Steve Jones says it's fixable

PSUFTG

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I have to see it to believe it. Just did some research on the recruiting classes of ISU. They continually ranked around 50th whereas PSU was around 15th. Looked at the transfers too. Infusion of 3 stars, and by the looks of things, coaching them up is not as easy as saying the words.

But I certainly hope it's fixable. Like to see the DT's rise up. The UCLA guys certainly should be motivated to play USC. The environment will be good unless they come out and get pushed around the first few drives.
BUT BUT BUT.....
"We had a TOP FIVE portal class!" According to the team media mutton heads, and those that cite their gospels. We CRUSHED IT in the portal. Or don't you remember? LOL.
 

m.knox

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BUT BUT BUT.....
"We had a TOP FIVE portal class!" According to the team media mutton heads, and those that cite their gospels. We CRUSHED IT in the portal. Or don't you remember? LOL.

If crushing it means getting a 3 deep depth chart, I suppose they crushed it.... lol...
 

Catch1lion

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I think this team can still get to 7-8 wins. Having your best player and most dynamic athlete back in a few weeks should help the offense come up with a better showing than they've had the past two weeks. The schedule is still weak, no matter how bad this team stinks.

It was unreasonable to think that this team was a playoff team in the preseason. I myself am also guilty of this. Mass departures, no signing class, hodgepodge transfer class. Half the team is made up of a middling BIG12 team from a season ago.

Year 3 is when I'd think you'd need to see some serious progress from Campbell. That seems like a reasonable amount of time for Campbell to have gotten situated into the BIG and what it takes to be successful at PSU. We're going to certainly need NIL to pick up though - no matter who the coach is, if we're not bringing in talent, we're going to be behind the true class of college football.
Kind of what CMC says, be patient, it will take time to put the parts in place.
 

razpsu

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Franklin brought in way better talent (that was always competitive with the top of the b1g and Nationally) and did it with a smaller NIL budget than Campbell currently has. You Franklin-Hate now excuse makers for Krafty The Clown and Campbell are so full of crap and ridiculousness, it is sadly ironic.
This makes no sense. Franklin squandered the talent that he had in his last year and Campbell barely had anytime to recruit.
 

razpsu

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Posters here aren’t living in reality. Reality is PSU is headed towards bottom of big ten permanently.

NIL will be all that matters and the teams with the ability to buy elite talent will thrive. All you PSU fans are cheap lets be honest and NIL is trash.

The AD is awful, the staff is mid with young coordinators who are unproven.

see the name WeAreMediocre
You just joined this morning? and this is your post? 😂
 
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razpsu

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How is it that Chesney has UCLA not-only competitive, but has turned them around in year 1. Ditto Franklin an VoTech..... Then of course you had what Cignetti has done at Indiana. This utter nonsense that it takes 3 years to make PSU even marginally competitive (when they were already consistently competitive and a national contender with the top of the b1g under Franklin) with a larger NIL budget than Franklin ever had is just such ridiculous nonsense and bs, it isn't even funny. Clearly, this is what Krafty The Clownboy promised us with his "Championship Football"..... and "Excellence at the highest level"........ [insert eyeroll - zero accountability for Kraft who deserves to be making minimum wage rather than the multi-millions he's pulling down, but Kraft is going to hold the 2nd Winningest Coach in PSU history "accountable" via firing??? What absolute rubbish and bureaucratic, hack, empty-suit garbage. And Alumnus are supposed to financially support this bs???].
UCLA has played absolutely no one. Cmon now. If they beat Oregon then call me.
 

PSUFTG

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EVERYTHING. Literally everything is "fixable".
That is just throw away pandering jibberish, obviously

It is only a matter of when, how, by whom, and how much.
 
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I would have liked for them to give Franklin the bigger budget that Campbell is supposedly getting and see where things would go from there.
Supposedly very NIL budget in the country has risen the last two years. We would need a relative spending comparison not absolute comparison to be fair to each side
 
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Rocco3

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Franklin brought in way better talent (that was always competitive with the top of the b1g and Nationally) and did it with a smaller NIL budget than Campbell currently has. You Franklin-Hate now excuse makers for Krafty The Clown and Campbell are so full of crap and ridiculousness, it is sadly ironic.
I for one have never hated Franklin and don't hate him now. I at one time was one of his biggest supporters. But I have lost a lot of respect for the man.

Ninety percent of the things that have been said about Franklins departure are true and that's the problem I have with him. I do think Kraft botched the way PS parted ways with Franklin and the search process, so Kraft is fair game.

Framklin was not a great recruiter, but he could it seems find those diamonds in the rough and I think did so consistently. He was not a great coach and certainly not a great game day coach but IMO he was a good coach and produced what good coaches produce.

