Dean Wade will play
- Thread starter Calsthebomb
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As long as it isn't Dean'Wayne Wade I'm cool with it.
Yeah I don't like facing guys named D. Wade in the tournament....
In his last full game played, they had to take TCU to OT to win in their conference tourney. Not saying he can't play, but they weren't exactly world beaters with him in that game or otherwise throughout the year.
I don't think many Georgetown college players could be first team all Big 12
A foot stress fracture has a healing time of 6-8 weeks. Thursday will be 2 weeks. There is a 0% chance a stress fracture has healed in that time. If he plays he will almost certainly make it worse. Btw, the 98% comment came from him, not the coach, team dr. or the school. I think it's wishful thinking on his part.
Looks like a solid defender.
Hope he plays. [smoke]
Hope he plays. [smoke]
Simple. Put him in ball screen and make him guard the perimeter. Aggravate the foot a bit and he's more of a liability than a help.
This. Let him guard Shai on the perimeter for multiple possessions. We will see how healthy that foot is real quick.
LMAOLooks like a solid defender.
Hope he plays. [smoke]
Also, I am much more worried about Brown Jr. than Wade. We had massive trouble with Clark on Saturday and Brown is a similar player.
This. Even if he plays, he'll be playing injured with a still-fractured foot. Which means he won't be able to run or cut well, will be in pain, and won't be anything near the same player he was before the injury.
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They wouldn’t switch. Even if you have a fully healthy foot Shai is unguardable one on one. He may be the most skilled pg UK has had one on one under Cal (I say skilled meaning he doesn’t need to out run or over power you to beat you to the basket)
Pretty sure he just said that to be saying it.
I am pretty sure he is just sandbagging so we have to prepare for him. Nobody is playing on a stress fracture after just 2 weeka.
Set good solid screens, and force them to switch. If you set great screens and they don't switch, we will get straight line drives to the hoop. Even if he has to hedge hard, that will still put significant pressure on that stress fracture. This is all assuming he will play.
From reading his statements in the Manhattan paper, he isn't even out of the pain phase yet. It's like he thinks if the pain is gone he can play. I feel bad for his predicament but there is no way he should be allowed to play. Further injury to a foot could jeopardize any shot he has at a pro career.
lol. Could've swore I said similar. They have a similar skill set. If we lock down Brown (assuming Wade won't be that effective with stress fracture), and force others to beat us, UK wins this going away.
I'm not a doctor, but I do use Google, and my quick research says that if Wade does have a stress fracture in his foot, then he's not close to being ready to play a high-intensity, NCAA Tournament basketball game without pain, risk of further injury, or with much, if any efficacy.
From this link, and assuming this is the bone Wade has problems with as it is the most common in basketball:
http://www.sidelinesportsdoc.com/stress-fractures-in-the-foot/
"Navicular Fracture
The navicular is a bone on the inner side of the middle part of the foot. This small bone in the foot withstands a lot of stress when you perform repetitive jumping or sprinting. Navicular stress fractures are fairly common among basketball and volleyball players. You might notice pain along that bone on the top of your foot at the level of your arch.
The challenge with a navicular stress fracture is that these foot injuries are at risk for not healing due to a poor blood supply. If an orthopedic surgeon and patient decided to treat your stress fracture without surgery, we usually require you to remain strictly nonweightbearing for at least 6 to 8 weeks in a cast. We often perform early surgery to place one or two screws across the bone."
And from this link:
https://hoopshabit.com/2014/06/23/serious-stress-fractures-nba-players/
"Once a stress fracture is diagnosed, the initial treatment of the injury is the same as the treatment for an acute fracture. The patient is immobilized and if needed, surgery is performed to fixate the fracture. However, because of the biomechanical causes of stress fractures, the rehabilitation often takes much longer, because correcting the abnormalities is needed to prevent reinjury, a common occurrence with these types of injuries."
And finally:
https://www.active.com/running/articles/5-phases-of-stress-fracture-recovery
"Phase 1: Injury Period (Usually 4 to 6 weeks)
This period begins at the time of diagnosis, not at the time the athlete started feeling pain. The athlete must stay below their pain threshold throughout this phase. To accomplish this, weight-bearing status is variable for each patient, but can range from being on crutches to use of a special walking boot to being able to swim, aqua jog or even ride a bike. This may be a trial to see what causes pain, but you must be honest! Don't do anything that causes pain, and if you experience pain when walking, you might need to try crutches or a walking boot."
