2027 Recruiting Thread

LMTLION

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He'll be in the portal next year
This is the biggest head scratcher of them all. WTF. Our fan base isn’t just saying, but others as well like Michigan who really thought they were going to land him too. Ridiculous.. Obviously went for the biggest bag he could find, and Colorado is an absolute train wreck. We’re working other safeties that are ranked at least as highly as him but I preferred landing a PA kid.
 

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This is the biggest head scratcher of them all. WTF. Our fan base isn’t just saying, but others as well like Michigan who really thought they were going to land him too. Ridiculous.. Obviously went for the biggest bag he could find, and Colorado is an absolute train wreck. We’re working other safeties that are ranked at least as highly as him but I preferred landing a PA kid.
Snyder brought up that Colorado was pushing really hard for Jenkins a couple of weeks ago on the podcast. They were called very much a wild card

Can you blame the kid. I have no idea what he is getting paid, but if its 200k more than the second highest bid. How can you not take that, even if the second bid is half a million.
 
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LMTLION

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Snyder brought up that Colorado was pushing really hard for Jenkins a couple of weeks ago on the podcast. They were called very much a wild card

Can you blame the kid. I have no idea what he is getting paid, but if it’s 200k more than the second highest bid. How can you not take that, even if the second bid is half a million.
I don’t know. I could understand going to an Ohio State, Michigan or Georgia. You tip your hat and move on. I do not understand going to Colorado, even getting more cash. The potential to develop into an NFL prospect is higher here or at other Blue Bloods. And if Colorado blows up this year, Sanders may not be the coach next year.
 

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I know he has a goofy handle, but he is a PSU writer and this is what he claims. I guess if that is true that explains the Colorado move.
 
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Cignetti may be a magician and bring long term improvement to what I believe is a historically bad program. However, in terms of the "apex" of his career, he probably should have retired and gone into doing color commentary on gameday and keeping "the mystic" alive. The fact that he kept the secret sauce to coaching perfection hidden for 63 years is the kind of fairy tale that fans love to swallow.
What does this sentence even mean? Do you think Cignetti has been getting P2 HC offers for the past 20 years and turning them down lmao? For whatever reason he was overlooked and passed over until he got his shot at JMU and then had so much success he was impossible to ignore. Of course every national champion has some amount of luck, that's sports. But the way they embarassed Oregon+Alabama in the playoffs wasn't luck. You appear to think that he has no skill nor backing from the university to build a platform for longterm success, which is far from true.
 

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I could not imagine being you and being that miserable in life. It’s only a game.
I'm actually enjoying life. I just don't believe in fairy tales. There is nothing wrong with big dreams.....but if you are going to achieve you need tangible results. PSU could sign a dozen five stars before December. Or, because of their week schedule (and I anticipate them winning 10 games) they might supplement this class with dynamic big play talent in the portal. What we are speculating on here is where PSU is at this moment. At this time and place
If Franklin had done what Cignetti pulled off, he’d be calling him a genius instead of just lucky. He’s just a Franklin fan. What can you do?
That may be true. What is also true is that if Franklin had won the natty you would be a fan as well.
No one called Cignetti lucky. He's turned a program around in unprecedented fashion. What I'm unwilling to admit is that he is the only football coach alive with the recipe for ice.
Dabo Swinney was a coaching genius who won 2 titles and went to sleep one night and according to media types and fanboys forgot how to coach.
There are lots of coaches who had sustained success, which in my opinion is more difficult to attain than a onetime title.
Jimbo had 2 and got canned. How's Les Miles doing or Ed Orgeron? Remember Gene Chizik?
Forgive me for tipping my cap but waiting to anoint Cignetti as the best thing since sliced bread.
There was a guy named Roger Maris when I was a kid. You may have heard of him. Hit 61 homers in 1961. He was 27 years old. He never hit more than 33 home runs again in his life.
I'm simply showing restraint until I see that Cignetti belongs on the Mount Rushmore of great college football coaches. If you fanboys wish to put him there, go right ahead. He's got 4 games this year vs teams "with a pulse." If the program is on a solid foundation, they should be in the playoffs again.
 
