This is the biggest head scratcher of them all. WTF. Our fan base isn’t just saying, but others as well like Michigan who really thought they were going to land him too. Ridiculous.. Obviously went for the biggest bag he could find, and Colorado is an absolute train wreck. We’re working other safeties that are ranked at least as highly as him but I preferred landing a PA kid.
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Snyder brought up that Colorado was pushing really hard for Jenkins a couple of weeks ago on the podcast. They were called very much a wild card
Can you blame the kid. I have no idea what he is getting paid, but if its 200k more than the second highest bid. How can you not take that, even if the second bid is half a million.
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I don’t know. I could understand going to an Ohio State, Michigan or Georgia. You tip your hat and move on. I do not understand going to Colorado, even getting more cash. The potential to develop into an NFL prospect is higher here or at other Blue Bloods. And if Colorado blows up this year, Sanders may not be the coach next year.
What does this sentence even mean? Do you think Cignetti has been getting P2 HC offers for the past 20 years and turning them down lmao? For whatever reason he was overlooked and passed over until he got his shot at JMU and then had so much success he was impossible to ignore. Of course every national champion has some amount of luck, that's sports. But the way they embarassed Oregon+Alabama in the playoffs wasn't luck. You appear to think that he has no skill nor backing from the university to build a platform for longterm success, which is far from true.
I'm actually enjoying life. I just don't believe in fairy tales. There is nothing wrong with big dreams.....but if you are going to achieve you need tangible results. PSU could sign a dozen five stars before December. Or, because of their week schedule (and I anticipate them winning 10 games) they might supplement this class with dynamic big play talent in the portal. What we are speculating on here is where PSU is at this moment. At this time and place
That may be true. What is also true is that if Franklin had won the natty you would be a fan as well.
No one called Cignetti lucky. He's turned a program around in unprecedented fashion. What I'm unwilling to admit is that he is the only football coach alive with the recipe for ice.
Dabo Swinney was a coaching genius who won 2 titles and went to sleep one night and according to media types and fanboys forgot how to coach.
There are lots of coaches who had sustained success, which in my opinion is more difficult to attain than a onetime title.
Jimbo had 2 and got canned. How's Les Miles doing or Ed Orgeron? Remember Gene Chizik?
Forgive me for tipping my cap but waiting to anoint Cignetti as the best thing since sliced bread.
There was a guy named Roger Maris when I was a kid. You may have heard of him. Hit 61 homers in 1961. He was 27 years old. He never hit more than 33 home runs again in his life.
I'm simply showing restraint until I see that Cignetti belongs on the Mount Rushmore of great college football coaches. If you fanboys wish to put him there, go right ahead. He's got 4 games this year vs teams "with a pulse." If the program is on a solid foundation, they should be in the playoffs again.
What I'm saying is that Cignetti is one of many very knowledgeable and talented coaches employed at the P4 level. The belief that he has some secret formula that sets him apart from those other coaches is hogwash. He's had sudden success at a traditionally bad program. I give him credit. But is he head and shoulders above the likes of Kirby Smart, Dan Lanning, Ryan Day or even Bob Chesney? He's burst onto the scene with great success and as such is the shiny new object. Coaches have a way of developing feet of clay in the eyes of those who worship them. It's only a matter of time until familiarity breeds contempt.
“Indiana won the lottery. Therefore, your plan for success is to buy tickets and hope. Dollar and a dream. LOL”
This is you saying Indiana got lucky. Unless you want to play the semantics game because you didn’t use that exact word, but winning the lottery is luck.
I know you mean well but there’s no chance of having any meaningful back and forth with the angry, BGJ-loving sociopaths.
Money and playing for a Pro bowl DB, I can see why the kid would go. I can also see why he would be in the portal after November
The plan was CMC would have more resources at psu and would be able to recruit better at psu. Better recruiting would then lead to more wins.
Recruiting has regressed.
Recruiting has regressed.
make sure you wipe BGJ goo off your chin
I will repost those for you after every loss. You are sucking up before the team even wins a game.
If you cannot see that Cignetti is head and shoulders above Lanning or Chesney, you have lost your mind. Lanning has the full financial support of Phil Knight and no championship. Chesney has not coached a single game in P4.
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You're about as stupid as your posts are idiotic. I'm not sucking up to anyone, just willing to see what happens with a new coach leading the program. You, on the other hand, want to condemn from the outset, before a game under the new staff has been played. You'd rather live in the past, worshipping BGJ, who couldn't win big games, tried to solicit a raise back handedly, and had no clue in how to hire coordinators to fit the players he recruited. Keep gobbling his goo, wipe off your chin dribble and keep sporting your Virginia Tech swag.
Do some research, Skippy - Penn State’s independent schedule during Paterno era was as good or better than anyone - statistically.
Might be dipping into the collection plate? Price of golden candlesticks may plunge….
Do I have to explain this to you again?
