2027 Recruiting Thread

LionsAndBears

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Interesting. Always good to read other perspectives.

I agree. I'm not trying to bash a kid. Clearly the staff knows more than me and if they want him, I trust their professional evaluation.

If we get Wood in this class I will be his biggest fan but if the staff chooses to look in other directions for the QB in this class, I'd be good with that too.
 
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Blair10

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Doesn't anyone find it odd that Tennessee has not offered this kid. That is the one I just do not get.

Tennessee is recruiting from the same pool and caliber of WRs as Ohio State. They have at least 2 WRs much higher on their board than Jamir Dean.
 

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Didn’t he have multiple pick 6s in one of the games at the shoe also?

Didn’t he have multiple pick 6s in one of the games at the shoe also?
It was the same game. tOSU had been playing a zone which had a soft spot behind the corner and in front of the safety. Late in the game, tOSU started dropping the corner back into the soft spot. Anthony didn't pick it up and ended up throwing 2 pick-sixes. The first one was on Anthony. Jay Paterno had some responsibility on the second since he called the same play after the first pick-six, Still Anthony did not pick up the rotation.
 
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PSUForever

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I just can't see the Bourque thing happening now nor would I be willing to wait him out - lock Will Wood up and start building the skill positions around him.

EDIT: FWIW, sounds like (as of this week), the staff is prioritizing Wood and trying to lock him up with an in-home visit later this week. I think Bourque poking around everywhere + they see a better schematic fit are the driving factors. Let's get this one done.
Totally agree. Close hard on Will Wood! Bourque shopping around is a big turn off. He is not that interested in us. Plus I have a bad feeling it would be Drew Allar all over again struggling in an ill fitting system. I have a bias for mobile QBs and Wood fits this.
 
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PSUForever

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Sure. He was the product of a system/superior athletes. Watched him in person a few times ... not impressive. If you watch his tape, he floats a lot of balls that his superior WRs (compared to the DBs who are covering them) go get. Those throws won't play at the next level (easily defended by competent DBs). Doesn't have great athleticism or arm strength to make top level college throws on a regular basis. He's not as good at Xaverian as Henry Hasselbeck was, and Hasselbeck is a mess (washed out at UCLA after many commits/decommits during his HS recruitment process and is now at App St). Saw Bourque a bunch at CM, before he transferred to Tabor, and even though he also benefitted from superior athletes, he made the plays a college level guy would make ... and then he continued to perform when he went to Tabor, where everyone he was playing with and against was "recruited," so the talent levels evened out. He may or may not pan out, but he has a better shot than Wood at the P4 level.
Thank you Nostradamus.
 

PSUForever

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Morelli was plan B for missing out on Henne. Wood, it appears, is plan C for missing out on Mencl and Borque.
We don't know what will happen but the reality is Bourque is not that interested in us so we have moved on to Wood. Wood is now a 4 star so the experts see something there. He also is mobile and Campbell's system fits with mobile QBs. Bourque is not that mobile, a fact these Wood haters conveniently omit.
You read these posts in this thread from these armchair scouts and you would think Wood can't throw it 20 yards.
 

LionsAndBears

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We don't know what will happen but the reality is Bourque is not that interested in us so we have moved on to Wood.

There could be many reasons why Bourque is taking his time to make a commitment. I wouldn't assume that it's due to a lack of interest. NIL has changed QB recruiting more than any other position. These kids are making life altering decisions due to the 7 figure deals they're commanding. For all we know Bourque could be favoring PSU but holding off on a commitment until after compensation is negotiated.
 

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We don't know what will happen but the reality is Bourque is not that interested in us so we have moved on to Wood. Wood is now a 4 star so the experts see something there. He also is mobile and Campbell's system fits with mobile QBs. Bourque is not that mobile, a fact these Wood haters conveniently omit.
You read these posts in this thread from these armchair scouts and you would think Wood can't throw it 20 yards.
There may be a lot of truth in what you say but I still want Bourque and Wood. Likely? Probably not.

I wouldn't scratch Bourque just yet but if he does go elsewhere, I really like Wood for reasons stated. His arm is plenty strong enough and his accuracy is good. IMO Wood has a pretty big upside.
 
