OT: UL's Deng Adel takes agent

Montana81

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Mack has a heck of a rebuilding job ahead of him. Louisville might have a losing record next year. We should handle them in the YUM.
 
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CatEye2010

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Are they even gonna have enough for a team next year? I see no commits for 2018; losing Mahmoud, Deng, I think Spalding, Snider. Am I missing any?
 
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They gonna SUUUUUUUUUUCK so bad next year.....and the year after that.......etc.
They actually still have some decent players on the roster... as of now. VJ King, Malik Williams, Darius Perry were all very highly ranked. McMahon, Nworra, and Sutton all played well for them this year. They aren't winning the ACC with that group. But they might win enough to get into the NCAA tournament.

Now they need to get their recruiting in gear or the following year could be abysmal. But Mack will probably land his share of players to keep them afloat.
 

Gabewcat

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They all want out of this train wreck. Probation awaits, who the heck wants to play for these cheaters.
 

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I understand now though. If lewisville plays UK this season UK may be on probation for playing a team on probation...the fix is in...
 

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They are going hard after some Grad transfers, they could still put together a decent team if they get a couple of good transfers
 
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They actually still have some decent players on the roster... as of now. VJ King, Malik Williams, Darius Perry were all very highly ranked. McMahon, Nworra, and Sutton all played well for them this year. They aren't winning the ACC with that group. But they might win enough to get into the NCAA tournament.

Now they need to get their recruiting in gear or the following year could be abysmal. But Mack will probably land his share of players to keep them afloat.
They couldn’t make the tourney this year. They have now lost their top 3 scorers and replaced them with absolutely nothing so far. Right now they appear to be on the fence for even a chance at an NIT bid. And btw this is exactly what a school with the enormous amount of corruption that has occurred there deserves to happen to them.
 

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They couldn’t make the tourney this year. They have now lost their top 3 scorers and replaced them with absolutely nothing so far. Right now they appear to be on the fence for even a chance at an NIT bid. And btw this is exactly what a school with the enormous amount of corruption that has occurred there deserves to happen to them.
Thank you.
 

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Jesus, we're gonna beat those clowns by 30, again, on their homecourt. Welcome to the rivalry, Coach Powder.
 
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That's 60% of their scoring, 61% of rebounds, 65% of assists, 56% of minutes played gone off an NIT team. They have VJ King most likely back and a few pretty decent young guys who were playing behind these departures, but they're going to be incredibly thin. They have 9 players and 2 are walk on guards who picked Louisville over Transy.

Lineup looks like, probably:

Darius Perry
Ryan McMahon
VJ King
Jordan Nwora
Malik Williams

With backups Dwayne Sutton (SG) and Lance Thomas (PF), then a couple of walk on guards.
 

tmuck

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Are they even gonna have enough for a team next year? I see no commits for 2018; losing Mahmoud, Deng, I think Spalding, Snider. Am I missing any?
Their fans are reduced to getting giddy over a few grad transfers. LOL. They seriously think Powder is gonna work miracles, and make them a dangerous tourney team next season. Rick Pitino is not walking through that door.
 
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They couldn’t make the tourney this year. They have now lost their top 3 scorers and replaced them with absolutely nothing so far. Right now they appear to be on the fence for even a chance at an NIT bid. And btw this is exactly what a school with the enormous amount of corruption that has occurred there deserves to happen to them.
Perhaps you're right, I guess we will see. It would not bother me one bit for UofL to be terrible. I know it's not a popular opinion to say UofL might be good, it's just that I see enough talent to get things done. UofL missed the NCAA this year because they were relying on a head coach who had no idea what he was doing.
 
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tmuck

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They also think Stephen Enoch is gonna be a beast. The same guy that averaged like 3pts 4rebs at UConn. LOL.
 
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The Athletic - the pay site started by Seth Davis and others who were fired from SI and ESPN - has it's preseason top 25 out. Originally they had Louisville at 12. Looks like they've moved down after the Spalding and Adel news, but still - a lot higher than what some of you guys are calling for:

"25. Louisville
Confirmed Departures: Anas Mahmoud, Quentin Snider, Ray Spalding
Projected Departures: Deng Adel
Projected Returnees: Darius Perry, V.J. King, Ryan McMahon, Jordan Nwora, Malik Williams, Dwayne Sutton, Lance Thomas
Incoming Transfers: Steven Enoch (Connecticut)
Projected Open Scholarships: 5

Here, we've moved Spalding into the confirmed departure list, and Adel to the projected departure one. Still, Chris Mack is one of the country's absolute best coaches, and he'll be inheriting a roster with an awful lot of talent, even if they didn't get results this past year. King and Perry are talented perimeter players, and Williams is a high-upside offensive center. Enoch should do well to replace the defensive impact of Mahmoud. Nwora is a knock-down shooter, and King is probably the most well-rounded player of the bunch. If these guys all hit, they're only a small ways off the mark of the talent level Mack had at Xavier last year. The key will be figuring out what they can do at the point guard position. But with FIVE open scholarships following the departure of Spalding and the expected departure of Adel, we're guessing here that Mack finds multiple answers on the transfer market to solve his problems and set up the Cardinals for a nice run in his first year. If he doesn't do that, the Cards likely fall off of the list."
 

