The fact that it says bad loan seems to indicate it’s the same stuff as Marcus Camby. Pay this with expectations that they will sign with you and when Bam did not, it’s a “bad loan.”
Bam and Knox
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The fact that it says bad loan seems to indicate it’s the same stuff as Marcus Camby. Pay this with expectations that they will sign with you and when Bam did not, it’s a “bad loan.”
My question is this
If we say Cal (or any coach, but since Cal is ours, I'm going to focus on him) isn't aware that these kids are getting shoe and agent money then that seems like an incredibly naive stance, but if you don't take that position, then the coaches were turning a blind eye to the baggage these kids potentially brought to your program.
As Coach K said , and I'm paraphrasing, thats just the nature of recruiting today.
Do you bring a Bam Adabeyo or Nerlens Noel into your program knowing its likely that the 2007 Jeep Grand Cherokee (just an example) he is driving was bought with under the table money - also knowing that if you don't go after him, Duke, UNC, and Kansas will?
Coaches don't keep their job losing out on recruits like that.
If we say Cal (or any coach, but since Cal is ours, I'm going to focus on him) isn't aware that these kids are getting shoe and agent money then that seems like an incredibly naive stance, but if you don't take that position, then the coaches were turning a blind eye to the baggage these kids potentially brought to your program.
As Coach K said , and I'm paraphrasing, thats just the nature of recruiting today.
Do you bring a Bam Adabeyo or Nerlens Noel into your program knowing its likely that the 2007 Jeep Grand Cherokee (just an example) he is driving was bought with under the table money - also knowing that if you don't go after him, Duke, UNC, and Kansas will?
Coaches don't keep their job losing out on recruits like that.
I am white, middle class with a college degree. It just seems like many from my background have greater problems with kids needing expenbse money etc to be able to have opportunity to play in HS.
WE may lack compassion & understanding because we cannot relate.
LOL. No one knows when the loans happened, just when they were recorded. And no one knows if there were many other loans, or what the context was. There are names on the list just above and below Elijah Johnson like Brendan Haywood and Jared Jeffries who played in early 2000s. Why would they still be paying those guys? It was likely a reference to earlier payments. And why give Elijah Johnson a loan after he had already not been drafted and signed a European contract? Nice try to dodge on Elijah, Jayhawk, but you fail.
I see it like this
1. Either pay them like employees
2. Make them legitimate students who have to earn grades and maybe even offer something like this as a major.
The charade of pretending these guys are student athletes is a joke. Yeah, maybe in soccer, water polo and baseball but certainly not in basketball and football.
In this situation, a big part of the problem with turning yourself in, is that you are turning yourself in to a corrupt governing body.
The Emperor has no clothes. Play that to your advantage.
You don't voluntarily vacate games when the schools right behind you on the wins list have cheated their butts off for years and vacated nothing.
Unfortunately, it's no longer about doing the "right" thing where the NCAA is concerned. It would be like confessing to the mob boss that you skimmed the take and getting yourself shot.
Unfortunately, it's no longer about doing the "right" thing where the NCAA is concerned. It would be like confessing to the mob boss that you skimmed the take and getting yourself shot.
What if Bam refuses to speak with the NCAA? Didn't that get Duke off the hook with I think his name was Cory Magget?
Could that agent deal with overseas players and his name just be on there? I didn’t think it went back as far as that. But Kyle Lowry is also on there
HAHAHAHA . Man you gotta bring better troll game then that .
UK through and thought here. You obviously sound scared. The ones that get the most defensive are the ones that are usually the most nervous and try to implicate other programs to make themselves feel better. And call other UK fans trolls if they say anything against UK or take up for another program. Relax a little and let it all play out.
Get out of here with that liberal bs.
The loan to Elijah Johnson came 2 years after he graduated when he was a pro playing in Europe. Nothing to see on that front in terms of Kansas however Josh Jacksons mom is mentioned so who knows on that front
Under option 1 you would have to pay every student athlete in every sport due to title 9. Colleges have tried to argue that self supporting sports programs (read football and basketball) should be treated differently than other sports. Unfortunately, that argument has failed in court numerous times.
I doubt anyone is sat for those things. I mean kids like Knox and Carter . If anything they just pay the meal back. Honestly I am relieved as there is nothing on that FBI thing that looks bad for UK or UK could of known about . Same with UNC or DUke . Also with so many schools with all this minor stuff I kinda doubt the NCAA can do much.
If you can't see the difference in things orchestrated by the school and coaching staff and players being paid by a third party before they commit to any school, maybe sit this one out and save your lecture.
For those saying we shouldn’t stoop down to UNC’s level in a morality sense, I don’t agree. I don’t think it’s a moral issue to make the NCAA pry the wins from our program out of our cold dead hands. Numerous other programs have skated on by playing the hard *** card and I say we do it too.
History is on the line. While I’d rather vacate wins than go on probation, I don’t want to lay down and let the NCAA do whatever they want to us. Screw the NCAA, this should become more an indictment on their system rather than an attack on these kids.
History is on the line. While I’d rather vacate wins than go on probation, I don’t want to lay down and let the NCAA do whatever they want to us. Screw the NCAA, this should become more an indictment on their system rather than an attack on these kids.
Don’t tell @MdWIldcat55 that! He’ll call you a troll! Even though what you said and I said is 100% true
When I joined this board I was told I better have thick skin. I never was one get personal. It just doesn't bring anything useful to the conversation. I hope you have a better day.
Didnt Teddy Bridgewater take a meal from Clint Hurt and nothing was ever done about that
Seems like you should keep playing Knox
Seems like you should keep playing Knox
Well you could look at the article and see the date of the loan was 2 years after he left KU....
What needs to happen for the NCAA to save face, is for them to make an announcement that they will investigate this on a large scale and establish a guideline for punishments That is fair and consistent across the board for all involved institutions. Because of how widespread, they should offer schools or the players involved the opportunity to pay restitution to charity in the amounts paid in order to not have games vacated from their schedule. Penalties should be as simple as that. Current named players should be pulled from competition. It will be hard to get the players to pay the restitution as many have moved on and may feel no obligation to. You may have a few that pony up out of loyalty their alma maters or coach if they feel so inclined, but not likely. Honestly the NCAA has done nothing to stop this and has allowed the corruption to manifest itself into this, so they need to take a lighter and consistent approach in terms of doling out punishments. Then the entire NCAA needs to revamp itself starting at the top after all is said and done. This should be one that everyone gets the same punishment, with only the amounts being different based on each institutions level of involvement.
Lmao! The head clown and troll makes his appearance.
like a meal is even on the NCAAs radar with this volume of information.
there is proof of thousands of dollars being paid to multiple players from different programs.
The meal investigation is going to amount to a letter telling the kid to send $40 to a steakhouse and quickly forgotten about.
there is proof of thousands of dollars being paid to multiple players from different programs.
The meal investigation is going to amount to a letter telling the kid to send $40 to a steakhouse and quickly forgotten about.
I don't much care what other schools are guilty of. We need to own up and act like men instead of trying to do the very things many of us have thrown barbs at schools like Louisville and North Carolina for doing the past several years. That crap rings pretty hollow.