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LMTLION

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There could be many reasons why Bourque is taking his time to make a commitment. I wouldn't assume that it's due to a lack of interest. NIL has changed QB recruiting more than any other position. These kids are making life altering decisions due to the 7 figure deals they're commanding. For all we know Bourque could be favoring PSU but holding off on a commitment until after compensation is negotiated.
Bourque and Mencl share the same agent. Mencl got paid by a blank check school. Even in crazy college football, there are only a handful of such schools that have that ability. Bourque likely wants the same money because the two are rated about the same on the recruiting services. According to this guy, he may have overplayed his hand….
 

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Bourque and Mencl share the same agent. Mencl got paid by a blank check school. Even in crazy college football, there are only a handful of such schools that have that ability. Bourque likely wants the same money because the two are rated about the same on the recruiting services. According to this guy, he may have overplayed his hand….


I'm not gonna make any judgements on what Bad Rad Brad writes. LOL
 
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Steelhead52

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I agree. I'm not trying to bash a kid. Clearly the staff knows more than me and if they want him, I trust their professional evaluation.

If we get Wood in this class I will be his biggest fan but if the staff chooses to look in other directions for the QB in this class, I'd be good with that too.

Sure. He was the product of a system/superior athletes. Watched him in person a few times ... not impressive. If you watch his tape, he floats a lot of balls that his superior WRs (compared to the DBs who are covering them) go get. Those throws won't play at the next level (easily defended by competent DBs). Doesn't have great athleticism or arm strength to make top level college throws on a regular basis. He's not as good at Xaverian as Henry Hasselbeck was, and Hasselbeck is a mess (washed out at UCLA after many commits/decommits during his HS recruitment process and is now at App St). Saw Bourque a bunch at CM, before he transferred to Tabor, and even though he also benefitted from superior athletes, he made the plays a college level guy would make ... and then he continued to perform when he went to Tabor, where everyone he was playing with and against was "recruited," so the talent levels evened out. He may or may not pan out, but he has a better shot than Wood at the P4 level.
I was only a backup QB in HS. I could run but had a pop gun arm so I'm no expert for sure. But the more I watched Wood's highlights the more impressed I became. Yes he has some nice athletes to throw to but his ability to throw an extremely catchable ball was key. Not only did he put great touch on the ball but he threw it where only his receiver was going to get it. It wasn't only his long balls that were impressive. His ability to throw on the run and maintain field vision was exceptional and he has that feel that so many strong armed guys don't have. He doesn't force many balls. His ability to throw on the run was uncanny. He sees the field really, really well and doesn't make bad throws. You can say what you want about his deep balls not working at the P4 level but I think you are really off base. I mean 1 interception to me says it all. He sees the field, he has the touch and feel, and he has the athleticism to move the pocket and make great throws with a lot of moving parts. I'm also not sure why you are questioning his athleticism. He looks super athletic to me. The other key was his on field leadership. He seemed to always know where his playmakers were and their communication was evident. I really think Woods really fits what Campbell is looking for in a QB. I don't think he will end up as a 3 star guy if that makes any difference. I do appreciate your knowledge and insights, I just think you are underestimating this kid.
 

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I was only a backup QB in HS. I could run but had a pop gun arm so I'm no expert for sure. But the more I watched Wood's highlights the more impressed I became. Yes he has some nice athletes to throw to but his ability to throw an extremely catchable ball was key. Not only did he put great touch on the ball but he threw it where only his receiver was going to get it. It wasn't only his long balls that were impressive. His ability to throw on the run and maintain field vision was exceptional and he has that feel that so many strong armed guys don't have. He doesn't force many balls. His ability to throw on the run was uncanny. He sees the field really, really well and doesn't make bad throws. You can say what you want about his deep balls not working at the P4 level but I think you are really off base. I mean 1 interception to me says it all. He sees the field, he has the touch and feel, and he has the athleticism to move the pocket and make great throws with a lot of moving parts. I'm also not sure why you are questioning his athleticism. He looks super athletic to me. The other key was his on field leadership. He seemed to always know where his playmakers were and their communication was evident. I really think Woods really fits what Campbell is looking for in a QB. I don't think he will end up as a 3 star guy if that makes any difference. I do appreciate your knowledge and insights, I just think you are underestimating this kid.
There are definitely PSU insiders out there who have Wood ahead of Bourque as a prospect despite the rating. I personally do not know who is the better prospect and would take both if we could, but I am not sure we could afford Bourque himself let alone both. I’m actually not convinced QB recruiting is even a big deal nowadays with the transfer portal as that is the model that won the last two natties.
 
