#1 seed
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At worst we will be the 2nd 2 seed, which is just fine for me.
Per usual, Cal is setting us up for yet another feasible FF Run.
Amazing time to be a Cats fan
Edit- This is based off the notion we won’t have an epic collapse... which I guess is always possible
Per usual, Cal is setting us up for yet another feasible FF Run.
Amazing time to be a Cats fan
Edit- This is based off the notion we won’t have an epic collapse... which I guess is always possible
We passed the second test.. First was UNC/UofL and then MisdSt/Auburn/KU.. Lot of people thought we wouldn't win those games.
At this point, @Tennessee is really the only uphill battle left. Every other game kentucky should be favored.
But we do have to win those games. SEC won't have two #1 seeds.
At this point, @Tennessee is really the only uphill battle left. Every other game kentucky should be favored.
But we do have to win those games. SEC won't have two #1 seeds.
They certainly don't have much room for error. But if they finish with only 1 loss... Gonna be tough to put teams with 3-4 losses higher than them.
Thankfully, I think Nevada will drop a road game or two. Don't think they'll be in play for a 1-seed. It's gonna be 1 of Duke/UVA, gonzaga, and 1 of Kentucky/tenn... No one from the Big12 or pac12..
I like Kentucky's chances with Tennessee, they seem to be on the lucky side of things, ehi h is something we've been on the wrong side of. Kentucky should probably be ahead of Tennessee...
I think pretty much UK and teams ranked ahead of UK has a chance to be #1 seed.
Duke and Virginia still has to play each other again. So you never know, combined with random loss and road losses, they can quickly drop in ranking.
Michigan and Michigan State also plays each other soon.
UK and Tennessee.
So there is a lot of overlapping top 6 teams that can hurt each other. Each of these six teams control their own destiny by winning their conference. UK might be slightly harder since UT is probably better than some of the top 5 teams and also we have one bad conference loss.
I think its logical to expect that SEC, ACC, and BIG Ten will each send #1 seed. Gonzaga/Nevada probably get 1 spot. Ofcourse SEC, ACC, and BIG Ten can kill each other off too..
So right now its really too early to make a 1 seed prediction. We all have a chance. We just have to keep winning and i like our changes to be 1 seed.
Duke and Virginia still has to play each other again. So you never know, combined with random loss and road losses, they can quickly drop in ranking.
Michigan and Michigan State also plays each other soon.
UK and Tennessee.
So there is a lot of overlapping top 6 teams that can hurt each other. Each of these six teams control their own destiny by winning their conference. UK might be slightly harder since UT is probably better than some of the top 5 teams and also we have one bad conference loss.
I think its logical to expect that SEC, ACC, and BIG Ten will each send #1 seed. Gonzaga/Nevada probably get 1 spot. Ofcourse SEC, ACC, and BIG Ten can kill each other off too..
So right now its really too early to make a 1 seed prediction. We all have a chance. We just have to keep winning and i like our changes to be 1 seed.
Zero quad wins and 30 point loss to a quad three / four team.
Houston has a better shot at a 2 seed.
"kentucky should probably be ahead of TN?" i certainly hope you are talking about pending later results that you predict...
if saying currently then please pass the bong.
kentucky now playing really good basketball and the matchup against TN should be great. honestly if they both win all games not against the other then i'd still say they have a decent shot at a 1 seed due to a lot of other quality wins they would have with sec having some really food teams in the top 5 or so.
nevada isn't getting a 1 unless a bunch of other teams lose games against low level conference teams.
i think duke and uva get 1's and
tn/ky/michigan/michigan state/gonzaga battle for other 2 1seeds with nevada and kansas battling for last #2 seed
They have 1 quad 1 win and almost no shot at even getting another shot at adding to that. They could win every game by 100 and they won’t get a 1. Lucky to get a 2 honestly
Gives us zero margin for error. UK should have 1 loss now and could lose @UT, @MSU and some other random game like @FL, @Vandy or @Ole Miss and probably get a 1 seed with a 30-4 record going into tournament. Now we probably have to win out other than @UT.
In record? I absolutely think Tennessee could/should have the same record, or possibly worse. They were gifted a win at Vandy, they didn't have Duke to open the season.. didn't have two buzzer beats for losses against teams that played out of their mind.
I'm not neccesarily saying Kentucky is better, I'm not sure on that. Just saying that it seems Tenn has gotten some luck their way and Kentucky has had, well the opposite.
I also think THIS iteration of Kentucky probably has 1 loss if they played all season. Guys like Bone and Schofield aren't getting much better as upper classmen, where as Kentucky is improving leaps and bound simply because of how young they are.
Basically, I don't think the records tell the story. I don't think Tenn is inherently better just cause we have two more losses.
Tenn is not a lock for #1 seed lmfao. And MSU just literally lost for the 3rd time like an hour ago.
I know you're super salty over the loss yesterday but don't let that cloud your judgement. Kentucky gets Tenn at Rupp first which plays to our advantage. If they beat Tenn both times they will not be a #1 seed, because Kentucky probably takes it from them.
could/should... but doesn't... by the way we beat gonzaga after they beat duke
bone isn't getting much better? you obviously haven't watched many UT games this year compared to last year... bone is a lot better this year than last year.
averaging 6.5 assist a game compared to 3.4 last year, 6 more pts/game.
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UCLA got a 3 seed because that's all that team deserved.
They played an awful out of conference schedule that year and the Pac12 outside of Oregon and Arizona was awful as well.
They got the seed they should have gotten.
Not sure it's wise to bring up a 2nd removed game as any sort of reference. How about the team we both played?
It's not that guys on Tennesee CAN'T improve.. it's that freshman just grow at a higher rate.
