Paycom 2026 National Duals

pawrstlersinpa

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Willie, on Basch and the Brain this morning, said there are quite a few teams not going to this event this year, they listed Nebraska as a no, Iowa as a likely no, Michigan as a no, none of the Ivy's. They also said VaTech is up in the air as that is during their finals but were trying to work around it.
How does Okie State match up against Bellarnine, Mercyhurst, and Morgan State?
 

jack66

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Will TanTom go all-in again?

I'm guessing he will. The win put him in the limelight for much of the year.
 

Fatwoodchuck

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I dont have a dog in the fight. Why does everyone hate Rutgers so bad?

I get Goodale says some funny stuff but not bad enough to get the heat they are given.

What am I missing? It has to be more than just they are a perennial top 10 team.
 
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Cali_Nittany1

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I dont have a dog in the fight. Why does everyone hate Rutgers so bad?

I get Goodale says some funny stuff but not bad enough to get the heat they are given.

What am I missing? It has to be more than just they are a perennial top 10 team.

1) Its Rutger, not Rutgers
2) Its always fun to lampoon anything in Jerzey
3) The vile posted and displayed by Rutger fans following the Sandusky mess would make even the hard-core denizens of HR blush
4) the hilarity from rucrackers and cruise liner jokes is a gift that keeps on giving

Those are a few that come to mind quickly. I'm sure I've missed some more.

Paging @Matter7172
 

TwoJoints

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1) Its Rutger, not Rutgers
2) Its always fun to lampoon anything in Jerzey
3) The vile posted and displayed by Rutger fans following the Sandusky mess would make even the hard-core denizens of HR blush
4) the hilarity from rucrackers and cruise liner jokes is a gift that keeps on giving

Those are a few that come to mind quickly. I'm sure I've missed some more.
Wasn’t there also an incident in the handshake line a couple of seasons ago where Goodale said something to Cael/Casey and Casey did not take it kindly?
 
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El_Jefe

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1) Its Rutger, not Rutgers
2) Its always fun to lampoon anything in Jerzey
3) The vile posted and displayed by Rutger fans following the Sandusky mess would make even the hard-core denizens of HR blush
4) the hilarity from rucrackers and cruise liner jokes is a gift that keeps on giving

Those are a few that come to mind quickly. I'm sure I've missed some more.

Paging @Matter7172
Also the Rutger Fight Club matches.
 

Acacia

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It's May and still no word on the following invited to PayCom duals...

Rank * College Conference Projected Duals * Invited Accepted
1 Penn State Big Ten 77 - 0 YES NO
4 Nebraska Big Ten 74 - 3 YES NO - after last years disaster maybe headed back to CKLV
5 Iowa Big Ten 73 - 4 YES NO - maybe they go to Soldier Salute this year

21 Cornell Ivy 58 - 19 YES NO - IVYs only wrestle second semester???
22 Pennsylvania Ivy 57 - 20 YES NO
31 Columbia IVY 47 - 30 YES NO
35 Princeton IVY 43 - 34 YES NO

* ranking and projected duals record are per WrestleStat

Nine teams so far...

Rank College Conference Projected Duals Invited Accepted SEED
2 Oklahoma State Big 12 76 - 1 YES YES 1
3 Ohio State Big Ten 74 - 3 YES YES 2
6 Virginia Tech ACC 73 - 4 YES YES 3
7 Iowa State Big 12 71 - 6 YES YES 4
9 Stanford ACC 67 - 10 YES YES 5
11 Missouri Big 12 67 - 10 YES YES 6
15 Minnesota Big Ten 62 - 15 YES YES 7
16 Wyoming Big 12 61 - 16 YES YES 8
26 Rutgers Big Ten 54 - 23 YES YES 9 - perennial top 10 school (tic)
 

Brian LB-U

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1) Its Rutger, not Rutgers
2) Its always fun to lampoon anything in Jerzey
3) The vile posted and displayed by Rutger fans following the Sandusky mess would make even the hard-core denizens of HR blush
4) the hilarity from rucrackers and cruise liner jokes is a gift that keeps on giving

Those are a few that come to mind quickly. I'm sure I've missed some more.

Paging @Matter7172
5. They booed Navy
 
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Kiddagger311

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I dont have a dog in the fight. Why does everyone hate Rutgers so bad?

I get Goodale says some funny stuff but not bad enough to get the heat they are given.

What am I missing? It has to be more than just they are a perennial top 10 team.
Matter..
 

The Pitchfork Rebel

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I dont have a dog in the fight. Why does everyone hate Rutgers so bad?

I get Goodale says some funny stuff but not bad enough to get the heat they are given.

What am I missing? It has to be more than just they are a perennial top 10 team.

It's starts with not having the guts to call themselves "New Jersey State".
 

NittanyLion84

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Back in the 80’s we used to relentlessly tease our NJ roommate, about two NFL teams that played their home games in NJ, but refused to call themselves the NJ Jets and the NJ Giant’s.
 
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fortheglory94

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Back in the 80’s we used to relentlessly tease our NJ roommate, about two NFL teams that played their home games in NJ, but refused to call themselves the NJ Jets and the NJ Giant’s.
Lifelong New Jerseyan and Giants fan here and I've never wanted that name change. Same as everyone else I know. It's tradition, and nobody I know takes it as a slight.
BTW, did you also tease Redskins fans at the time why they weren't called the Maryland Redskins?
 
