Matt Bevin on Jurich

[canebreak]

I don’t understand the Governor’s position on Jurich. He has always touted himself as the fiscal conservative, law and order, man of God type. To each his own. But his stance on Jurich is essentially that he supports bringing him back.

One would think that someone who has taken 19 million from the school and ran the ship during three major scandals would be on his bad list. I wonder if this was happened being at UK?

I really am beyond amazed at the lack of accountability that has occurred for years at UL. I guess if you can raise money and build facilities it trumps the other holy requirements.

I’m being tongue and cheek, but I’m amazed how holier than thou folk pick and choose their battles.....and they never pick greed as a battle. UL is in a death spiral as a University because of a lack of priority so we support folks because they can build buildings. My goodness.

 

[Chuckinden]

Bevin is an idiot.

 

[akaukswoosh]

 

[ktbug]

Bevin could buy TJ's house on the cheap if he gets fired.......

 

[Cardsstink]

It truly is unbelievable what a cess pool it is over there.

 

[LadyCaytIL]

The guy is simply being a politician.

 

[morgousky]

I'm not sure what him being a conservative has to do with it. No one is perfect. Is he a rino? They suck.

If he's backing Jurich at UL, maybe he doesn't have all the facts, or maybe he's a politician.

 

[drbubba]

Gov, remember the gang of trustees you fired? He ran that mob. He'd fire you if he could.

 

[Midway Cat]

He's a Louisville guy, and Jurich has been a powerful figure in that city for a long time.

I actually expect Bevin to try to protect some of his UL-affiliated buddies as it becomes more and more obvious just how extensive the Yum! Center/Louisville Foundation fraud truly was.

 

[ZenCatFan73]

Conservative or not, Bevin is still an idiot. Jurich is slime and would turn on Bevin in an instant. No loyalty.

 

[Cats78]

Yikes. This can’t be a popular thread for most of the posters on this board. That said, I don’t care if he is conservative or not. All policies aside... He’s a phony, corrupt, idiot ahole. This is just another example.

 

[Pickle_Rick]

Maybe, just maybe, he wants the scandals to continue. Nah... you had it with being a politician. Professional courtesy between slimes.

 

[akaukswoosh]

If some of Jurich's powerful friends got him his job back, it could only backfire. It's a win-win for UK fans,

 

[deplion_rivals116063]

Bevin is an idiot.

On this, for sure, he is.

 

[Tannerdad]

I'm a Conservative and I think he's nuts.

And if he had any support from me, he lost it by backing Jurich.

 

[*Bleedingblue*]

Bevin was just acknowledging Jurich. Nothing more or less.
Did not want to alienate around a million people in the state whom hes gonna have to rely on for votes. They would all vote the blue party and it would prob be jurich. Lol

Hes doing what all politicians do and that is politics. In reality he prob thinks hes scum.

 

[Mike-D]

I'm not sure what him being a conservative has to do with it. No one is perfect. Is he a rino? They suck.

If he's backing Jurich at UL, maybe he doesn't have all the facts, or maybe he's a politician.

Or a complete moron

 

[O'boro Cat]

Yikes. This can’t be a popular thread for most of the posters on this board. That said, I don’t care if he is conservative or not. All policies aside... He’s a phony, corrupt, idiot ahole.

In other words, a typical Kentucky governor.

 

[BlueRattie_rivals]

In such situations, it's always advisable to get the context of the quote before making any rush decisions about who said it.

• The quote is from an interview given to WHAS in Louisville. So Bevin has to understand that he is speaking to an audience that has, sleaze or no sleaze, greatly benefited from Jurich's reign as AD at UofL. Understand that who the audience is greatly effects how politicians frame statements. Your policy for, say, coal production is the same in Lexington as it is in Pikeville, but how you talk about your policy will be very different.
• Bevin has to tread lightly in Louisville. There is a huge voting base there and he already has a reputation as someone who is "out to destroy" UofL. Remember, it was Bevin that cleaned house at UofL and appointed "Papa John" Schatnner to the board of trustees. (Schatnner then went on a public "screw Jurich" campaign).
• We need to remember that Jurich, while morally bankrupt, technically hasn't been convicted of anything. On message boards, we can let 'er rip with little fear of backlash--especially among like-minded people. Professional pol's, though, have to be careful of making damning statements that may come back to bite them in the ***.
• When you take these factors into account, it's clear that Bevin's full statement wasn't a ringing endorsement of Jurich. Instead, it was a series of rather benign platitudes--a bit of realpolitik. Bevin tempered his opinions about the situation in front of an audience of possibly hostile (potential) voters.
• This is just politics, folks. Move along, nothing to see here.

