So Congress is about to vote on time change

OG Goat Holder

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Honestly, I think a legit question is why are we making K-5 start at 7AM? It isn't good for their sleep which isn't good for their education. Just align all the school schedules K-12 to start at 8:30 and end at 3:30. Having to wake up a kindergartener at 6AM to get them to school is stupid.
Everything the schools do is backward. Heck now you got the football coaches doing practices at like 6 am too, I bet the kids are real fresh for that.

Never understood what sense that made. Football games are played almost exclusively at night in high school.
 

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Everything the schools do is backward. Heck now you got the football coaches doing practices at like 6 am too, I bet the kids are real fresh for that.

Never understood what sense that made. Football games are played almost exclusively at night in high school.

I assume they’re just trying to avoid practicing in full summer heat. Is that not right??
 

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Rule 1: The cult leader is always right.
I voted against him in every primary. I don't like a lot about him. But it's the old South Park episode where the two choices are a turd sandwich or a giant douche. But the options against Trump have always been vomit covered diarrhea sandwiches with AIDS. Do better.

Oh, and nothing changes the fact that Prime is the dumbest person on the internet. Quite a feat.
 

OG Goat Holder

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I assume they’re just trying to avoid practicing in full summer heat. Is that not right??
How about, practice in early afternoon and night. You know, when the games are played.

Allowing kids to get about 4-5 sleep is so much better than practicing in the heat, to many people I suppose. They have heat acclimation periods. Drive some water and move on.
 

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What gets momentum to get passed doesn't always (usually?) accurately reflect public sentiment. Particularly when "for the children" comes into play.
It was repealed quickly, very quickly. You just don't see that. I suspect that will happen again, IF t gets out of the Senate. Y'all are aware that we won't get any more daylight right? I assumed everyone was, but I have been corrected by people I know. 🤣
 

Dawgzilla2

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What makes no sense to me is letting the states, who are spread out all over, decide what they want to do.
I dont think they are letting states decide. The pending bill says states or areas of states that have already opted out of DST can remain on standard time. Everyone else will go to full time DST.

Thats just AZ and HI. Most of our territories have opted out of DST also, but Im not sure if any of these statutes apply to them.

If a State or portion of a state decides they dont like DST, they could apply to change time zones. But no one will have standard time for part of the year.
 

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Everything the schools do is backward. Heck now you got the football coaches doing practices at like 6 am too, I bet the kids are real fresh for that.

Never understood what sense that made. Football games are played almost exclusively at night in high school.
Early morning practices...
- help avoid practicing in heat.
- reduces cancelled practices.
- logistically frees up the field for other sports and activities in the afternoon and evening.
- might simply be when coaches are available.


To be clear, I hate early morning practices as a parent and a coach.
The lack of sleep is brutal on kids.
And the inequity is glaring- it screws over kids who rely on bus transport and kids who get siblings ready for school. Those kids end up coming late, or missing practice, or having to scramble and bum rides.
 

mcdawg22

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I was curious with all the talk about how wildly unpopular it was in 1974. Obviously northern states would definitely be more against it with later colder sunrises. The power was in the Northern states back then. Illinois, Michigan, Ohio, NY, and Penn was 140 electoral votes. 2028 it’s 98. In 1974 Florida, Georgia, NC, TX, and California was 113. In 2028 it’s 156.
 
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I was curious with all the talk about how wildly unpopular it was in 1974. Obviously northern states would definitely be more against it with later colder sunrises. The power was in the Northern states back then. Illinois, Michigan, Ohio, NY, and Penn was 140 electoral votes. 2028 it’s 98. In 1974 Florida, Georgia, NC, TX, and California was 113. In 2028 it’s 156.
I was in high school when they did this. Absolutely everyone hated it. You got up earlier in the pitch black and cold. Then there wasn't much up side in the afternoon. The sun still goes down pretty early. And it's still WINTER. The supposed extra hour of daylight really doesn't help you.
 

mcdawg22

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I was in high school when they did this. Absolutely everyone hated it. You got up earlier in the pitch black and cold. Then there wasn't much up side in the afternoon. The sun still goes down pretty early. And it's still WINTER. The supposed extra hour of daylight really doesn't help you.
It does where I live. I have to cut grass well into December sometimes. I also could hit the driving range for an hour after work. Again I realize a lot of people and maybe even the majority will not like it but I would. My office window is huge and when I am working at 4:45 and it’s dark outside I’m mentally done for the day.
 