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Perhaps you're right, I guess we will see. It would not bother me one bit for UofL to be terrible. I know it's not a popular opinion to say UofL might be good, it's just that I see enough talent to get things done. UofL missed the NCAA this year because they were relying on a head coach who had no idea what he was doing.
I’m sure Mack will be an upgrade at coach but he’s not a miracle worker. Unless VJ King suddenly becomes a stud instead of the flop he’s been his first two years they will struggle big time next year. And I would imagine it’ll be a challenge for Mack to recruit at a high level for some time with even more NCAA trouble looming ahead for them. We could see some pretty horrible seasons for them in the next few years and I love it lol.
 

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They are going to suck. Look at that roster and tell me they will be a top 50 team next year? They miss the NCAAT last year and loss 4 of there best 6 players without adding anything good.
 

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The Athletic - the pay site started by Seth Davis and others who were fired from SI and ESPN - has it's preseason top 25 out. Originally they had Louisville at 12. Looks like they've moved down after the Spalding and Adel news, but still - a lot higher than what some of you guys are calling for:

"25. Louisville
Confirmed Departures: Anas Mahmoud, Quentin Snider, Ray Spalding
Projected Departures: Deng Adel
Projected Returnees: Darius Perry, V.J. King, Ryan McMahon, Jordan Nwora, Malik Williams, Dwayne Sutton, Lance Thomas
Incoming Transfers: Steven Enoch (Connecticut)
Projected Open Scholarships: 5

Here, we've moved Spalding into the confirmed departure list, and Adel to the projected departure one. Still, Chris Mack is one of the country's absolute best coaches, and he'll be inheriting a roster with an awful lot of talent, even if they didn't get results this past year. King and Perry are talented perimeter players, and Williams is a high-upside offensive center. Enoch should do well to replace the defensive impact of Mahmoud. Nwora is a knock-down shooter, and King is probably the most well-rounded player of the bunch. If these guys all hit, they're only a small ways off the mark of the talent level Mack had at Xavier last year. The key will be figuring out what they can do at the point guard position. But with FIVE open scholarships following the departure of Spalding and the expected departure of Adel, we're guessing here that Mack finds multiple answers on the transfer market to solve his problems and set up the Cardinals for a nice run in his first year. If he doesn't do that, the Cards likely fall off of the list."
It’s Seth Davis. He’s clueless.
 
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Their fans are reduced to getting giddy over a few grad transfers. LOL. They seriously think Powder is gonna work miracles, and make them a dangerous tourney team next season. Rick Pitino is not walking through that door.

I remember trying to convince myself that Sheray Thomas would be the next MJ.
 

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Louisville fans ripped the kid apart after the Virginia game, were practically running him out of town. With the backlash and what's been going on with the program in the last year, I don't blame him for just wanting out of there.

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They actually still have some decent players on the roster... as of now. VJ King, Malik Williams, Darius Perry were all very highly ranked. McMahon, Nworra, and Sutton all played well for them this year. They aren't winning the ACC with that group. But they might win enough to get into the NCAA tournament.

Now they need to get their recruiting in gear or the following year could be abysmal. But Mack will probably land his share of players to keep them afloat.

McMahon doesn't belong in Division 1 basketball. He launched a few 3s and made them and occasionally figured out how to draw cheap contact by flopping, etc. He knows he doesn't have any business being out there with the big boys. If he continues to play minutes for UofL, they are in big trouble and sure as hell won't make the tournament.
 

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I don't understand why cpt suntan thinks they will have anywhere close to a good team next year. Just because you return players doesn't mean that's a great thing. They're losing 4 starters from an NIT team with ZERO recruits...how is that a positive?
 

RoyKent

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Over under on UL wins next year. I’ll say about 13.5

What do you take?
 

Blueblood410

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It’s Seth Davis. He’s clueless.

aka trying to suck up to Chris Mack to look hip and cool, as most of these way too early rankings have become "who do I need to suck up to the most so I can feel cool during my midlife crisis?"
 

JC CATS

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They actually still have some decent players on the roster... as of now. VJ King, Malik Williams, Darius Perry were all very highly ranked. McMahon, Nworra, and Sutton all played well for them this year. They aren't winning the ACC with that group. But they might win enough to get into the NCAA tournament.

Now they need to get their recruiting in gear or the following year could be abysmal. But Mack will probably land his share of players to keep them afloat.
They didn't win enough to get into the Tourny this year. They lose arguably their 4 best players and add no one at this point. Chris Mack does not have a magic wand, nor does he walk on water
 

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They have some freshmen that will be solid players next year, but their overall team isn't going to be very good. Not a lot of experience and only slightly above average talent. They will finish towards the bottom of the ACC and likely miss the tournament again. If NCAA sanctions don't come for a couple years, when Mack is in the middle of his rebuild attempts, it could be a long 5-6 years for UL fans.
 

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VJ King and Malik Williams are the only players who could be above average..Darius perry will be ok, other than that they don't have much at all. I didn't know Spalding left until I read this thread. I doubt they even make the nit next year.
 
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