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PSU89er

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Tennessee is recruiting from the same pool and caliber of WRs as Ohio State. They have at least 2 WRs much higher on their board than Jamir Dean.

1.) I dont think Tennessee or anyone else looks at a kid and says. How does he rate? Either they like the kid or they don't
2.) Often offers are conditional, "we like you, but you should also be looking around, and make sure you like us" I believe we call this "slow playing."
3.) TOS shows Tennessee with 46 offers out to WRs, about half of which rate lower than Dean. I'm sure lot of those offers aren't commitable, but it says they didn't even view Dean as a fall back option type of kid.
4.) Everything about Dean based on his track times and his basketball skills says serious athlete. He appears to be a prime candidate for a kid that is underated in the rating system.
5.) Tennessee would know of this kid well ahead of everyone else, and hes a top 20 rated kid in Tennessee.

I find it really odd they didn't offer him, and if the thought process is UT is only really going after high profile kids that are a step beyond what PSU can get. Well, we are going head to head for them on Deshawn Hall along with Auburn and Bama, and I don't think he is as high on our board Taylor is, so it isn't like they are only pursuing 5 star kids.
 

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1.) I dont think Tennessee or anyone else looks at a kid and says. How does he rate? Either they like the kid or they don't
2.) Often offers are conditional, "we like you, but you should also be looking around, and make sure you like us" I believe we call this "slow playing."
3.) TOS shows Tennessee with 46 offers out to WRs, about half of which rate lower than Dean. I'm sure lot of those offers aren't commitable, but it says they didn't even view Dean as a fall back option type of kid.
4.) Everything about Dean based on his track times and his basketball skills says serious athlete. He appears to be a prime candidate for a kid that is underated in the rating system.
5.) Tennessee would know of this kid well ahead of everyone else, and hes a top 20 rated kid in Tennessee.

I find it really odd they didn't offer him, and if the thought process is UT is only really going after high profile kids that are a step beyond what PSU can get. Well, we are going head to head for them on Deshawn Hall along with Auburn and Bama, and I don't think he is as high on our board Taylor is, so it isn't like they are only pursuing 5 star kids.


Is it odd that Campbell didn't offer PA top 10 kids?
 

LB99

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We don't know what will happen but the reality is Bourque is not that interested in us so we have moved on to Wood. Wood is now a 4 star so the experts see something there. He also is mobile and Campbell's system fits with mobile QBs. Bourque is not that mobile, a fact these Wood haters conveniently omit.
You read these posts in this thread from these armchair scouts and you would think Wood can't throw it 20 yards.
Aren’t we all armchair scouts on here?
 

PSU89er

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Is it odd that Campbell didn't offer PA top 10 kids?
Id say yes, but I accept it because its seems to mean that his staff sees some sort of problem with the kid. Maybe I'll be wrong, but I'd be surprised if Dean is a top250 kid before the rating system is done. He wasn't rated all that long ago, and at a high 3 star, he looks underrated. He has freak numbers.

Also, according to this site. PSU did offer the top 10 kids in PA, though some of those could have been the old staff. I doubt MC offered Halter, what would have been the sense.

Normally, if PSU didn't offer a high rated PA kid, there was a problem with the kid, and often when PSU offered a PA kid and you are looking at his rating saying. Why are they going after that? Six months later the rating system often showed why they were going after the kid.
 