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Early morning practices...
- help avoid practicing in heat.
- reduces cancelled practices.
- logistically frees up the field for other sports and activities in the afternoon and evening.
- might simply be when coaches are available.


To be clear, I hate early morning practices as a parent and a coach.
The lack of sleep is brutal on kids.
And the inequity is glaring- it screws over kids who rely on bus transport and kids who get siblings ready for school. Those kids end up coming late, or missing practice, or having to scramble and bum rides.
Sounds like you agree with me.
 

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Honestly, I think a legit question is why are we making K-5 start at 7AM? It isn't good for their sleep which isn't good for their education. Just align all the school schedules K-12 to start at 8:30 and end at 3:30. Having to wake up a kindergartener at 6AM to get them to school is stupid.
They do it because of families that both work, K-5 is a daycare.
 

HotMop

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How about, practice in early afternoon and night. You know, when the games are played.

Allowing kids to get about 4-5 sleep is so much better than practicing in the heat, to many people I suppose. They have heat acclimation periods. Drive some water and move on.
Early afternoon?
The Sandlot Movie GIF
 

mcdawg22

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Honestly, I think a legit question is why are we making K-5 start at 7AM? It isn't good for their sleep which isn't good for their education. Just align all the school schedules K-12 to start at 8:30 and end at 3:30. Having to wake up a kindergartener at 6AM to get them to school is stupid.
They do it here to stagger the buses. Traffic here is bad enough, if all the different elementary middle and high school buses were running at the same time as well as parent drop offs it would be significantly worse.
 

HotMop

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It does where I live. I have to cut grass well into December sometimes. I also could hit the driving range for an hour after work. Again I realize a lot of people and maybe even the majority will not like it but I would. My office window is huge and when I am working at 4:45 and it’s dark outside I’m mentally done for the day.
Same.
 

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Ehh. I don’t want to have to get up at 3:45 to go to work in the summer.
I’m hoping for standard time for the same reason. I go to the gym before work. I don’t want to get up at what is really 3:45 because of savings time.
 
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They do it here to stagger the buses. Traffic here is bad enough, if all the different elementary middle and high school buses were running at the same time as well as parent drop offs it would be significantly worse.
Perhaps my viewpoint is clouded being in Madison as little Timmy cannot ride a school bus here lest his seat be less comfy than the Range Rover or perhaps he might learn a curse word.
 
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They do it here to stagger the buses. Traffic here is bad enough, if all the different elementary middle and high school buses were running at the same time as well as parent drop offs it would be significantly worse.
and obviously require more buses to be bought as here they use the same buses.
 
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I’m surprised they’re even looking at a bill, those clowns haven’t done one thing this term.
Shut down the border which the last administration said needed congress to do.
Restructure trade to help stop getting taken advantage of.
Got nations of the UN to actually start giving what they are suppose to/working towards this goal/ minus Spain.
Trump accounts
Trump rx- you obviously aren't on any medications. Medications that use to cost over 1k now are less than 300 and more reductions plans to those meds/more additions to come.
Has a task force going after fraud so all these taxes I'm paying are going to people committing fraud or supporting far left liberal agendas over seas.
I could go on but it's not going to change your mind so I'll stop here. TDS is real. Yes he says a lot of dumb stuff and no I don't agree with what all he does but man if you were going to vote for Biden over Trump this past election, there is no helping you.
 
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Tom Cotton is the lynchpin in the Senate vote. He’s very much against the bill and the vote may fall closer to party lines.
 

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I saw a meme that I did not cut and paste here but it does influence my thoughts on this. Permanent Daylight Savings was already tried.

It lead to a lot kids getting killed while standing outside in the dark catching school buses. That was not the only thing but the change only lasted one year. The outrage was swift and nationwide. I know we live in a different time but the more I read about it, the less I like it.
 

mcdawg22

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Of Florida goes DST year round, when you come back from a Florida bowl and it’s 1:30 just west of Tallahassee, when you get to Ponce De Leon it will be 1:30 and when you get to the Alabama it will be 1:45. 188 miles in 15 minutes! Of course the other way will take 4 hours.
 
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