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What does this sentence even mean? Do you think Cignetti has been getting P2 HC offers for the past 20 years and turning them down lmao? For whatever reason he was overlooked and passed over until he got his shot at JMU and then had so much success he was impossible to ignore. Of course every national champion has some amount of luck, that's sports. But the way they embarassed Oregon+Alabama in the playoffs wasn't luck. You appear to think that he has no skill nor backing from the university to build a platform for longterm success, which is far from true.
What I'm saying is that Cignetti is one of many very knowledgeable and talented coaches employed at the P4 level. The belief that he has some secret formula that sets him apart from those other coaches is hogwash. He's had sudden success at a traditionally bad program. I give him credit. But is he head and shoulders above the likes of Kirby Smart, Dan Lanning, Ryan Day or even Bob Chesney? He's burst onto the scene with great success and as such is the shiny new object. Coaches have a way of developing feet of clay in the eyes of those who worship them. It's only a matter of time until familiarity breeds contempt.
 

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I'm actually enjoying life. I just don't believe in fairy tales. There is nothing wrong with big dreams.....but if you are going to achieve you need tangible results. PSU could sign a dozen five stars before December. Or, because of their week schedule (and I anticipate them winning 10 games) they might supplement this class with dynamic big play talent in the portal. What we are speculating on here is where PSU is at this moment. At this time and place

That may be true. What is also true is that if Franklin had won the natty you would be a fan as well.
No one called Cignetti lucky. He's turned a program around in unprecedented fashion. What I'm unwilling to admit is that he is the only football coach alive with the recipe for ice.
Dabo Swinney was a coaching genius who won 2 titles and went to sleep one night and according to media types and fanboys forgot how to coach.
There are lots of coaches who had sustained success, which in my opinion is more difficult to attain than a onetime title.
Jimbo had 2 and got canned. How's Les Miles doing or Ed Orgeron? Remember Gene Chizik?
Forgive me for tipping my cap but waiting to anoint Cignetti as the best thing since sliced bread.
There was a guy named Roger Maris when I was a kid. You may have heard of him. Hit 61 homers in 1961. He was 27 years old. He never hit more than 33 home runs again in his life.
I'm simply showing restraint until I see that Cignetti belongs on the Mount Rushmore of great college football coaches. If you fanboys wish to put him there, go right ahead. He's got 4 games this year vs teams "with a pulse." If the program is on a solid foundation, they should be in the playoffs again.
“Indiana won the lottery. Therefore, your plan for success is to buy tickets and hope. Dollar and a dream. LOL”
This is you saying Indiana got lucky. Unless you want to play the semantics game because you didn’t use that exact word, but winning the lottery is luck.
 

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“Indiana won the lottery. Therefore, your plan for success is to buy tickets and hope. Dollar and a dream. LOL”
This is you saying Indiana got lucky. Unless you want to play the semantics game because you didn’t use that exact word, but winning the lottery is luck.
I know you mean well but there’s no chance of having any meaningful back and forth with the angry, BGJ-loving sociopaths.
 

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CMC averaged 6.9 wins a year at isu.

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make sure you wipe BGJ goo off your chin
 
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LMTLION

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What I'm saying is that Cignetti is one of many very knowledgeable and talented coaches employed at the P4 level. The belief that he has some secret formula that sets him apart from those other coaches is hogwash. He's had sudden success at a traditionally bad program. I give him credit. But is he head and shoulders above the likes of Kirby Smart, Dan Lanning, Ryan Day or even Bob Chesney? He's burst onto the scene with great success and as such is the shiny new object. Coaches have a way of developing feet of clay in the eyes of those who worship them. It's only a matter of time until familiarity breeds contempt.
If you cannot see that Cignetti is head and shoulders above Lanning or Chesney, you have lost your mind. Lanning has the full financial support of Phil Knight and no championship. Chesney has not coached a single game in P4.
 

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I will repost those for you after every loss. You are sucking up before the team even wins a game.
You're about as stupid as your posts are idiotic. I'm not sucking up to anyone, just willing to see what happens with a new coach leading the program. You, on the other hand, want to condemn from the outset, before a game under the new staff has been played. You'd rather live in the past, worshipping BGJ, who couldn't win big games, tried to solicit a raise back handedly, and had no clue in how to hire coordinators to fit the players he recruited. Keep gobbling his goo, wipe off your chin dribble and keep sporting your Virginia Tech swag.
 

