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Cal offered lifetime contract from UK
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Everytime I see him post he slights Cal. I said that to him yesterday and he acted like it was false. What a sad sack.
Fishers is in the Indianapolis area! He’s always got something negative to say about Cal!
Are you signing his checks? No, you’re entitled brat is all!
No kidding...I was just mocking their State Flag...which is a JOKE! [laughing]
Just waiting to hear you say one critical thing of Cal.
You can think he’s a hell of a coach AND still think UK isn’t getting their moneys worth
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That's the first thing I thought about as well. The cost of living out there is ridiculous.
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Some people are tempted by California but when they get there it's a rude awakening due to the high cost of living.
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But, wasn't Cal always going to be UK's coach? At least until he decides he doesn't want to hold that position? Surely no one believes Mitch would have the balls to fire him, right?
So, at the end of the day how does a lifetime contract actually change the narrative? The paid ambassador thing just sounds like a nice retirement perk. Cal will have a office that he rarely see's and UK will get the benefits of being associated with the newest ESPN analyst....I suspect Cal will get a studio gig in Bristol, Connecticut when he does decide to retire.
So, what's this really about? Cal has always said he wanted to retire at UK. So, maybe a lifetime contract ensures that nothing or no one will ever derail that plan. Meaning, perhaps it's Mitch Barnhart that may not be at UK till the day Cal decides to retire. Cal likes to have total control and that wouldn't necessarily be guaranteed if MB were to take another job before Cal's targeted retirement date (whenever that is) comes 'round. You never know.
But, there is a LOT of money involved in Cal staying another 5-6 years. Even more if he stays longer. I just hope he realizes that he does need to make some changes to remain relevant over that period of time. OAD is about to end and it will be interesting to see how Cal and the program make the transition. Lifetime contracts rarely bring the bounty both sides hope for. Should be interesting to watch it all unfold.
So, at the end of the day how does a lifetime contract actually change the narrative? The paid ambassador thing just sounds like a nice retirement perk. Cal will have a office that he rarely see's and UK will get the benefits of being associated with the newest ESPN analyst....I suspect Cal will get a studio gig in Bristol, Connecticut when he does decide to retire.
So, what's this really about? Cal has always said he wanted to retire at UK. So, maybe a lifetime contract ensures that nothing or no one will ever derail that plan. Meaning, perhaps it's Mitch Barnhart that may not be at UK till the day Cal decides to retire. Cal likes to have total control and that wouldn't necessarily be guaranteed if MB were to take another job before Cal's targeted retirement date (whenever that is) comes 'round. You never know.
But, there is a LOT of money involved in Cal staying another 5-6 years. Even more if he stays longer. I just hope he realizes that he does need to make some changes to remain relevant over that period of time. OAD is about to end and it will be interesting to see how Cal and the program make the transition. Lifetime contracts rarely bring the bounty both sides hope for. Should be interesting to watch it all unfold.
How many more years do people think he'll coach? I said it last year, I'll say it again, Cal's best days are in front of him and I think he's drivien to force K and Roy to watch him coach from their couches.
Or what? You'll stop being a fan? You'll break your remote and pout? He doesn't owe you a thing.
And your basing this on what? A “good” feeling?
Sounds lovely but recent results suggest otherwise.
Cal needs another title here for HIS legacy, and UK needs another title to stay ahead of DUKE and UNC. Or else Cal will be known more for what he didnt accomplish. It’s not a controversial statement.
The only thing “controversial” is thinking he is not the coach that is best positioned to win another title here. And given the brand he’s built and the roster turnover I don’t think he is.
Wait, honest question... did you really think there was even a sliver of a chance of Cal going to UCLA ?
Okay, who would you hire right now instead?
Regardless of your whining etc , Cal is here to stay. Facts. So better get used to it brother.
Also... it’s money well spent.
Still waiting for anyone who declares Cal should be fired (we literally had fans after the loss saying they were “done with UK basketball until Cal is gone” how idiotic is that ?
Then All mighty duke and Zion lost and that shut them up really quick
I’m weeping right now. Have been since the last 4 minutes of the Wisky game in 2015.