Tennesee hasn't gotten much better as the season went on. They are known players. Kentucky meanwhile, went from a team some thought was NIT bound to now just outside the top5. And they're getting better.
We've yet to have the type of "gimme" that the Vols got. You're not 2 losses better than us, and the line will show that in the coming weeks.
kentucky if they keeping playing good basketball will be a two see
NIT Bound? kentucky was preseason #1 or 2 and predicted to win SEC. i don't think anybody thought they would be NIT bound
We have some unreasonable fans.
Those were the ones that thought we were an NIT team.
But yeah.........no it was never that bad lol
Those were the ones that thought we were an NIT team.
But yeah.........no it was never that bad lol
We could still have 2-3 surprising losses. I'll be happy as hell if we secure a 2 seed when all is said and done.
Sign me up for a 2 in the Midwest with Michigan. Here is the thing to think about in the Midwest, that is almost home court for Kansas and Mich St won’t be in same bracket as Michigan. It is highly likely UK will end up there.
Why? He's right.
Nevada's best win this year in the NET ratings is Utah St. They'll get them again, maybe twice, but winning 3 games against the #40 team does not a make a team a 1 seed. Nevada forfeited any potential for that with the New Mexico loss, and will be lucky to get a 2 seed (and won't be anywhere near that if they lose again).
MAYBE, if the NET rating had Nevada way up there for whatever reason, they could overcome their schedule, but they're sitting at 17 right now. That's a 5 seed.
People are jumping the gun with all of this. The top teams have 4 to 6 conference road games left, and then we'll get conference tournaments. There's A LOT that will change over the next month.
Here are the road schedules for Va, Duke, Michigan, Mich St, and UT.
Va- NC St, UNC, Va Tech, UL, Syracuse
Duke- Notre Dame, Va, UL, Syracuse, Va Tech, UNC
Michigan- Iowa, Rutgers, Penn St., Minn, Maryland, Mich St
Mich St.- Illinois, Wisc, Michigan, IU,
UT- SCar, Tex A&M, UK, LSU, Ole Miss, Auburn
Top 4 teams in the final AP poll last January: Villanova, Virginia, Purdue, Duke.
2017: Gonzaga, Baylor, Kansas, Villanova
16: Oklahoma, UNC, Villanova, Maryland
Odds are that the 1 seeds will NOT be all 4 of UT, Duke, Virginia, and Gonzaga.
I think we HAVE to be ahead of Michigan St now. They lost to U6 and Kansas. two team we have beat.
Nevada - one slip costs them
dUKe / UVA - only on of them get it
Gozaga - will get one barring a major meltdown
Michigan - No really major wins (UNC and Nova are it). Two games with MSU and the Big 10 tournament should equal more losses. And they are bound to drop a road game or two in these close ones.
Tennessee - we match up well with them. PJ outplayed Williams at their place until he cramped up last year. I don't see that changing. Especially since he is so focused now. They, like Michigan, will slip in some of these close wins soon.
Sum it up, I think we have a GREAT shot at a 1 seed and should be in the discussion now.
When it all Ends up 1 seeds are:
Gonzaga (Anaheim)
Duke (DC)
UK (KC)
MSU (Louisville [You know they won't give us Louisville no matter what])
Nevada - one slip costs them
dUKe / UVA - only on of them get it
Gozaga - will get one barring a major meltdown
Michigan - No really major wins (UNC and Nova are it). Two games with MSU and the Big 10 tournament should equal more losses. And they are bound to drop a road game or two in these close ones.
Tennessee - we match up well with them. PJ outplayed Williams at their place until he cramped up last year. I don't see that changing. Especially since he is so focused now. They, like Michigan, will slip in some of these close wins soon.
Sum it up, I think we have a GREAT shot at a 1 seed and should be in the discussion now.
When it all Ends up 1 seeds are:
Gonzaga (Anaheim)
Duke (DC)
UK (KC)
MSU (Louisville [You know they won't give us Louisville no matter what])
not disagreeing with your assessment as i think you are correct in most of it in my opinion but does kentucky not have any slip ups also?
Not sure why people think the Zags are a lock for a 1 here when hardly anyone is picking them for a 1 seed
http://www.bracketmatrix.com/
http://www.bracketmatrix.com/
I thought he was talking about the cats only having 1 quadrant 1 win... if he’s talking about Neveda that’s a different story
I don't really think it matters if Gonzaga is a 1 or 2, they are prob going to the West regardless.
Prob right.
But one way it matters is say Zags are a 1 seed and UK is a 2 seed..........all regions are open.
But say Zags were also a 2 seed......well they would go West and that would give us a higher likelihood in theory of going South.
Yeah, if Gonzaga is a 2 and TN is a one in the South, we are basically talking about East or Midwest for UK, so 50/50 of Duke final 8 matchup. The only positive is Mich St. and Kansas prob wouldn't go Midwest with Michigan.
Yep.....prob even greater chance we'd go MW in that scenario simply based on the fact MSU couldn't.
That's why three things matter 1) where we are at on whatever seed line we get 2) who else is on that line and 3) if any other SEC teams have been placed already, what region they are in.
Yeah I'm not sure on his logic for that.
I have a hard time thinking that currently Duke or Virginia isn't going East.
Maybe he's just projecting what he thinks is going to happen.
I am speaking more to the fact that a team as dangerous as UK (or 2017 UCLA, they were touted as title contenders) being put into another well deserving teams bracket because the selection committee does a bad job every year. Look at Knight's team as a 4 seed, or when UK was an 8 seed and had a second round match up with Wichita State. I can totally see this happening again because the committee won't look at our wins over KU and UNC, but see how UK got blasted it's first game out.
Definitely, I forgot that earlier. I was assuming 1 more loss and a SECT title. I think the slip ups (SH and Bama) have already happened. I like the focus we have.