he operates.
If PSU gets 1 or both of the WRs projected to PSU, plus keeps the WR already committed, PSU is in really good shape. This is the new normal.
 

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This is the absolute truth spanning from the insider boards to X. PSU and Georgia spoke with each other to confirm the agent was playing games falsifying the offer from both schools to artificially drive up the bidding war. After that conversation, both PSU and Georgia dropped out and Franklin was left bidding on a player at an artificial amount. It was worth it to Franklin as he could claim he beat out Blue Bloods for a QB.

Were these the same fake/unknowledgeable insiders who were telling you Wood faced tougher comp against Catholic League and publics than Bourque did against prep school NEPSAC competition?

The "insiders say" shtick lost any and all credibility following that embarrassment.
 
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Jamir Dean is being projected to flip to Georgia. We can’t always have nice things here. He was the WR I was most excited about. He took a secret trip to Georgia this past week without telling our staff. Maybe it’s good riddance if that is how he operates.
Where did you see this?
 

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Unlike Campbell’s recruiting plan at ISU which resulted in zero championships and the same number of playoff appearances you mean? Look I get the Franklin firing and hope Campbell wins all those championships Kraft promised but claiming Franklin had no recruiting plan is beyond nonsensical.
The sheep here are comical. It's worth hanging around. One tells a lie and then they all swear to it. Olesh got a million, LOL
Poor James, if he just knew football like or listened to the real experts here.
 

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This is completely false. And would be refuted by multiple sites’s insiders.

PSU thought asking price was too steep and moved on to Wood. Actually, Georgia did too.

Steve Wiltfong even reported that days before his commitment date he reached out to PSU (and reportedly ND) and was wanted to negotiate NIL one last time. PSU passed again.

VT was the only school willing to pay him. Not PSU, not Georgia, not ND, not OSU.
Not every fanbase would celebrate wrestling the #30 rated QB from the clutches of Boston College and disparage the #7 rated qb who was a top 3 in the Elite Eleven ....but we coach em up. LOL
 

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This is the absolute truth spanning from the insider boards to X. PSU and Georgia spoke with each other to confirm the agent was playing games falsifying the offer from both schools to artificially drive up the bidding war. After that conversation, both PSU and Georgia dropped out and Franklin was left bidding on a player at an artificial amount. It was worth it to Franklin as he could claim he beat out Blue Bloods for a QB.
Typical fanboy revisionist history.
 

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Who are the college ready players in this class and not college ready? Give us the list.

I pay you a compliment, and you wont accept it. Of course, just maybe we were both being sarcastic.

I already did give you the start of a list. Guertin will get some meaningful reps at PSU as a true freshman, and Sesay likely will not wherever he ends up. Guertin got a college build, even if he ends up at DT. Sesay is 30 pounds of good weight of being a college DE.

Now, see if I'm right in 15 months.

Question. Do you think a HS Tight end (regardless of skill level or HS rating) that comes on campus at around 215 to 220 is ready to contribute at a college level?

For Olesh, maybe he will show at Oregon he was worth the money Franklin thought he was, but last year. Olesh was no more ready to contribute than Matt Henderson was. The both needed 30 pounds or so, and will get it. Have you noticed to two TEs signed this year are both already around 230. They are both more college ready bodies.
 
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Bear Alexander who played for the Ducks would have made a big difference in the middle of the line last year.
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