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I wonder if any of the 16 regions has never had a championship. Which region has the most? I grew up in the 15 th. I think Virgie or Shelby Valley won one. Maybe Warfield or Inez. Did Paintsville win won one? I have been out of the state since 81 so I sorta lost track. I am assuming the Louisville teams have won the most.
 
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I wonder if any of the 16 regions has never had a championship. Which region has the most? I grew up in the 15 th. I think Virgie or Shelby Valley won one. Maybe Warfield or Inez. Did Paintsville win won one? I have been out of the state since 81 so I sorta lost track. I am assuming the Louisville teams have won the most.
Inez won back in the '40's, as I recall. My great uncle was an All-15th Region selection a couple of times for Prestonsburg and he said they could never get past Inez. Paintsville won in 1993 but other than that I don't remember hearing anything about another 15th Region team winning state. Both Wayland and Wheelwright finished third and I think that was in 1956 and 1961, respectively.
 

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Mayfield and Walton-Verona are the only true small schools left in this tourney, both are at around or under 500 students in grades 9-12. John Hardin and Knox Central both played in that new 2A state tournament, but i would say both of them are between 900-1000 in the same grades.
 

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Kentucky needs to never change the 1 Championship system. When you get the schools like Elliott County, Pendleton County, Clay County, etc. fighting and making it to the Sweet 16, it's a HUGE deal for the entire community. It's more than winning it all. It's the battle to get to RUPP.
 
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akaukswoosh

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Mayfield and Walton-Verona are the only true small schools left in this tourney, both are at around or under 500 students in grades 9-12. John Hardin and Knox Central both played in that new 2A state tournament, but i would say both of them are between 900-1000 in the same grades.
Walton-Verona has a very good skinny big, Miles, who is headed to Xavier. He can make 3s. Played on Dontaie Allen's AAU team.
 
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Trinity45

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Pretty sure they just draw the region matchups randomly. I think it would be better to seed all the teams but what do I know? And yes, the fact that every school plays for 1 state championship is awesome.

But how do you seed them, most of these teams don't play common opponents etc. What if you get a decent team from a weak region with a really good record, they would be seeded higher than a team coming from a tougher region???
 

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Inez won back in the '40's, as I recall. My great uncle was an All-15th Region selection a couple of times for Prestonsburg and he said they could never get past Inez. Paintsville won in 1993 but other than that I don't remember hearing anything about another 15th Region team winning state. Both Wayland and Wheelwright finished third and I think that was in 1956 and 1961, respectively.
Shelby Valley in 2009 or 2010 won it. The Elijah Justice lead team.
 

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How about my MNHHS Maroons ? Winners of 22 straight. They have 2 Jr's on the team, and a nice Sophomore, with nice SR. leadership. They will be stacked again next year. Ksaun Casey and Kenny White are legit.
 
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But how do you seed them, most of these teams don't play common opponents etc. What if you get a decent team from a weak region with a really good record, they would be seeded higher than a team coming from a tougher region???

Yeah I guess it is better that they just randomly draw the matches for those reasons. I always thought they should just seed the teams based upon their records but those aren't always indicative of how good or bad a team really is.
 

Trinity45

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Yeah I guess it is better that they just randomly draw the matches for those reasons. I always thought they should just seed the teams based upon their records but those aren't always indicative of how good or bad a team really is.
Unless they could come up with some rating system, just not sure how you do that. There used to be some rating system back in the 70's but it was not that accurate. It had a team we beat 3 times rated ahead of us going into regionals. We beat them twice in the season and for the district championship. I think they only seed districts, or atleast in my area most districts are seed because every team plays each other. But I think the regional is a blind draw as well.
 
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Yep. In a couple of years people are going to wonder how he got out of Kentucky.[winking]
Is he really 6'10? I was looking forward to watching WV play against South Oldham, but South messed that up by losing to Spencer Co. It looks like his only offers were X and NKU - he could rise above that and be one we regret losing out on, but he'll have to blossom in a big way......
 

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New school opening in Scott Co, another high school. I don’t know anything about that particular situation, but usually that spells trouble for the existing school in athletics. Shelby Co was always good, until Collins opened. North Hardin was always good - until John Hardin opened. I’m sure there are plenty of examples. You’re just taking away half (or whatever) of your talent base.
Pulaski was split when Southwestern, where I went, opened in 93 and the schools both benefited from it actually. Having said that, if they were still together they would be a powerhouse. Plus Somerset is usually good at football.
 
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akaukswoosh

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Is he really 6'10? I was looking forward to watching WV play against South Oldham, but South messed that up by losing to Spencer Co. It looks like his only offers were X and NKU - he could rise above that and be one we regret losing out on, but he'll have to blossom in a big way......
If he’s not, he’s close. Playing against some midgets here but you can see he’s plenty tall.
 
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I heard a Rumor that Perry Central magically got 3 new players at the end of the season and they just happen to be the 3 best players on the team. The lord works in mysterious ways.
 

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Lee County made the semi-finals in Stampers senior year. They should have made the finals but their guard missed free throws in the final seconds. I remember watching Stamper and Payne go at it in Beattyville when I was around 13.
 