1) Good coaching begets winning
2) Winning begets top tier recruiting
3) Top tier recruiting coupled with good coaching beget continued winning
We all know you weren’t a very good HS coach and recruiting wasn’t formally allowed hence your lack of winning.
Yo, little boy, 1980-1989 national SoS...
9,1,3,11,4,16,13,25,8,20
Now go away or I shall taunt you a second time
Here is what you do not get. You make a statement like this, "The fact that he kept the secret sauce to coaching perfection hidden for 63 years is the kind of fairy tale that fans love to swallow." Like College coaching hasn't changed in 63 years. I'll tell you what you are missing. Cignetti has been raiding other teams rosters and moving to his own team since he was first a head coach at IUP. You need to look at his history. He's made his head coaching living by bringing in established players and putting them in his starting lineup day one. He was using the portal concept long before the portal ever existed. It gave him a massive leg up. This was truly new to most every major college football coach, and these other coaches are going to catch up to him, but it is because he understood a concept that the rest of them are learning.
Here is what I find interesting. Long term, I believe we are going to find that Grunk is better than Becht but Campbell wants Becht, he knows how to run his offense. He's spent years learning the terminology. Thats important to Campbell. We've heard it over and over. This means nothing to Cig. If he thinks Grunk is better inside of a couple of months. Grunk would know how to run his offense and, his team will be better for it. Actually, Cig understands that football doesn't have to be ultra complicated to win. Most coaches miss this. Hell, Franklin made it so complicated his established QB got worse.
Again.....the verdict will not be in until we witness the product on the field.
So all you need to do is win without talent to get talent. Makes perfect sense.
But if good coaching "begets" winning, then why recruit ? It would be so much easier to find a 1 genius coach than 100 winning athletes. I don't know what your background is, but as an old coach once said, "you can't polish mud."
Here we go again. Somehow making Campbell the hero by taking a swipe at Franklin. Franklin doesn't have PSU currently #7 in Rivals recruiting rankings this morning. Some here insist that's just dandy. PSU will pull multiple rabbits from the portal "hat" and be Indiana. Others say Campbell will just win "and recruits will come." Then there is the ultimate excuse,"recruiting doesn't matter anymore. LOLLOLLOL....like no one here would be puffing out their chest if PSU had the #1 class.
No one addresses the fact that recruiting has not improved under a new staff with more financial resources. That's the debate.
If Franklin was fired for poor performance, and his supervisor promised "excellence at the highest level," and a national championship.....it doesn't seem to be coming into focus. Taking shots at the former coach, doesn't put athletes on PSU's roster that will beat Ohio State and Oregon.
Perhaps "Cig" should educate coaches "who think winning is ultra complicated?" What a guru. I'll bet Kirby Smart, Dan Lanning, Dabo Swinney and of course our beloved James Franklin, would sprint to enroll in his master class. LOL
Maybe reading comprehension isn't one of your strong suits but no where did I say Coach Campbell was a hero, just willing to give him a chance before condemning him like BGJ goo gobblers. BGJ proved he couldn't hire staff to fit his roster, couldn't win big games and proved a failure in game time decisions.
Be a smart arse all you want and to a certain extent despite your sarcasm, you are correct. Any coach would be really smart to listen to how Cig brings an abundence of new players, integrates them into his starting lineup without upsetting the apple cart. He's obviously got it down really well, and I doubt he's telling people exactly what he is looking for and how he does it.
CIg has shown at every level (go google him) that he does win, and he does it with a boatload of new players to his system that contribute day one. So is his system likely hard or likely easy to understand? As I've said, other coaches are going to start to figure out a lot of what he is doing. Really, I doubt people like me and you have much of a clues as to how he identities and pulls kids in. Though I feel certain he'd rather have a 5th year senior multi year starter from Tulsa or FCS over a 5 star HS kid.
Why is Campbell stating over and over that having a Becht who understands his system is so so so important to this team? How well did Mendoza understand Cigs system in the spring of 2025. What about Kurtis Roarke in the spring of 2024. Go look at his stats in 2024.
This thread is getting out of hand, there are about six posters, of whom i think have
double handles. The opinions smack of Juvenile language, or bots hinting of Jimmy
apologists,and MC haters.
Jimmy is gone, Matt is here, and Indiana won the National Championship with zero 5
stars. Deal with it.
double handles. The opinions smack of Juvenile language, or bots hinting of Jimmy
apologists,and MC haters.
Jimmy is gone, Matt is here, and Indiana won the National Championship with zero 5
stars. Deal with it.
For those who count the stars, PSU is favored to land 5 more 4 star recruits in this class. That would make a total of 11 4 stars overall.
The worst is the retired coach in his cheerleading skirt for Jimmy still. He needs to go to the VT board and be the victim he has constantly made himself out to be over the years over there.
If you want a laugh, drop some of the posts here into ChatGPT and ask it to estimate age/maturity level.