Blair10

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1.) I dont think Tennessee or anyone else looks at a kid and says. How does he rate? Either they like the kid or they don't
2.) Often offers are conditional, "we like you, but you should also be looking around, and make sure you like us" I believe we call this "slow playing."
3.) TOS shows Tennessee with 46 offers out to WRs, about half of which rate lower than Dean. I'm sure lot of those offers aren't commitable, but it says they didn't even view Dean as a fall back option type of kid.
4.) Everything about Dean based on his track times and his basketball skills says serious athlete. He appears to be a prime candidate for a kid that is underated in the rating system.
5.) Tennessee would know of this kid well ahead of everyone else, and hes a top 20 rated kid in Tennessee.

I find it really odd they didn't offer him, and if the thought process is UT is only really going after high profile kids that are a step beyond what PSU can get. Well, we are going head to head for them on Deshawn Hall along with Auburn and Bama, and I don't think he is as high on our board Taylor is, so it isn't like they are only pursuing 5 star kids.

Tennessee is planning to take 3-4 WRs in their 2027 class.

They have already received a commitment from top 10 WR KeSean Bowman (94.22 rated 4-star). Bowman was previously committed to Oregon before the Vols flipped him.

Tennessee is in the top five for top 10 WR Osani Gayles from IMG Academy (94.40 rated 4-star).

Tennessee is also in the recent top 10 list for WR/Athlete Tae Walden Jr (93.69 rated 4-star).

Just for comparison purposes, Penn State’s 4-star rated WR recruit Khalil Taylor has a 92.96 rating by On3.

Talent evaluations are very subjective and each P4 school has their own process. Again, this is no disrespect to Jamir Dean.
 
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PSU89er

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Sounds like it will be VT
It almost has to be PSU or VT unless he's gotten more cash promised by someone recent and the contact has been quite. With the way things were going. I figured he was going to end up at Auburn. I think they would be willing to give more than PSU/VT.

Funny thing about all this is when he committed to Michigan over PSU (amoug others), I'm sure I read that he wanted an offense that wasn't as dependant on the QB run as a standard part of the offense. IF it is coming back to PSU and VT, both like to run the QB some. Lord knows I saw too many QB draws with Allar over the last couple of years.
 

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I'm thinking it is PSU for Borque. Psu forced his hand when they offered Wood.


The opposite with Van brant. PSU is not getting Van brant and psu then offered Tarawallie who is not getting RPMs to PSU.

All speculation.

Did Anita Paiva commit?
 

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I'm thinking it is PSU for Borque. Psu forced his hand when they offered Wood.


The opposite with Van brant. PSU is not getting Van brant and psu then offered Tarawallie who is not getting RPMs to PSU.

All speculation.

I mean, maybe VT offers a big bag and next year one of his preferred schools comes calling for whatever reason. Everything is year to year now so kinda doesn't matter unless someone is going to play him as a freshman.


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All I can find is that PSU, Georgia, and VT will have in-homes with Bourque prior to the decision.

But I guess if Will Wood commits this week, we'd just drop out of the race?
 

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On X saying he really like's O'brien and the VT offer-take it for what it is worth, Will see soon.
Comments on X from a recruit. IF he commits to VT, it means something. If he doesn't it was meaningless.

Mekia Brown left his PSU visit talking about how great the new culture was at PSU, he talked about the staffs attention to detail and how they cared about players. This was about a week before he committed to USC.
 
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LMTLION

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I'm thinking it is PSU for Borque. Psu forced his hand when they offered Wood.


The opposite with Van brant. PSU is not getting Van brant and psu then offered Tarawallie who is not getting RPMs to PSU.

All speculation.

Did Anita Paiva commit?
I predict James throws him the bag and showcases his trophy recruit over PSU. But the news is all over the place with this guy, including Georgia insiders thinking he’s coming to PSU. Unfortunately Wood is getting a lot of attention right now too. Recruiting is just insane these days because it’s partially an auction.
 

rigi19041

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I mean, maybe VT offers a big bag and next year one of his preferred schools comes calling for whatever reason. Everything is year to year now so kinda doesn't matter unless someone is going to play him as a freshman.


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Kind Of does matter when psu QBs have thrown 0 combined passes at psu.

Starter is coming off an injury and the backup is hurt. Last 3 PSU backup QBs transferred. I think it gives the freshman qbs a better chance to play.

Teams.like missouri last year needed their freshman qb to start.
 
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