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Joebots are the people who thought playing Syracuse, Pitt, army, navy, wvu and temple every year put psu on par with alabama. They think the old schedule was a great schedule but now complain about the current schedule.
Do some research, Skippy - Penn State’s independent schedule during Paterno era was as good or better than anyone - statistically.
 

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ND is loading up on offensive linemen. They just flipped a kid from UCLA. That already had a commitment from two other OL players including Halter, a four star OT from Pittsburgh Central Catholic, who is the fourth ranked player in PA. In addition, they just got a commitment from the #1 player in NJ, a five star OT. Now, they are the favorites to land the #1 player in DE who was previously committed to PSU. They aren’t messing around.
Might be dipping into the collection plate? Price of golden candlesticks may plunge….
 

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Again, chicken or egg?
Do I have to explain this to you again?

1) Good coaching begets winning

2) Winning begets top tier recruiting

3) Top tier recruiting coupled with good coaching beget continued winning

We all know you weren’t a very good HS coach and recruiting wasn’t formally allowed hence your lack of winning.
 
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Joebots are the people who thought playing Syracuse, Pitt, army, navy, wvu and temple every year put psu on par with alabama. They think the old schedule was a great schedule but now complain about the current schedule.
Yo, little boy, 1980-1989 national SoS...

9,1,3,11,4,16,13,25,8,20

Now go away or I shall taunt you a second time
 

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What I'm saying is that Cignetti is one of many very knowledgeable and talented coaches employed at the P4 level. The belief that he has some secret formula that sets him apart from those other coaches is hogwash. He's had sudden success at a traditionally bad program. I give him credit. But is he head and shoulders above the likes of Kirby Smart, Dan Lanning, Ryan Day or even Bob Chesney? He's burst onto the scene with great success and as such is the shiny new object. Coaches have a way of developing feet of clay in the eyes of those who worship them. It's only a matter of time until familiarity breeds contempt.
Here is what you do not get. You make a statement like this, "The fact that he kept the secret sauce to coaching perfection hidden for 63 years is the kind of fairy tale that fans love to swallow." Like College coaching hasn't changed in 63 years. I'll tell you what you are missing. Cignetti has been raiding other teams rosters and moving to his own team since he was first a head coach at IUP. You need to look at his history. He's made his head coaching living by bringing in established players and putting them in his starting lineup day one. He was using the portal concept long before the portal ever existed. It gave him a massive leg up. This was truly new to most every major college football coach, and these other coaches are going to catch up to him, but it is because he understood a concept that the rest of them are learning.

Here is what I find interesting. Long term, I believe we are going to find that Grunk is better than Becht but Campbell wants Becht, he knows how to run his offense. He's spent years learning the terminology. Thats important to Campbell. We've heard it over and over. This means nothing to Cig. If he thinks Grunk is better inside of a couple of months. Grunk would know how to run his offense and, his team will be better for it. Actually, Cig understands that football doesn't have to be ultra complicated to win. Most coaches miss this. Hell, Franklin made it so complicated his established QB got worse.
 
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Marshall2323

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You're about as stupid as your posts are idiotic. I'm not sucking up to anyone, just willing to see what happens with a new coach leading the program. You, on the other hand, want to condemn from the outset, before a game under the new staff has been played. You'd rather live in the past, worshipping BGJ, who couldn't win big games, tried to solicit a raise back handedly, and had no clue in how to hire coordinators to fit the players he recruited. Keep gobbling his goo, wipe off your chin dribble and keep sporting your Virginia Tech swag.
But FDS isn't an issue with PSU fanboys?
 

Marshall2323

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Do I have to explain this to you again?

1) Good coaching begets winning

2) Winning begets top tier recruiting

3) Top tier recruiting coupled with good coaching beget continued winning

We all know you weren’t a very good HS coach and recruiting wasn’t formally allowed hence your lack of winning.
But if good coaching "begets" winning, then why recruit ? It would be so much easier to find a 1 genius coach than 100 winning athletes. I don't know what your background is, but as an old coach once said, "you can't polish mud."
 

