I saw that interview and he looked bad, he must spend a long time being made up for the games. The make up artist has his hands full.
Bill self on ESPN
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Given the early flameouts, I can't believe you'd even want anyone to know that. But hey, if you're good with bread banners....
When I see his mug I think Rug Doctor........
Why Bill Self you look like somebody just walked over your grave.or kicked your car(i'm not sure which)
That's why he THE most popular coach with college basketball writers. He does terrible things running his program but he does treat everyone with respect. (Unless he needs your roster spot)
Interesting Question...
In Official Overall NCAA Appearances:
Calipari is 37-25 or .596 with UMass, Memphis and UK
Self is 43-18 or .704 with Tulsa, Illinois and Kansas.
Self made one NIT appearance with Oral Roberts and Cal had five NIT appearances with UMass, Memphis and UK. None of their NIT record are included in these percentages.
Cal is hurt by his 0-6 (2007-08) and 0-5 (1995-96) vacated seasons.
If you don't count all of the vacated losses and just give him 0-1 for those two years, then his record improves to: 37-17 or .685
Dok is practicing and should play some minutes vs. Penn. My guess he will get 10 minutes or so.
Penn will make history & beat down the always over-rated stuttering chokehawks. U heard it hear first.
No point in comparing anything but UK/KU tourney records. Plus, the way you wrote that makes people think that at Oral Roberts, all the other years they made the big dance except the one NIT. They didn’t. Why give Cal 0-1 for vacated seasons? What sense does that make? You are wiping out two final fours and instead giving him L’s for those games to fit your agenda.
If he doesn’t go, KU is ripe to get picked off.
I'll take Cal's
1- Elite 8
4 - Final Four
1 - National title
N/A
8 - National runner-up
1- Final Four
4 - Second round
2 - Elite 8
5 - TBD
HiCat on a good day...or during a good one...
This is one of the greatest singers and person ... ever .... from Hawaii..
Israel (IZ) Kamakawiwo`ole
One of those that died too soon......
AlohaCat
Not to make light of a death but that dude was too big. Cannot do that and get away with it... Just can't. I hope you're not that large...
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Brah, I'm twice his size.......(NOT !!!) :joy:
Brah, I'm in shape....200 pounds of steel and sex appeal !!! :joy::flushed::stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:
AlohaCat
Yeah, Brudda IZ died of complications due to morbid obesity ....
But, BB, if you had met him you would have really liked him.... he was that kind of a person!
Did you listen to his song?
AlohaCat
@BBUK
But, BB, if you had met him you would have really liked him.... he was that kind of a person!
Did you listen to his song?
AlohaCat
@BBUK
You can't give him 0-0. Maybe his actual records of 0-6 at Memphis and 0-5 at UMass is too punitive. But I didn't wipe out two final fours, the NCAA did. And those games, he officially lost by the games being vacated. But even if you just give him 0-1, Self's overall record is better.
And regarding the NIT, I was not attempting to imply that Self went the NIT often. He went only once with Oral Roberts. Cal went six times with UMass, Memphis and UK.
While Silvio DeSousa looked good, I agree with you; Kansas needs Dok to get far in the Tournament Hard to rely on Freshmen.
I did listen and he sang okay. I just hate to see anyone do that to themselves. It has to be a horrible way to go. I never held size against anyone. A let a man do what he wants to do as John said as Hondo, but I just require they don't stop me from doing what I want to do. I am a little over svelte myself.
Which means no one has done less with more? [laughing]
:joy:
This is perhaps the most ridiculous garbage I've read on this board all year, and half the people who post here likely have psychological problems.
Just for ***** and giggles, how about running the numbers without those two additional losses you inexplicably attributed to Cal? Any particular reason you don't want to go there?
Actually, don't worry about it. We already know why. That would push Cal (.712) to a higher winning percentage than your numbers for Self (.704).
Your bias is showing.
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1 Final Four.
You should hang a banner for gaming the system.
Play a decent OOC schedule, but one that really only has 2-3 losable games. Win your wildly overrated conference. Get a 1 or 2 seed, bomb out of the tournament. Rinse, repeat.
Did Billy Preston at least get to keep the car, BTW?
Well, well, well, what do we have here. A Kansas fan touting a regular season accomplishment. Congrats on that remarkable success.
If Kansas didn't play in such a garbage conference they'd be prepared to capitalize on their high seeding.
If Kansas didn't play in such a garbage conference they'd be prepared to capitalize on their high seeding.
Someday, probably not this century but someday, Kansas will have had enough real success as a program that they don't have to hang giant banners based on fake fantasy 'championships' created by the Helms bread company in California decades after the fact. Those championships were won nowhere and were determined by nothing but some bakery employee's opinion (he named Kentucky champion six times but no one in Kentucky cared.) Until then, it's hard to take them seriously.
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When games are vacated, they are vacated. The 5-1 and 4-1 records do not turn into 0-6 and 0-5 records against him. The wins are wiped out, and each year should correctly be reflected as 0-1 in the record books. But, if you are going to judge coaching ability and records, just add up the actual wins and then note with an * that the NCAA vacated those seasons.
You guys want to pretend those games were not vacated, go right ahead...there are Louisville fans that will still claim a National Championship too.
Nope. Just pointing out how you selectively chose not to run the numbers in an intuitive way because it undermined your premise.
Except that this is a discussion on tournament coaching ability. The games happened, so if we are going to compare coaches and how well they do in the NCAAT, you need to include those games unless you are just biased...which you are, of course.
If you are just looking at records for some other reason, then sure, be technical about it and mark them as 0-1.
In this case, the discussion is about reality, not technicality.
0-1 is the way I ran the numbers Which put Self ahead of Cal. Which way would you deal with the vacated years? Pretend those years where not vacated? Or recognize the NCAA ruling and give 0-1 for those years?
Okay then you would agree that, unless you are bias, that Rick Pitino and Louisville won a NCAA Championship and the banner should still hang in Yum because it was realistically still a win, right?
Yes, I know that the game happened in reality because I watched it.
I also disagree that the banner should still be hanging because the title was vacated.
That does not change the fact that the game happened, and if we were having a discussion about Cal vs Pitino in the NCAAT, I would count his wins in 2012 and 2013.
What you are doing is being disingenuous, and everyone here knows it.
So stop, please. Self is not as good of a tournament coach as Cal based on the results. That's just a fact.