Dleague brotha or whatever it is. Like Kyle tucker said when Vanderbilt was injured “doubt Vanderbilt plays for U.K. again” there’s a reason he tweeted it.
Buckle up (next year) ...
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Dleague brotha or whatever it is. Like Kyle tucker said when Vanderbilt was injured “doubt Vanderbilt plays for U.K. again” there’s a reason he tweeted it.
But, when the NBA scouts see his measurable's and POTENTIAL, he will go in the 1st round. That is what we have to deal with concerning our roster EVERY year. It doesn't matter if they are "ready" or not, just if NBA teams are willing to draft them in the 1st round.
He can dish and has an oversized motor. He’s not coming back and risk it with the foot.
Never had a freshman leave that wasnt a 1st rounder.
You can say you think JV will be it, but it hasn't happened yet...
Why do people think that the NBA has no idea about the kid's injuries?
They are taking the risk not JV...
His measurable is his height only, he is far from being NBA athletic.
I think SGA is closer to his ceiling than any other player on the team. He has excelled in the part that can be taught...
Wiltjer played well for Gonzaga and Matthews is starting and contributing heavily for Michigan - who has a chance to make title game. He had 18 points in tonight’s game.
You complained about guys leaving after their freshman year and use 3 guys who were sophomores as your example. Smh. Dakari and Aaron are currently on NBA rosters.
We have no idea.
JV is a different situation, seems as though he is one of the few that Cal has been unable to rein in the outsiders...
Hope you are right and he returns, but I've seen a bunch of NBA Draft lists with him going in the 1st round. After tonight that may change. I do know that by what your post says, that if Cal thinks this is his "ceiling", he'll definitely encourage him to go now if he stays in the 1st round after the combine.
I know the mocks have him high and if he's a sure fire 1st Rounder he better go. With IQ coming in and those we are currently recruiting it will be a crowded position.
I think he wants to be a pro player and come hell or high water he’s gonna go. I would be absolutely shocked if he came back. I think Vanderbilt will be 100% and show out at the combines. Why else would the family play it so safe earlier in the season?? And maybe even lately??
No, I complained about anyone leaving when they're not ready. And are you sure ? I mean, ****..I just watched a special about those 06 and 07 Florida teams..Horford, Noah, Brewer..and those guys' careers have went just fine. A little more UK and a little less NBA. How bout it ?
They all want to be pro players. The family and others are a big question mark no doubt...
Hard to rebound from the bench. He could have been useful against KSU in the last three minutes of that game. Of course, that is speculation. He might have even blocked the layup that won the game. He has been known to block or alter shots
Copy and pasted from your previous post.
but the Lamb, Briscoe, Dakari Johnson, James Young, etc types..no way in hell should they be going after just their Freshman year.
Okay, my bad..but I would hope you know that I meant they shouldn't go after their Freshman, Sophomore, or Junior years if they're not ready.
Im just saying we have never had any leave that were not 1st Rounders.
People are saying Hami, JV and PJ may go... some just might but it would be a first time for non 1st Rounders to declare as freshmen from UK.
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Rough next year and referencing a roster that's full of ridiculous talent with another year of experience? That's a terrible answer. I added in each player's ranking coming out of high school. Of course rankings aren't the best predictors of who will be a star and NBA player obviously, but they are great indicators of good basketball talent. That roster is ridiculous. Most of the teams beating Cal every year would count Baker as their best player. This is all on Cal and how he handles these teams.
To pretend like that roster you listed is bad is just an asinine comment.
Those rankings don’t mean anything.
Killeya-Jones 23
Gabriel 15
Look, I like both of them but let’s not act like they are top 25 players in their class.
The issue is we don’t have any top 5 players. It’s what this team (and other successful teams Calipari has had) is missing.
Our roster this year had better “rankings” than next year and we had 11 losses.
Absolutely, if the team has almost next to zero experience.
If most of these kids return we should be in a good spot.
I see 2 that are most likely gone Knox and Shai.
If Hami and JV roll the dice that's on them. If not then we are very solid next season.
Green, PJ, Hami, JV, Richards with a year of experience along with SKJ and Gabriel as juniors.... not a bad nucleus. Hopefully the freshmen provide the shooting and scoring we will need.
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Maybe that will hold, hopefully it does. But Ulis left a year before he should because he was told he would taken in the 2nd round with some sort of money guarantee. Who's to say that couldn't happen for a freshman?
A year before he should?? He could stay at UK for 10 years and he's still going to be 5'9". His playing was as good as it gets.
That’s why last year hurt like hell. We would have won it all with that group and lost of a buzzer beater with horrendous officiating only to lose our whole team. Then come back with this bunch who pisses away a good opportunity to get to the national title game and they lose to K-State.
Now off to another mass exodus and year where we can’t win it all. We can’t keep anyone long enough under this system anymore.
SGA is likely gone. Murray was horrible against Indiana in 2016 and it had no effect on his lottery position.
SGA is a top 20 pick and will likely go as a result. Would be the equivalent of WCS coming back in ’14-15 or Jones coming back in ’11-12 if SGA returned.
Sine you’re a man of trends and stats, I’m sure you would agree that it’s highly unlikely and border on fringe naivety to try to paint a picture of Shai somehow returning.
Remember that Diallo tried his hardest to NOT be here this year.
Gone:
Diallo,PJ,Vando,Knox,SGA,,at least one transfer
Result:
Next year dont look any better
I understand that MKG wanted to return and Cal said NO. And people on here dont believe that Cal pushes them out the door are blind.
You make a good point with the first-round history.
On the flipside, let’s not act like all of Cal’s kids take his advice. At least four of them have completely blown off his draft advice. Only difference was that some of them got really lucky and made the first round (Goodwin, Teague, Skal, Orton) with the last first round pick or second-to-last.
Also, Cal was expecting the twins to leave after their first year. He was surprised when they returned. Both of them would have been 2nd round picks or undrafted.
The narrative you’re promoting – that kids will be sensible with their draft decisions – is not the full story. Many kids have outright ignored Cal’s draft advice.
The hope is that the fringe kids listen with this current group in much the same way Lamb, Briscoe, Poythress, twins and others did.
There’s no way to tell for sure.
Hopefully the trend you mentioned continues, but history can’t be used as a measurement with this group because Cal’s never had a group like this before (exclusively non-transcendent freshmen/sophomores).
Vanderbilt/PJ are coin flips.
Diallo at least has a chance of returning.
I agree on SGA/Knox.
I’m not sure why some of you are so adamant on Vanderbilt/Washington leaving. We really don’t have any real information on Vanderbilt’s injury status at all.
The narrative that he’s hiding for the draft is based on guesswork.
Don't really care if Vanderbilt stays or goes, Bottom line he cannot hit outside shot
Ulis is not a good example. His stock would never be higher... AA and DPOY. He definitely made the right decision.
Who on this team has these accolades and cannot raise their value by staying?
I agree with this. You saw K State really shut SGA down for most of the game. He wasn't allowed to get into the lane and without the drive to the basket he really becomes average. A set shot won't cut it in the league. But hey, I'm not an NBA GM so they will do what they do and pick kids that aren't ready to contribute...