2027 Recruiting Thread

[PSUForever]

That's not what I said. I said unless we do really well in the portal.

PSU loses Becht and at this point the backups are modestly ranked and inexperienced. We also lose other key starters that came over from Iowa State like Hansen (RB), Brahmer (TE), Sowell (WR), and Bacon (LB). That's on top of original PSU players like Rojas & Collins. PSU lost almost all of it's recruiting class from 2026 so there aren't many up and coming players. Without those transfers our high school recruiting class was ranked next to last in the BiG and 65th overall. The 2027 class average player rating is 6th in the BiG and most of those kids won't be making a huge contribution as true freshmen anyway.

The 2027 schedule includes @ Indiana, @ Oregon, Michigan, Washington, etc. I stand by my way too early prediction that unless we do very well in the portal 2027 & 2028 could be rebuilding years with 8-4 type seasons.

You're afraid of every opponent who looks to have a pulse. Glad you aren't the coach.

What does "unless we do very well in the portal" even mean? So if we replace 10 guys or however many you reeled off with premium portal talent then we will be very good and back to 10-2 or 11-1? What if we replace half of them? So you already know that whomever the backups are that are on the roster now will be non effective in 2027? So much can change in 16 months. How do you know we don't have a QB on the roster now that can replace Becht without missing a beat? You make it sound like after this year our roster talent drops to MAC level and we need to get all of our starters from the portal. So what will be our record in 2027 since you are such a sky is falling person about the year sans "doing very well in the portal"? I want it on record from you now. Don't hide behind the portal excuse just give me what you think it will be.

 

[PSUForever]

And you know Penn State cooled on Bourque how? Asking for a friend.

When they sent the whole coaching staff to Wood's home for starters but not for Bourque. Add to that the fact that Wood has been moving up the rankings and fits better in the offense than Bourque. But you can go on believing that we really wanted Bourque but he shunned us so we had to settle for a 2nd tier QB and Campbell is inferior to BGJ in recruiting.

 

[Marshall2323]

Key retentions:
QB - 0
RB - 0
WR - 0
TE - Rapp
OL - Donkoh, Cousins
DE - Maybe Granville
DT - 0
LB - Rojas if healthy
DB - Tracy, Collins, Dixson

That's not a lot but we did get an experienced QB, RB, WR, DE, and LB from Iowa State in the portal

The QB RB WR TE etc. all played for Campbell and the OC last year. This offense is flush with returning starters.

 

[Marshall2323]

Typical gibberish from you. You have your redundant points you like to make and you make them whether or not they actually fit with what somebody else has said.
Good luck to your Hokies this season.

Good luck to the CyLions

 

[Marshall2323]

More redundant gibberish. Literally redundant as you already posted a response to this to two posts up from this one.

Using the word redundant in consecutive sentences is ...... somewhat superfluous. LOL

 

[PSU4U]

ND is loading up on offensive linemen. They just flipped a kid from UCLA. That already had a commitment from two other OL players including Halter, a four star OT from Pittsburgh Central Catholic, who is the fourth ranked player in PA. In addition, they just got a commitment from the #1 player in NJ, a five star OT. Now, they are the favorites to land the #1 player in DE who was previously committed to PSU. They aren’t messing around.

I didn't think it were possible for me to hate Neuter Dome more but after reading this I do.

 

[bdgan]

Irrelevant. Some if tge players you listed were not starters either. Did Granvill play a down?

I shouldn't have included Granville on my list but word was he would have started if not for injury.

That doesn't change my point which is that we lost a lot of starters from 2025 and we lost most our entire 2026 class in the portal. We had an extremely depleted roster except for the Iowa State transfers. They should help make us competitive this fall but many are seniors and the 65th ranked 2026 recruiting class isn't close to what we need to be competitive in 2027. For that to happen PSU is going to need a lot of portal help.

 

[PSUFTG]

As of today, the PSU recruiting class is a bit over 1/2 way completed.
The average quality (as per the "recruiting gurus") is 87.65. As classes fill out across the country - barring PSU's quality among the later part of the class increases substantially - it will be a 25ish ranked class nationally (And middle of the pack in the Big Ten. That is just "math")

Those are about the only "facts" available.
People can think what they want about how meaningful recruiting rankings are - they can certainly choose to think high school recruiting is very important - or not important at all. But those are "feelings", which are worthless (except to the person whose feelings they are). And in most cases, one's feelings change by the minute, depending on whatever allows them to think things are super-duper (or, in some cases. non-super-duper).


But the facts are that this is on track to be PSU's worst recruiting class in some time..... aside from last year, which was just about on par with this year, and the 2021 fiasco, which was also just about on par with this year in quality. 2021 was a 17 person class - of which only 4 made impactful on field contributions (the King brothers, and the safety duo of Wheatley and Reed)

Does high school recruiting matter anymore? YMMV - most people probably reasonably think it is somewhat less important than in the past, due to the proliferation of the "portal". But, to the degree that it is still impactful, this one - from on objective read - is not nearly on track with PSU's historical standards or what is necessary (if it becomes the norm) to be consistently competitive in the Big Ten.

Time will tell.

 

[bdgan]

ND is loading up on offensive linemen. They just flipped a kid from UCLA. That already had a commitment from two other OL players including Halter, a four star OT from Pittsburgh Central Catholic, who is the fourth ranked player in PA. In addition, they just got a commitment from the #1 player in NJ, a five star OT. Now, they are the favorites to land the #1 player in DE who was previously committed to PSU. They aren’t messing around.

