#1 in the state?
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Didn’t Marist get significantly hit with the injury bug this year? I also don’t think Marist would want to move down in divisions. They are up for the challenge.
I have watched several ESL & MC games this year and have voiced my opinion on both teams
Providing that both teams play their best games
I will take MC in this match up
Providing that both teams play their best games
I will take MC in this match up
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THIS year
I don’t think that ESL matches up well with MC
I say that with the utmost respect towards ESL and what the coaches do with those kids
I don’t think that ESL matches up well with MC
I say that with the utmost respect towards ESL and what the coaches do with those kids
I tried settling this argument back on page #1 but it didn't work.
Here are the top 5 in Illinois, deal with it.
1) Wilmington
2) Mt Carmel
3) Brother Rice
4) ESL
5) Byron
Yes! Yes! My point exactly!
If I have never been invited to, or visited your kitchen, how could I ever rate you in the top 5 kitchens, let alone #1.
How can you have any pudding if you don't beat yer meat?
All in all, you're just another brick in the (football) wall.
They are in division 3 currently but believe in the new system they are being forced in 1.
Where they belong. I’m not saying you’re wrong, I’m sure you are right and I’m wrong but how do you know they’re in the 3rd division?
What is this like New York, New York? A city so nice, you have to say it twice?
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He is just trolling. Trying to get the old faithfuls going. Not falling for it though.
Trolling… ESL runs 70% of the time
THIS year I believe that MC is better
LAST year I woukd have easily picked ESL
all out weird!Not that either team can prove it, it’s just interesting that their announcers swear that they are. Like, if they say it enough, everyone will just get on board with it. ESL never openly makes that claim. Just all out weird….
Tuccs - it’s nice to read this again. Well done, sir.
Can you re-run these calcs?
Revised Calculations:
Mt. Carmel = 8 - 0 + .4 = 8.4 points
East St. Louis = 6 - 1 + 0 = 5.0 points
Mt. Carmel should be considered the best team in the state.
This was an irresponsible post.The MC announcers keep saying MC is #1. When did that happen?
I understand backing your team no matter what
but ESL doesn’t have a mid level passing game against a good defensive play calling coach
you can’t be #1 in the state if you can’t air the ball out
but ESL doesn’t have a mid level passing game against a good defensive play calling coach
you can’t be #1 in the state if you can’t air the ball out
In this game, they had 158 yards passing compared to 155. Shanklin has 17 completions or 27 attempts, but 2 ints. Not bad, Not great.
Because I am still feeling generous I will leave ESL in the top 12 of Illinois behind the state champs in all 8 classes and Naz and CC.
Naz making a case now with 2 good losses.
How do quality losses work? More points for the more you have or for the less you have? That’s what we have to figure out because no one can come close to the 4 quality losses ESL has including Fenwick as they only have 3 quality losses to the Flyers 4.
Using the same standards as the college football playoff committee, quality losses carry weight!!!!!
Just a thought so no need to pile on.
Do they really care that much about the winning 6A state championship? Or do they care more about their national schedule and how they perform against those teams and are perceived nationally? Because if they cared they would have given the ball to Cook 30 times and won, IMO. Almost like they don't have that "last game of the year do anything to win mentality". Example. in 5A the announcers kept harping on SF for not giving the ball to RB but why? What they were doing was working, last game of year do whatever you have to win...
To add, I don't care, they can run their program however they want.
Do they really care that much about the winning 6A state championship? Or do they care more about their national schedule and how they perform against those teams and are perceived nationally? Because if they cared they would have given the ball to Cook 30 times and won, IMO. Almost like they don't have that "last game of the year do anything to win mentality". Example. in 5A the announcers kept harping on SF for not giving the ball to RB but why? What they were doing was working, last game of year do whatever you have to win...
To add, I don't care, they can run their program however they want.
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I kind of agree with this take. I bet if you asked ESL players and supporters they'd take a win over IMG over a state title.
I bet they’d be happy putting a double digit number of kids in college programs each year and lose both.
Yes, I agree they are hyper focused on that and good for them (I mean that sincerely). But last night wasn't putting a kid into college, they could have played it simple and won IMO.
I think they care, for sure but they definitely did not have any sense of urgency in my opinion. I don't think they had it all season. I saw some fight in our first game of the season but not much after that. We didn’t have a great showing against the National teams either and I felt we definitely could have played those games better. At the end of the day, the boys on the field will have to play the game. They have to want it more. The coaches do teach that. But just like in school, everyone doesn’t get an A on the test. Doesn’t necessarily mean the teacher didn’t do his or her job.
Didn't see the game but it sounds like mistakes hurt them more than the game plan. Cook had 26 carries for 183 and 2 TDs.
The field view of the big interception showed only MJC busting butt in pursuit. Not a good look, sadly. That is disappointing but as you said, kids!
This is REALLY what deserves the hat tip. I mean it 100% sincerely and have said it over and over again they are very good at what they do and that is take kids from an area that might otherwise get overlooked and get them to the next level.
How many lives have genuinely been changed because the ESL program exists? That’s truly what they do best.
That being said, last night was….oof!
They are just kids, I'll speak for myself but need to remember that at times.