I’m willing to have a rational exchange...with those who are capable or willing.
I think it’s a fair question in terms of who I would want as coach. And no I don’t believe Cal is going anywhere or was ever going to leave for UCLA.
And It is idiotic to say Cal should be fired. It’s absurd.
Not denying Cal’s success here. It’s simply a matter of projecting where I think we are headed based on recent results and the current state of college basketball and the brand Cal has built. I don’t think it’s the best approach to compete for a title. And right or wrong it is the only threshold I’m looking at right now after the missed opportunities.
I think In 3 years Cal’s resume will resemble Coach Halls, and will be known more for what could have been. I named 6 coaches earlier in the thread who I think would put the Cats in a better position to win a title over the next 6-8 years.
You aren’t rational. You either are an Indiana fan or a UK fan that blames his life problems on Cal for not winning you a Championship. Your a miserable guy that wants company. You ARE the type of “fan” that no team wants.
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Not at all. Which is why I prefaced it with I don’t think he leaves.
Just playing devils advocate and stating UCLA has to sell the non basketball tho ha more than the basketball selling points if they were trying to steal a big name coach.
Great post. @TNCatfanforever is one of the insufferable whiners that switched courses on a dime after Duke lost and wanted to "Mend Fences" when Cal's contract was announced. Pathetic. Can you IMAGINE the vomit he'd be spewing if Duke was playing this week?
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Here is a real-life business analogy. I’m a VP of marketing and operations at a mutual fund company. My counterpart on the sales management side has been with my company about 8 years. We hired him externally from a a competitor in Denver because we were going through a major industry evolution and needed someone with his expertise. We are a 80 year old trillion dollar financial services firm that needed fresh ideas and leadership. The first few years he was great, helped us adapt and thrive. However, we are now positioned to take the next step and he has nothing new to offer. We are trying to embrace a direct sales model and he isn’t as comfortable. Should he be fired? No. Probably not. Burn there is a consensus that we are kinda stuck unless we have new leadership on the sales side.
It’s no different with Cal in my opinion. Perfect hire at the time.
that ridiculous contract should have cost barny his job.
How did a thread with such monumental news about UK only go 5 pages? Boggles the mind.
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Oh baby, THIS is an interesting read.
On one hand, you see some anti-Cal posters who correctly predicted a few things, and stayed with their skepticism of Cal.
On the other hand, you have posters who CLEARLY turned on him because of the Politics and kneeling.
On one hand, you see some anti-Cal posters who correctly predicted a few things, and stayed with their skepticism of Cal.
On the other hand, you have posters who CLEARLY turned on him because of the Politics and kneeling.
Nailed it. Bravo
I think there’s another option here, option c.) someone could have had an opinion change of Cal based on the train wreck of last season. I just think in fairness there are people who have changed their opinion on Cal at UK for reasons entirely unrelated to politics or kneeling. I don’t see that I posted in this thread, but I’d say that describes me. I really don’t care one way or the other about the politics or kneeling.
Meh, I just can’t see so many becoming so belligerent with Cal from one of the most unique and oddest situations ever seen in our sport where all the other top programs were awful too. Not to mention immediately after these post we had one of our better seasons and were a 2 seed heading into the NCAA tournament before it was cancelled. If people are that knee-jerk than it’s hard to pay attention to them. Many stating specifically politics was the reason which is even more ridiculous to me, IMO
Maybe. I'm sure there's some. I never thought you were the type to care much about that, despite having reservations on Cal.
But what I've been hearing a lot of is "This isn't just one bad season, it's been happening for years!"
And look at who supported Cal two years ago, in which we just got done losing to Auburn in the E8.. Morg and Frank. So all the sudden one bad year changes them completely? I don't buy it. They both were losing their **** WELL before this season was lost. Then Cal responded unfavorably to those types, who turned around and got even more mad.
And that's kind of been my biggest concern.. that there ARE fans who are upset with Cal over non-basketball related events.
Wow reading this and it doesn't seem like the pumpers know as much as they thought. But the good news is they will let us know when Cal needs to be replaced.