 

[bdgan]

I wish our donors had a problem with Indiana winning the national championship

FWIW this link says PSU is #11 and ND is #23 in NIL collective spending

NIL Tracker 2026 | NIL Spending by School — All 283 D1 Programs Ranked | The Sideline

 

[Nits1989]

As of today, the PSU recruiting class is a bit over 1/2 way completed.
The average quality (as per the "recruiting gurus") is 87.65. As classes fill out across the country - barring PSU's quality among the later part of the class increases substantially - it will be a 25ish ranked class nationally (And middle of the pack in the Big Ten. That is just "math")

Those are about the only "facts" available.
People can think what they want about how meaningful recruiting rankings are - they can certainly choose to think high school recruiting is very important - or not important at all. But those are "feelings", which are worthless (except to the person whose feelings they are). And in most cases, one's feelings change by the minute, depending on whatever allows them to think things are super-duper (or, in some cases. non-super-duper).


But the facts are that this is on track to be PSU's worst recruiting class in some time..... aside from last year, which was just about on par with this year, and the 2021 fiasco, which was also just about on par with this year in quality. 2021 was a 17 person class - of which only 4 made impactful on field contributions (the King brothers, and the safety duo of Wheatley and Reed)

Does high school recruiting matter anymore? YMMV - most people probably reasonably think it is somewhat less important than in the past, due to the proliferation of the "portal". But, to the degree that it is still impactful, this one - from on objective read - is not nearly on track with PSU's historical standards or what is necessary (if it becomes the norm) to be consistently competitive in the Big Ten.

Time will tell.

Maybe I’m foolish, but with money ruling recruiting, why do we still assume that other teams with fewer recruits but higher average rating per recruit will continue to fill their classes with higher rated recruits? Why is that the assumption? Why do we not consider that they might have to take more lower rated recruits due to cost issues?

 

[bdgan]

The QB RB WR TE etc. all played for Campbell and the OC last year. This offense is flush with returning starters.

I'm talking about 2027. Becht, Hansen, Sowell, Brahmer, and Bacon were very good and much needed additions that should give PSU a chance at a good 2026 season. The problem is they're all seniors and the 2026 recruiting class was ranked 17th in the BiG.

 

[LB99]

FWIW this link says PSU is #11 and ND is #23 in NIL collective spending

NIL Tracker 2026 | NIL Spending by School — All 283 D1 Programs Ranked | The Sideline

I don’t believe that for a second. ND is spending money like they are printing it.

 

[pendal1]

I don’t believe that for a second. ND is spending money like they are printing it.

Exactly. And Dabo said the same thing.

 

[RyanSnyder]

 

[RolexKong]

FWIW this link says PSU is #11 and ND is #23 in NIL collective spending

NIL Tracker 2026 | NIL Spending by School — All 283 D1 Programs Ranked | The Sideline

It's worth little to nothing. No one has an accurate fix. Doubtless there are schools who don't even know what "NIL spending" is for their program.

 

[rigi19041]

He will look good in a PSU unifor.

 

[Corner Room Breakfast]

Exactly. And Dabo said the same thing.

ND is getting the ACC up in arms and their is no immediate fix.

As long as they are independent money is no object, to add insult
to injury, most of ND's recruits are on the Atlantic Coast. Fla, Ga,
NC, and NJ.

 

[rigi19041]

As of today, the PSU recruiting class is a bit over 1/2 way completed.
The average quality (as per the "recruiting gurus") is 87.65. As classes fill out across the country - barring PSU's quality among the later part of the class increases substantially - it will be a 25ish ranked class nationally (And middle of the pack in the Big Ten. That is just "math")

Those are about the only "facts" available.
People can think what they want about how meaningful recruiting rankings are - they can certainly choose to think high school recruiting is very important - or not important at all. But those are "feelings", which are worthless (except to the person whose feelings they are). And in most cases, one's feelings change by the minute, depending on whatever allows them to think things are super-duper (or, in some cases. non-super-duper).


But the facts are that this is on track to be PSU's worst recruiting class in some time..... aside from last year, which was just about on par with this year, and the 2021 fiasco, which was also just about on par with this year in quality. 2021 was a 17 person class - of which only 4 made impactful on field contributions (the King brothers, and the safety duo of Wheatley and Reed)

Does high school recruiting matter anymore? YMMV - most people probably reasonably think it is somewhat less important than in the past, due to the proliferation of the "portal". But, to the degree that it is still impactful, this one - from on objective read - is not nearly on track with PSU's historical standards or what is necessary (if it becomes the norm) to be consistently competitive in the Big Ten.

Time will tell.

Your projections are facts???? Yea, wrong.



Psu will be higher than 25th.

The fact is both rivals and 247 add points for quantity in team rankings. If two teams have the same exact 20 recruits with an average of 88.1234 and one team then adds 15 more 3*s who have an average ranking of 87.0 The team with 15 extra recruits does NOT lose ground.

 

[DaytonRickster]

I shouldn't have included Granville on my list but word was he would have started if not for injury.

That doesn't change my point which is that we lost a lot of starters from 2025 and we lost most our entire 2026 class in the portal. We had an extremely depleted roster except for the Iowa State transfers. They should help make us competitive this fall but many are seniors and the 65th ranked 2026 recruiting class isn't close to what we need to be competitive in 2027. For that to happen PSU is going to need a lot of portal help.

Agree PSU will need lots of portal help the next few years because of the 2026 class issues.

 

[DaytonRickster]

FWIW this link says PSU is #11 and ND is #23 in NIL collective spending

NIL Tracker 2026 | NIL Spending by School — All 283 D1 Programs Ranked | The Sideline

Then what is the "secret sauce" for ND's recruiting success? They have to be spending much more than that published amount.

 

[LionsAndBears]

I'm thinking that part of why we turned to Wood instead of Bourque was because we knew that we were going to have to go out and get a 7 figure QB in the Transfer Portal next year.