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Or they could spin it like last year. A national invite tournament with multiple top teams competing.
The national dual champion is a peripheral narrative that is propagated a lot on this board.
The spiel about Penn State should be here was they were the only top team missing.
At surface level you have DT on stage saying he wanted to put this together for the good of wrestling. I’d say at a deeper look you’d see the success of this directly benefits our biggest rival plus they were joined in this tournament by a number of teams that actively look to move the team national championship to a dual format.
 

Nitlion1986

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At surface level you have DT on stage saying he wanted to put this together for the good of wrestling. I’d say at a deeper look you’d see the success of this directly benefits our biggest rival plus they were joined in this tournament by a number of teams that actively look to move the team national championship to a dual format.
The loudest chorus singing the national dual championship about this early season invitational is being sung by members on this board.
As far as this benefiting Okie State, so what?
Taylor saying he likes this because he thinks it is good for wrestling, well OK.
If Taylor ever morphs into Tom Ryan or Rob Koll and starts preaching about the need for the NCAA to bless the PayPal NCAA dual team championship then all the singing would have merit.
If that morph ever happens it will most likely be for the same reason Tom and Rob thought it made sense, money.
Until that happens I really wish we could refrain from singing the song. It's almost as annoying as the 2 month long ballard telling the tale that if only Luke could miraculously avoid getting pinned by Bouzakis he might be able to win that match.
 

Matter7172

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refresh my memory - was it John or Mike Van Brill? One of them is in an upcoming RAF I believe.
John. I saw it as it happened but didn't say anything on the Rutgers board until someone else reported that they had seen it. When they got excoriated by the faithful saying it never occurred, I jumped in and said it wasn't a fabrication and that I had seen it also. I think I was banned shortly after that.
 
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The loudest chorus singing the national dual championship about this early season invitational is being sung by members on this board.
As far as this benefiting Okie State, so what?
Taylor saying he likes this because he thinks it is good for wrestling, well OK.
If Taylor ever morphs into Tom Ryan or Rob Koll and starts preaching about the need for the NCAA to bless the PayPal NCAA dual team championship then all the singing would have merit.
If that morph ever happens it will most likely be for the same reason Tom and Rob thought it made sense, money.
Until that happens I really wish we could refrain from singing the song. It's almost as annoying as the 2 month long ballard telling the tale that if only Luke could miraculously avoid getting pinned by Bouzakis he might be able to win that match.
Well clearly the PSU staff feels the same way and have every right to
 
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Nitlion1986

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Well clearly the PSU staff feels the same way and have every right to
Wrong.
The staff has said zero about this being some sort of effort to pick up Ryan's and Koll's ball and move it forward.

If you want to talk about this event not falling into the plans they have for developing a path to another season ending championship then you are on track.
 

Psalm 1 guy

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John. I saw it as it happened but didn't say anything on the Rutgers board until someone else reported that they had seen it. When they got excoriated by the faithful saying it never occurred, I jumped in and said it wasn't a fabrication and that I had seen it also. I think I was banned shortly after that.
Based on the beatdown Jason put on him at the NCAA tournament I think Jason may have heard about it also :cool:
 

CowbellMan

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I like poking fun at Rutgers as much as anyone not named Matter. However, to qualify for the Big10 tournament you must be a starter for a Big10 program. Even a bad Big10 starter is pretty damn good at this wrestling thing we all love.
Well….it wasn’t US that started it. Lol. The Big Ten Network announcers started it during a dual.

Now…to be very correct on this….they said Mike Van Brill was an elite wrestler because he had qualified for TWO Big Ten tournaments. At least there is a bar to hurdle.

This should never ever go away. lol.
 
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Wrong.
The staff has said zero about this being some sort of effort to pick up Ryan's and Koll's ball and move it forward.

If you want to talk about this event not falling into the plans they have for developing a path to another season ending championship then you are on track.
It’s wrong because it wasn’t spelled out for you in an interview? Fortunately the staff treats DT much more like the rival he is, the guy who openly recruited PSU wrestlers while standing in Lorenzo than posters here. Paycom could pick any day of the year and it wouldn’t work for Penn State. Also widely acknowledged that media (flo) and other top programs want the team championship to be awarded in a dual tournament format. Fortunately PSU taking their stand basically strangled it in the crib.
 

Lil Nicky Scarfo

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It’s wrong because it wasn’t spelled out for you in an interview? Fortunately the staff treats DT much more like the rival he is, the guy who openly recruited PSU wrestlers while standing in Lorenzo than posters here. Paycom could pick any day of the year and it wouldn’t work for Penn State. Also widely acknowledged that media (flo) and other top programs want the team championship to be awarded in a dual tournament format. Fortunately PSU taking their stand basically strangled it in the crib.
It’s unfair that we’re not helping DT out 🙄
 

Nitlion1986

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It’s wrong because it wasn’t spelled out for you in an interview? Fortunately the staff treats DT much more like the rival he is, the guy who openly recruited PSU wrestlers while standing in Lorenzo than posters here. Paycom could pick any day of the year and it wouldn’t work for Penn State. Also widely acknowledged that media (flo) and other top programs want the team championship to be awarded in a dual tournament format. Fortunately PSU taking their stand basically strangled it in the crib.
Look, wrong is wrong, and it is obvious recognition of wrong is beyond your reach. I get it. In your head there is something here to harp about despite zero current evidence existing. Have at it. Taylor is obviously plotting to make the PayPal Dual invitational the NCAA team championship, it's Top Secret but you have access to the file.

Of course, if the NCAA did decide to crown their team champion in a dual tournament format it would be the property of ESPN. Not PayPal.