If you watched the whole interview, it was probably because of death by chocolate at the creamery.
It seems that the consensus is that Oklahoma State is the new rival…
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In a dual meet it could be interesting, but (as stated) winning the national championship is a math problem for Oklahoma State; with the exception of Forrest, they just don't score a lot of bonus points.
PSU has been so dominant recently that it's hard to think that another program has a few guys that probably aren't losing to their PSU counterpart (or anyone) for a few years. I was kind of in the same boat until OSU had almost everything go there way at the NCAAs and still get second by 50 points. The math doesn't really math for OSU to make a serious challenge at the NCAAs with PSUs upper weight dominance and bonus point potential in the near future, unless guys like Lockett and Merrill start scoring.
Let's look at this a different way:
90+%: PSU 2 vs OKST 0
80+%: PSU 0 vs OKST 1
70+%: PSU 4 vs OKST 0
60+%: PSU 0 vs OKST 0
50+%: PSU 2 vs OKST 0
40+%: PSU 1 vs OKST 4
30+%: PSU 1 vs OKST 1
<30%: PSU 0 vs OKST 4
Guessing next year he'll be seeing a lot of underhooks, and the Quentin Wright underhook to cross knee pick. Who can pull that off is another question.
It's obvious that you can't shoot singles into him, and you can't convert a double into a single. Coaches will need to adjust for him.
That can only mean one thing: you must attend NCAAs next year and loudly boo each of their wins.
Agreed. My take is that someone is going to figure out how to scramble with him. It's in the open now. Either that, or get in and figure out how to finish.
What I saw way too much of this tournament was that passive let him shoot in, flip onto your back, grab an ankle, and start rolling around. MM had his hands full with that one guy. It's like wrestling a flopping fish.
This year’s 40 bonus points = 2 extra national champs.
Even with his fab frosh, recruits, hype, and momentum, DT has work to do.
Even with his fab frosh, recruits, hype, and momentum, DT has work to do.
You should probably just stay out of this thread then. LOL.
The bonuses will come. This is DT. He's not teaching the Iowa stall technique. Freshman bonus rates at PSU:
Starocci 25%
RBY 41%
Bartlett 27%
Brooks 43%
Zain 40%
Cenzo 42%
These guys were all < 50% as freshman and (except Bartlett) turned into bonus machines eventually.
This may be the case, but PSUs young guys already are bonus machines. I have a difficult time seeing Lockett and Merrill, specifically, turning into big scorers.
What would their bonus rates be with a 3-pt takedown?
Great point. Quick math is it takes 3 less takedowns now to get a major, I think.
It was actually 73kg I was corrected so just over 160. He's a 133 or 141 depending on what Blaze and him decide
Dillon Campbell
Aaron Seidel
Bo Bassett
Collin Gaj
Caleb Henson
Melvin Miller
Sergio Desiante
That is a nice lineup to 174, and leaves no space for Noah Nininger for a year.
Yep, only see this happening if Noah Nininger is seen as at least as likely to AA as Gaj.
This means either Campbell cuts to 125 and displaces Ventresca, or Henson goes 165.
Neither seems likely.
Campbell going 125 is interesting. Ventresca has 1 more year as well. Some rumors he might portal but just rumors as far as I know
Interesting that Ventresca still has another, quite a bind at the lightweights/middleweights.
Might be some cause for concern if say both Ferraris transferred to V Tech. No real rumors about it or anything but some guy posted about it.
Nebraska would probably like to get Ziola into lineup
the years you think we lose 3 people and decline, Cael will hit the portal for gamers.
have you guessed our line up yet?Maybe if you guys stop saying name all the time I wouldn't have to post as much. Some of you've CDS
While they might not be very popular that’s around 30 NCAA points there added to very dangerous lower and middle weights
it would be a legit threat, take Franklin and wrestling title lol
165 is a question, Mesenbrink could move up to 174. It doesn’t matter what his plans would be for Olympics. He can probably still bonus the field as an undersized 174.
Unless Henckel can beat Duke or James he might be odd man out anyway long term. So just trying to work him in at expense of your best possible scoring lineup would be counterproductive
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It might turn out that the best possible scoring line up actually is in line with working some guys in?
I don't see Mitchell moving up but who knows it's over 7 months away . I would bet $ that right now Duke weighs more then Mitchell
Why does everyone want to move mesenbrink up? Don't think he is cutting much to make 165.
I just think it’s a possibility
if you have a guy that can bonus the field undersized it can increase your mathematical expectation to bump him up and put Duke at 165
Duke (20) + Mitch (25) > Mitch (25) + Henckel (12)….or something like that
What would the result of a dual be?
Okie St I'll give them 2 at 133 and 141. Penn State should win 125, 149, 157,165,174,184, 197. 285 toss up.
Next year Penn State has to replace 174. So how do they close the gap?
Okie St I'll give them 2 at 133 and 141. Penn State should win 125, 149, 157,165,174,184, 197. 285 toss up.
Next year Penn State has to replace 174. So how do they close the gap?
Agreed, we frequently hear “Penn State might not want to admit it, but Ok State is a real threat” when actually I think the gap widens.
A lot went exactly right for OK state with RobaDuke and Merrill. Next year at NCAA a Penn State 185 team score versus 115 for OK State would do nicely to quiet Stilly and outsider glazing. Just give me some backward movement.
something like Ono beating Jax would be the ultimate cherry on top
Let's do this:
LL dec Sprately
Ono dec Rainey
Jax maj. Dec Desmond
Vega dec SVN
Kasak dec Robideau
Mitchell techs anyone
Henckel by dec
Rocco dec Ryder
Barr maj Dec Panda
Ross vs Cole toss up
LL dec Sprately
Ono dec Rainey
Jax maj. Dec Desmond
Vega dec SVN
Kasak dec Robideau
Mitchell techs anyone
Henckel by dec
Rocco dec Ryder
Barr maj Dec Panda
Ross vs Cole toss up