Marshall2323

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You're about as stupid as your posts are idiotic. I'm not sucking up to anyone, just willing to see what happens with a new coach leading the program. You, on the other hand, want to condemn from the outset, before a game under the new staff has been played. You'd rather live in the past, worshipping BGJ, who couldn't win big games, tried to solicit a raise back handedly, and had no clue in how to hire coordinators to fit the players he recruited. Keep gobbling his goo, wipe off your chin dribble and keep sporting your Virginia Tech swag.
Here we go again. Somehow making Campbell the hero by taking a swipe at Franklin. Franklin doesn't have PSU currently #7 in Rivals recruiting rankings this morning. Some here insist that's just dandy. PSU will pull multiple rabbits from the portal "hat" and be Indiana. Others say Campbell will just win "and recruits will come." Then there is the ultimate excuse,"recruiting doesn't matter anymore. LOLLOLLOL....like no one here would be puffing out their chest if PSU had the #1 class.
No one addresses the fact that recruiting has not improved under a new staff with more financial resources. That's the debate.
If Franklin was fired for poor performance, and his supervisor promised "excellence at the highest level," and a national championship.....it doesn't seem to be coming into focus. Taking shots at the former coach, doesn't put athletes on PSU's roster that will beat Ohio State and Oregon.
 

Marshall2323

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Do I have to explain this to you again?

1) Good coaching begets winning

2) Winning begets top tier recruiting

3) Top tier recruiting coupled with good coaching beget continued winning

We all know you weren’t a very good HS coach and recruiting wasn’t formally allowed hence your lack of winning.
Ouch, that last sentence really hurts. Boohoo:cry::ROFLMAO:
 

Marshall2323

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Here is what you do not get. You make a statement like this, "The fact that he kept the secret sauce to coaching perfection hidden for 63 years is the kind of fairy tale that fans love to swallow." Like College coaching hasn't changed in 63 years. I'll tell you what you are missing. Cignetti has been raiding other teams rosters and moving to his own team since he was first a head coach at IUP. You need to look at his history. He's made his head coaching living by bringing in established players and putting them in his starting lineup day one. He was using the portal concept long before the portal ever existed. It gave him a massive leg up. This was truly new to most every major college football coach, and these other coaches are going to catch up to him, but it is because he understood a concept that the rest of them are learning.

Here is what I find interesting. Long term, I believe we are going to find that Grunk is better than Becht but Campbell wants Becht, he knows how to run his offense. He's spent years learning the terminology. Thats important to Campbell. We've heard it over and over. This means nothing to Cig. If he thinks Grunk is better inside of a couple of months. Grunk would know how to run his offense and, his team will be better for it. Actually, Cig understands that football doesn't have to be ultra complicated to win. Most coaches miss this. Hell, Franklin made it so complicated his established QB got worse.
Perhaps "Cig" should educate coaches "who think winning is ultra complicated?" What a guru. I'll bet Kirby Smart, Dan Lanning, Dabo Swinney and of course our beloved James Franklin, would sprint to enroll in his master class. LOL
 

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Here is what you do not get. You make a statement like this, "The fact that he kept the secret sauce to coaching perfection hidden for 63 years is the kind of fairy tale that fans love to swallow." Like College coaching hasn't changed in 63 years. I'll tell you what you are missing. Cignetti has been raiding other teams rosters and moving to his own team since he was first a head coach at IUP. You need to look at his history. He's made his head coaching living by bringing in established players and putting them in his starting lineup day one. He was using the portal concept long before the portal ever existed. It gave him a massive leg up. This was truly new to most every major college football coach, and these other coaches are going to catch up to him, but it is because he understood a concept that the rest of them are learning.

Here is what I find interesting. Long term, I believe we are going to find that Grunk is better than Becht but Campbell wants Becht, he knows how to run his offense. He's spent years learning the terminology. Thats important to Campbell. We've heard it over and over. This means nothing to Cig. If he thinks Grunk is better inside of a couple of months. Grunk would know how to run his offense and, his team will be better for it. Actually, Cig understands that football doesn't have to be ultra complicated to win. Most coaches miss this. Hell, Franklin made it so complicated his established QB got worse.
You have to understand some people are stuck in 1986.