 

[School boy]

Tom is so bad he already knows he can't get another job. No one in the country wanted him before this mess, and now he will do what it takes to get back his old job.

But he's gone

 

[sambowieshin_rivals]

It's pretty simple why he supports Jurich.....$$$$$$$$$$$$$ and votes. Bevin is also an athletic supporter.

 

[kitkoodle]

Jurich knows where all the bodies are hidden, including ones in Frankfort

 

[awf]

Bevin is just another A-hole politician that lies out of both sides of his mouth.

 

[chroix]

Can you consider him a conservative if he supports someone who fleeced the state out of millions?

 

[Nubb16]

I hate politics but for those saying our governor is an idiot, well that's spot on. Bevin is an idiot and he will say things which do not make sense regularly simply because he makes stances that are senseless and has to then defend said stance. Once more I am maybe re least political person on here but I call a spade a spade, the guys is stupid- and he could have 23 PHDs and I would still think that.

 

[rick64]

Yes Jurich has done a lot of good for the university, but my goodness there's been an awful lot of bad to go along with it. These folks act like Jurich is the ONLY person who could be a successful AD at Stripper U.

 

[shaolin style]

Not surprising, this is the same guy who said he will veto any attempt to legalize recreational marijuana because people are overdosing on edibles in Colorado... (there are no reported overdoses to date). I wonder if he wants to start a new prohibition era too..

 

[Big John Stud]

In such situations, it's always advisable to get the context of the quote before making any rush decisions about who said it.

• The quote is from an interview given to WHAS in Louisville. So Bevin has to understand that he is speaking to an audience that has, sleaze or no sleaze, greatly benefited from Jurich's reign as AD at UofL. Understand that who the audience is greatly effects how politicians frame statements. Your policy for, say, coal production is the same in Lexington as it is in Pikeville, but how you talk about your policy will be very different.
• Bevin has to tread lightly in Louisville. There is a huge voting base there and he already has a reputation as someone who is "out to destroy" UofL. Remember, it was Bevin that cleaned house at UofL and appointed "Papa John" Schatnner to the board of trustees. (Schatnner then went on a public "screw Jurich" campaign).
• We need to remember that Jurich, while morally bankrupt, technically hasn't been convicted of anything. On message boards, we can let 'er rip with little fear of backlash--especially among like-minded people. Professional pol's, though, have to be careful of making damning statements that may come back to bite them in the ***.
• When you take these factors into account, it's clear that Bevin's full statement wasn't a ringing endorsement of Jurich. Instead, it was a series of rather benign platitudes--a bit of realpolitik. Bevin tempered his opinions about the situation in front of an audience of possibly hostile (potential) voters.
• This is just politics, folks. Move along, nothing to see here.

LOL, Bevin lost badly in Louisville and will lose badly in Louisville the next election. He's a typical Kentucky governor and will protect the good ole boy network. Y'all will defend and excuse anything as long as it lines up with your politics. That's pathetic if you ask me.

 

[GonzoCat90]

Can you consider him a conservative if he supports someone who fleeced the state out of millions?

Shhh. Politics has nothing to do with it even if his behavior is completely contradictory to what his party pretends to stand for. No terrible position by a politician is ever reflective of the overall party unless the other guys do it.

 

[bigbluegrog]

Yes Jurich has done a lot of good for the university, but my goodness there's been an awful lot of bad to go along with it. These folks act like Jurich is the ONLY person who could be a successful AD at Stripper U.

Jurich paid for hookers for both Bevin and Bill Lamb at WDRB (another staunch Jurich supporter).....they don't want that supply to dry up....

 

[CatsFan4Evr]

I'm a Conservative and I think he's nuts.

And if he had any support from me, he lost it by backing Jurich.

And yet you (and every other Conservative like you that's fed up with his ****) will still vote for him in the next gubernatorial election.

 

[BlueRattie_rivals]

LOL, Bevin lost badly in Louisville and will lose badly in Louisville the next election. He's a typical Kentucky governor and will protect the good ole boy network. Y'all will defend and excuse anything as long as it lines up with your politics. That's pathetic if you ask me.

Bevin lost Jefferson County by 38,000 votes. For a republican, that's not "loosing badly". In fact, it's the best any republican (I, myself, am not a republican) has done there in decades, even better than Fletcher, who won the governorship. Remember, the vast majority of the state is rural or semi-rural. Those counties will go red and go red big. Bevin doesn't have to win Lexington and Louisville, he just needs to stay within 50,000 votes or so and he'll be fine. Of course, Bevin doesn't win anything if not for the utter failure of Obama to hold his party together. The former president may have racked up his own electoral victories, but his policies were the death knell to democrat governors and legislators across the country.