After arriving at PS his ability to hire good coaches was not good. He was given the money to get and retain it just seems in more cases than one he hired the wrong people. Some of the problem seemed to be that his first choices either didn't want to work at PS or for him. He brought some good stable people with him but their own reasons moved on.

College coaching in these most recent times is exponentially more difficult due to the modern culture of college football, money money money.

It's way to early to judge Campbell be any fair measure. Lots of bends and curves in the road this fanbase is going to travel this year. Who and what do we fairly compare him to. Indiana, UCLA, VO Tech and Franklins new Puff League where an average coach can look like a super star for a while

So where are we really. Well, IMO we have gone from a guy who looked and acted a lot like a Used Car Salesman to a straight-shooting fellow who might be a little in over his head for now but has his priorities straight and has the right attitude and culture to build something big long term. I'm willing to wait it out.

IMO for our football team to be in the top 5 the program needs a cargo ship full of money that isn't coming.

As for all you Trolls and cliff jumpers take a seat and draw a deep breath because neither of you are going to get what you want and all you're doing is making yourselves miserable.
How is it that Chesney has UCLA not-only competitive, but has turned them around in year 1. Ditto Franklin an VoTech..... Then of course you had what Cignetti has done at Indiana. This utter nonsense that it takes 3 years to make PSU even marginally competitive (when they were already consistently competitive and a national contender with the top of the b1g under Franklin) with a larger NIL budget than Franklin ever had is just such ridiculous nonsense and bs, it isn't even funny. Clearly, this is what Krafty The Clownboy promised us with his "Championship Football"..... and "Excellence at the highest level"........ [insert eyeroll - zero accountability for Kraft who deserves to be making minimum wage rather than the multi-millions he's pulling down, but Kraft is going to hold the 2nd Winningest Coach in PSU history "accountable" via firing??? What absolute rubbish and bureaucratic, hack, empty-suit garbage. And Alumnus are supposed to financially support this bs???].
How long did it take Franklin at PS since
you and others think he's some kind of coaching god.
 
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Posters here aren’t living in reality. Reality is PSU is headed towards bottom of big ten permanently.

NIL will be all that matters and the teams with the ability to buy elite talent will thrive. All you PSU fans are cheap lets be honest and NIL is trash.

The AD is awful, the staff is mid with young coordinators who are unproven.

see the name WeAreMediocre
Posters here aren’t living in reality. Reality is PSU is headed towards bottom of big ten permanently.

NIL will be all that matters and the teams with the ability to buy elite talent will thrive. All you PSU fans are cheap lets be honest and NIL is trash.

The AD is awful, the staff is mid with young coordinators who are unproven.

see the name WeAreMediocre
You-Are-A-Troll go back to your burrow.
 

LaJollaCreek

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Sure its "fixable" but this year?
The fact that a new HC doesn't even get half a season anymore is a joke. I have zero idea on how it will turn out, but I do know that roster lost 46 players from last year and there is a clear talent issue at some key spots on the field. This season is a wash and if he can squeak out 7-8 wins (to me 6 is really possible right now and not in a good way), make some noise in the portal and bring in some frosh that can sprinkle in some life....maybe they take a step next year. It's hard to win in the B1G with a blah RB room, blah DE rotation, blah DT play, no LB depth, and a QB that gets 5 passes a game swatted down.

Then you have BOT/ex BOT trolls who seem to think their only job is to manipulate the program they way they want it...I mean the way they think Joe wanted it. When people say the BoT is a joke which it is, those clowns in terms of running interference may be worse than those they opposed initially...which is pretty GD sad.
 
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Supposedly the staff now knows about the Goodman run/pass tell. It was one of the most egregious tells you will see on football and shame on the staff for not finding it. The staff learned a serious lesson to self scout that stuff. Shame on Clanton himself.
Huh?
 

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This is a view from outside PSU. Since joining the B1G, Penn State has usually field very good, but not great teams. Now the game has radically changed with NIL. Iowa State probably had talent equal to a low B1G team. Give the coach a couple of years and NIL money in the same realm as Oregon, OSU etc. and Penn State will be back.
 

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The fact that a new HC doesn't even get half a season anymore is a joke. I have zero idea on how it will turn out, but I do know that roster lost 46 players from last year and there is a clear talent issue at some key spots on the field. This season is a wash and if he can squeak out 7-8 wins (to me 6 is really possible right now and not in a good way), make some noise in the portal and bring in some frosh that can sprinkle in some life....maybe they take a step next year. It's hard to win in the B1G with a blah RB room, blah DE rotation, blah DT play, no LB depth, and a QB that gets 5 passes a game swatted down.