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I’m from Union County, part of the 2nd Region. One of those five schools you mentioned usually reps the 2nd Region in the Sweet Sixteen. UHA qualifies as a small school based on enrollment, but they are a private school and my understanding is they bring in kids from outside Christian County, both for academics and athletics.

Not sure why the HC boys team doesn’t have more success. I know their girls program is usually pretty strong and goes to the girls Sweet Sixteen quite often.

Not true about UHA bringing in outside kids! They did back in the 90s when Tommy Wade was an assistant but KHSAA put a stop to that. May occasionally have a kid from Trigg County.
 

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I’m from Union County, part of the 2nd Region. One of those five schools you mentioned usually reps the 2nd Region in the Sweet Sixteen. UHA qualifies as a small school based on enrollment, but they are a private school and my understanding is they bring in kids from outside Christian County, both for academics and athletics.

Not sure why the HC boys team doesn’t have more success. I know their girls program is usually pretty strong and goes to the girls Sweet Sixteen quite often.
Union County '07. People forget about wrestling. They only have one class as well for the KHSAA state tournament. Most other states have multiple classes.
 
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There was an article in the Herald Leader 2 years ago about the tournament format and how Edmonson County winning the state title in 1976 pretty much saved the 1 champion model. KHSAA was concerned that the Lexington and Louisville schools had been dominating the tournament over the previous 10-15 years and thought the rural county schools really had no chance to really ever win it again.

In '76 they wanted to see how the tournament played out and if another big city school won it, they were going to switch it to classes in 1977. Apparently Edmonson County came out of nowhere that year and beat Christian County for the state championship and KHSAA voted to keep the 1 champion format.

I'm only 34 and that was 8 years before I was born, but I gathered from that article that nobody expected EC to win a game in the Sweet 16, much less win the whole thing. I think it's great when the championship game is one of the big Louisville/Lexington area schools against a small school from the mountains. I can't imagine any other state has a format like Kentucky does to determine their state champions.
My brother in laws father played on the Edmonson County team.
 

Elliott Tim

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State tournament is set.

13th: Knox Central (30-4)
vs.
8th: Walton-Verona (27-6)

5th: John Hardin (35-0)
vs.
10th: Campbell County (29-4)

3rd: Owensboro (23-7)
vs.
16th: Ashland Blazer (17-16)

7th: Trinity (26-8)
vs.
15th: Johnson Central (27-7)

9th: Covington Catholic (27-7)
vs.
11th: Scott County (32-3)

6th: Butler (25-7)
vs.
14th: Perry County Central (19-12)

12th: Lincoln County (23-12)
vs.
2nd: Madisonville-North Hopkins (29-5)

4th: Warren Central (20-11)
vs.
1st: Mayfield (25-7)

* Covington Catholic v. Scott County is a rematch of last years championship game. I think SC gets this one.

* John Hardin enters the tournament 35-0. Anyone know when the last time a team entered the state tournament undefeated?

* I'm picking John Hardin vs. Scott County in the Championship game. Scott County wins their 3rd State Championship
Ashland beat my alma mater Elliott Co. Came back from a 19 point deficit.
 

mcwildcats04

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Ashland beat my alma mater Elliott Co. Came back from a 19 point deficit.
I saw that. Looked like you guys were undefeated in the Region and they were under .500? Pretty crazy. I'm fellow 16th Region alumnus as well (went to Russell way back in the day; we aren't very good).
 
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Ashland beat my alma mater Elliott Co. Came back from a 19 point deficit.
Is Elliot County a consolidation of Sandy Hook and a couple other schools? We used to play Sandy Hook every season when I was in HS back in the '70's and they were always scrappy. Not the most talented but they did play hard.
 

Elliott Tim

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Is Elliot County a consolidation of Sandy Hook and a couple other schools? We used to play Sandy Hook every season when I was in HS back in the '70's and they were always scrappy. Not the most talented but they did play hard.
No. They were Sandy Hook and changed it to Elliot Co. sometime after I graduated in 1969. Where did you go to school?
 
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No. They were Sandy Hook and changed it to Elliot Co. sometime after I graduated in 1969. Where did you go to school?
I went to Prestonsburg and graduated in 1974. I was wondering what schools would have consolidated to form Elliot County but you answered my questions. Thanks
 

Elliott Tim

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I saw that. Looked like you guys were undefeated in the Region and they were under .500? Pretty crazy. I'm fellow 16th Region alumnus as well (went to Russell way back in the day; we aren't very good).
Russell was good in the 60's. Had a really tall center. For years it was a given that Ashland would be going to the state.
 

kerzman21

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I graduated from Russell in 96. Elliott back in those days weren’t very good. It was usually Boyd or Ashland that made it out of our region. We had a few good teams but never made it out.
 

Elliott Tim

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I went to Prestonsburg and graduated in 1974. I was wondering what schools would have consolidated to form Elliot County but you answered my questions. Thanks
I do know that Carter County consolidated into East & West Carter. Used to be Grayson & Olive Hill.
 
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Russell was good in the 60's. Had a really tall center. For years it was a given that Ashland would be going to the state.
Yep, I remember that Ashland Blazer always had good teams. As I recall, they were Number 1 in the state for a while in 1973 and we played them at Prestonsburg that season.