Per Clare Malone @ 538.com: "At the beginning of Obama’s term, Democrats controlled 59 percent of state legislatures, while now they control only 31 percent, the lowest percentage for the party since the turn of the 20th century. They held 29 governor’s offices and now have only 16, the party’s lowest number since 1920." Obama's personal appeal was good for him, but he fractured his constituency, most notably, rural blue-collar workers. In the wake of this new electoral map, Kentucky went from purple to blood red very quickly. When I look at the county map of Kentucky (outside of Jefferson and Fayette counties), I see an ocean of people who either love Trumpism, hate democrats, or both. Unless the Dem's run a classic Dixiecrat, someone who can reforge ties to rural voters, I don't see how they can win.

 

[ZenCatFan73]

No matter how you try to spin it politically or otherwise, you cannot excuse Bevin for supporting Jurich. I don't care what Jurich has done for UL, Louisville, or the state financially.

 

[BlueRattie_rivals]

No matter how you try to spin it politically or otherwise, you cannot excuse Bevin for supporting Jurich. I don't care what Jurich has done for UL, Louisville, or the state financially.

My contention is that he is not supporting Jurich. Bevin merely said that Jurich was the AD during a time period when UofL athletics peaked (which is true). He also said that he is unsure if Jurich will be back or not (which is also true). At no time during the interview, to my knowledge, did he say anything like: "I support Jurich".

 

[Jmeeks54thebest]

The guy is simply being a politician.

This. Let's not forget that paper companies paid politicians to make hemp, and by association, marijuana illegal so that paper would have a monopoly in the market (hemp is like paper but better).

In addition, with all the greed and bribery at U of L it's not a far reach to suggest that TJ could be paying Bevin to support him.

Not saying this is happening (I have no evidence other than historical corruption from the US government and people with money) but we can't rule it out either.

 

[ZenCatFan73]

My contention is that he is not supporting Jurich. Bevin merely said that Jurich was the AD during a time period when UofL athletics peaked (which is true). He also said that he is unsure if Jurich will be back or not (which is also true). At no time during the interview, to my knowledge, did he say anything like: "I support Jurich".

Fair enough; however, it does sound like he is trying to appeal to his constituents. With respect, your post reads like you're a republican (which is fine), despite your claim that you aren't. It certainly seems biased.

 

[sefus12]

My contention is that he is not supporting Jurich. Bevin merely said that Jurich was the AD during a time period when UofL athletics peaked (which is true). He also said that he is unsure if Jurich will be back or not (which is also true). At no time during the interview, to my knowledge, did he say anything like: "I support Jurich".

No need to try and use common sense on this board. People see the name Bevin and Jurich together and have their mind up no matter what you say. I fully agree with what you are saying but others won't take the time to think about it rationally.

And no, I didn't vote for Bevin (before people start calling me names). I just know how to use common sense.

 

[Tannerdad]

And yet you (and every other Conservative like you that's fed up with his ****) will still vote for him in the next gubernatorial election.

How the hell do you know who I vote for? Didn't vote for Trump. Voted against Bevin in the primary and abstained in the general if you must know. Now saying that doesn't mean I'll vote Dem. Ever.

 

[ZenCatFan73]

No need to try and use common sense on this board. People see the name Bevin and Jurich together and have their mind up no matter what you say. I fully agree with what you are saying but others won't take the time to think about it rationally.

And no, I didn't vote for Bevin (before people start calling me names). I just know how to use common sense.

See, I have trouble reconciling someone using the term "common sense" and Bevin in the same breath.

Also -

.@GovMattBevin says he likes Tom Jurich & believes "he has done an extraordinary job. ... I'm not convinced (his career at U of L) is done"

— Jason Riley (@JasonRileyWDRB) October 10, 2017

 

[sefus12]

See, I have trouble reconciling someone using the term "common sense" and Bevin in the same breath.

Also -

.@GovMattBevin says he likes Tom Jurich & believes "he has done an extraordinary job. ... I'm not convinced (his career at U of L) is done"

— Jason Riley (@JasonRileyWDRB) October 10, 2017

Sounds like standard political drivel to me. What's he supposed to say on the Louisville show? "Yea, TJ screwed the university up and I hope he goes down in flames"?

We all think TJ is dirty as can be. I'd bet money he is. But to this point he isn't accused of anything other than manning a dirty ship. The Governer can't go on public radio and say things to the contrary.

And your first sentence proved the point I was making. The word "Bevin" had your mind made up on this before you read another word. Also, I never inferred Bevin was the one with common sense.