From this link, and assuming this is the bone Wade has problems with as it is the most common in basketball:
http://www.sidelinesportsdoc.com/stress-fractures-in-the-foot/
"Navicular Fracture
The navicular is a bone on the inner side of the middle part of the foot. This small bone in the foot withstands a lot of stress when you perform repetitive jumping or sprinting. Navicular stress fractures are fairly common among basketball and volleyball players. You might notice pain along that bone on the top of your foot at the level of your arch.
The challenge with a navicular stress fracture is that these foot injuries are at risk for not healing due to a poor blood supply. If an orthopedic surgeon and patient decided to treat your stress fracture without surgery, we usually require you to remain strictly nonweightbearing for at least 6 to 8 weeks in a cast. We often perform early surgery to place one or two screws across the bone."
And from this link:
https://hoopshabit.com/2014/06/23/serious-stress-fractures-nba-players/
"Once a stress fracture is diagnosed, the initial treatment of the injury is the same as the treatment for an acute fracture. The patient is immobilized and if needed, surgery is performed to fixate the fracture. However, because of the biomechanical causes of stress fractures, the rehabilitation often takes much longer, because correcting the abnormalities is needed to prevent reinjury, a common occurrence with these types of injuries."
And finally:
https://www.active.com/running/articles/5-phases-of-stress-fracture-recovery
"Phase 1: Injury Period (Usually 4 to 6 weeks)
This period begins at the time of diagnosis, not at the time the athlete started feeling pain. The athlete must stay below their pain threshold throughout this phase. To accomplish this, weight-bearing status is variable for each patient, but can range from being on crutches to use of a special walking boot to being able to swim, aqua jog or even ride a bike. This may be a trial to see what causes pain, but you must be honest! Don't do anything that causes pain, and if you experience pain when walking, you might need to try crutches or a walking boot."
There are a few things that you need to know about KSU with Wade in the game.
Wade is fundamentally sound. He can score in the post or from the perimeter. He can facilitate the game for his teammates. Brown and company are much better when he is in the game. The only thing keeping him from being more on the national radar is a signature win, and his unselfish play. He is kind of the opposite of every player on your roster.
KSU is a good defensive team. They may not have the athletes that Kentucky does, but they are scrappy and will make you play ugly. Their interior guys are tougher than they are given credit for.
If Wade is limited, I don't see how KSU wins this game. With Wade out, KSU is limited to Barry Brown hero ball. The kid plays hard, and gets a few buckets, but his talent level doesn't match up well with his effort. The other guards can be sped up and forced into committing copious turnovers.
If the game is tight at the end KSU does not finish well in pressure packed environments.
Wade is fundamentally sound. He can score in the post or from the perimeter. He can facilitate the game for his teammates. Brown and company are much better when he is in the game. The only thing keeping him from being more on the national radar is a signature win, and his unselfish play. He is kind of the opposite of every player on your roster.
KSU is a good defensive team. They may not have the athletes that Kentucky does, but they are scrappy and will make you play ugly. Their interior guys are tougher than they are given credit for.
If Wade is limited, I don't see how KSU wins this game. With Wade out, KSU is limited to Barry Brown hero ball. The kid plays hard, and gets a few buckets, but his talent level doesn't match up well with his effort. The other guards can be sped up and forced into committing copious turnovers.
If the game is tight at the end KSU does not finish well in pressure packed environments.
No I'm saying that he doesn't want or get the hype that comes with being a member of your team. He brings his lunch pail to work, gets the job done and goes home.
I like the "goes home" part. I hope we can help with that. [winking]
Good assessment, thank you for sharing. So to sum it up, you are saying KSU has no shot in hell in winning
More than likely not. Don't sleep on them though. The only way I see them winning is if Wade plays, and they pack in the lane to stop UK drives forcing UK to rely on jacking up threes all game.
Their offense against UMBC was pitiful without him. They struggled to put up points against a 16 seed. Unless he is Larry Bird and Karl Malone put together, Im not too worried.
I don't see it going well for him. Stress fractures are no joke. First crossover from Shai and he'll go down quicker than a bewildered geriatric in an understaffed elderly home.
Looks like a solid defender.
Hope he plays. [smoke]
That's not exactly fair...you can take a couple clips from anyone that has played where they were dunked on.
Can you imagine any of our guys playing two weeks after a stress fracture? LOL...maybe Jonny David.