Then you have BOT/ex BOT trolls who seem to think their only job is to manipulate the program they way they want it...I mean the way they think Joe wanted it. When people say the BoT is a joke which it is, those clowns in terms of running interference may be worse than those they opposed initially...which is pretty GD sad.

3 known clowns liked this post. Which is telling.
 
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I for one have never hated Franklin and don't hate him now. I at one time was one of his biggest supporters. But I have lost a lot of respect for the man.

Ninety percent of the things that have been said about Franklins departure are true and that's the problem I have with him. I do think Kraft botched the way PS parted ways with Franklin and the search process, so Kraft is fair game.

Framklin was not a great recruiter, but he could it seems find those diamonds in the rough and I think did so consistently. He was not a great coach and certainly not a great game day coach but IMO he was a good coach and produced what good coaches produce.

After arriving at PS his ability to hire good coaches was not good. He was given the money to get and retain it just seems in more cases than one he hired the wrong people. Some of the problem seemed to be that his first choices either didn't want to work at PS or for him. He brought some good stable people with him but their own reasons moved on.

College coaching in these most recent times is exponentially more difficult due to the modern culture of college football, money money money.

It's way to early to judge Campbell be any fair measure. Lots of bends and curves in the road this fanbase is going to travel this year. Who and what do we fairly compare him to. Indiana, UCLA, VO Tech and Franklins new Puff League where an average coach can look like a super star for a while

So where are we really. Well, IMO we have gone from a guy who looked and acted a lot like a Used Car Salesman to a straight-shooting fellow who might be a little in over his head for now but has his priorities straight and has the right attitude and culture to build something big long term. I'm willing to wait it out.

IMO for our football team to be in the top 5 the program needs a cargo ship full of money that isn't coming.

As for all you Trolls and cliff jumpers take a seat and draw a deep breath because neither of you are going to get what you want and all you're doing is making yourselves miserable.

How long did it take Franklin at PS since
you and others think he's some kind of coaching god.

Franklin got here when the program was still under sanctions and in Year 3 PSU was Big Ten Champion.

You think Small Time Matt is going to win the B1G in Year 3?
 

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Oh cute now you have a name for me, thats sweet but I am taken so sorry.
I have no idea who that is, another one of your personalities Sybil?
LMAO, browneye, only a Pennlive halfwit pal of skunkbear would know that idiot's favorite word wouldn't he mbe/Judas. How's he doing?
 
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LMAO, browneye, only a Pennlive halfwit pal of skunkbear would know that idiot's favorite word wouldn't he mbe/Judas. How's he doing?
Um what? Do you ever actually read what you type to see if it makes sense, I mean to anyone besides you and your addled mentally deficient brain?
You or your family should really seek help for you. Also that asylum you are currently in, is way to lenient with their computer times and meds.
 

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Um what? Do you ever actually read what you type to see if it makes sense, I mean to anyone besides you and your addled mentally deficient brain?
You or your family should really seek help for you. Also that asylum you are currently in, is way to lenient with their computer times and meds.
You're busted, you clown. How's skunkbear doing?
 
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Fox Chapel Lion II

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I love Steve Jones and he will be on the Mount Rushmore of Penn State without question.

I have bad news for him. If I see him at Mass on Sunday I'll tell him.

Steve-o, this ain't fixable.
 

bbrown

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You're busted, you clown. How's skunkbear doing?
First off I thought you had me on ignore or do you not understand the word?
But more importantly you are so far off about who I am its bordering on absurdity, but then that is the world you live in.
So do they give you jello in the home or do request chocolate pudding because...well you know. :ROFLMAO:
 

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First off I thought you had me on ignore or do you not understand the word?
But more importantly you are so far off about who I am its bordering on absurdity, but then that is the world you live in.
So do they give you jello in the home or do request chocolate pudding because...well you know. :ROFLMAO:

You missed it. I took all you bozos off ignore over a month ago. And you just pulled that word right out of your a$$, didn't you? Skunkies favorite word. You outed yourself, goofball.
 
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Fox Chapel Lion II

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First off I thought you had me on ignore or do you not understand the word?
But more importantly you are so far off about who I am its bordering on absurdity, but then that is the world you live in.
So do they give you jello in the home or do request chocolate pudding because...well you know. :ROFLMAO:
Who's Wheaties did you pizz in this morning?

I'll give this whacko credit for one thing. He remembers mbe or mbe34. Last time I heard from him, he was living in a cardboard box under the Highland Park Bridge, posting from his Commodore 64 using pirated electricity. So that's going back a good ways.
 
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