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And that is the EXACT reason we continue to see so much of Briscoe and Gabriel. Cal's gotta move them (and BAM, Fox and Monk) along at all costs to make room for the incoming recruits. It's also the same reason Cal spent so much post game time commenting on why the NBA scouting analysts were wrong about Bam not being ready for the NBA.
Just because you are a first round pick, doesn't mean you are ready for the NBA and doesn't mean it's the best thing for your long term success in the NBA. Yes, we have guys who are having great success after spending one year at UK, but for every one of those we have guys who are in the D-League or sitting on an NBA bench watching.
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I'm just afraid his loyalty to Briscoe will cost us in the tourney. Cal will never admit it, but Briscoe has a very slim chance at making it in the NBA. He's a slow guard who can't shoot, is a decent defender (at best) and has well below-average athleticism. The guy can't do anything at an elite level. As odd as it is, Willis may have a better shot finding a roster spot (simply for stretching the floor) than Briscoe. Yet Briscoe was labeled by Cal as the leader of this team well before the season started and Cal's ego (yes, he has one) won't let him turn Briscoe into a sixth man.
Within the first few games of this season, especially after UCLA and UL I knew this was going to be a frustrating season because Mulder wasn't going to get the clock he deserved in order to try to make Briscoe a first round pick, in most cases I've been supportive of Cal but not this one because sitting Mulder really hurts us. I also predicted we'd lose early in the tournament because of the same reason, one of our better players being buried on the bench all year. Mulder would be much better defensively and all around player had he been given a fair shake and even developed some last year like he should've been along with not being pulled every time he makes a mistake, the same mistakes Briscoe makes over and over and over.
When you do, you will see his man going around him, like he was nailed to the floor. He has been showing signs of improvement, in that area, but last night, his defense was extremely poor.
Even Tony Delk said Mulder needs to start over Briscoe. It's ******** that Briscoe gets to continue to make mistake after mistake and stay in the game. And I don't wanna hear about defense when our three McDonald All American guards let two high school guards named Quentin Snider and Donovan Mitchell go off on us. Monk had one rebound in like three games recently. So shut up with that. And I have no clue who Cal is trying to show Briscoe off to cause no way he's going to the NBA.
My brother and I talk about our team all the time and have this question. What does Briscoe give us that Mulder does not?
His D is not as good as the TV analysts with a cheat sheet that says he is a good defend say. He's not that much better than Mulder, and far less athletic.
He gets to the goal well, but can't finish anymore because he doesn't jump well and releases the ball low.
He turns it over way too much.
Mulder rebounds just as well, just doesn't get a chance to
Shooting is no contest and the biggest factor.
As Delk said and has been said on here many times, surround Fox with shooters and look out
His D is not as good as the TV analysts with a cheat sheet that says he is a good defend say. He's not that much better than Mulder, and far less athletic.
He gets to the goal well, but can't finish anymore because he doesn't jump well and releases the ball low.
He turns it over way too much.
Mulder rebounds just as well, just doesn't get a chance to
Shooting is no contest and the biggest factor.
As Delk said and has been said on here many times, surround Fox with shooters and look out
Agree 1000%. Some team may take a flyer on him with a second round pick, but he won't make a roster. Cal's ego simply won't let Briscoe's minutes be cut, no matter what it does to the team.
My argument is our offense sucks balls because we have 2 guards who can do absolutely nothing but try to shoot a layup. That's pretty easy to defend. Why do you think the offense flows better without Bridcoe? Because usually the person who has replaced him from the bench can at least shoot a little bit and keep his defender honest. It opens up the lane and our team does so much better at that point.
I think any advantage when Mulder plays is negated by the loss of what Briscoe does . He sets up a lot of our three point shooters and in fact he is the best at driving then kicking it out . Only Monk can create his own three point shot , the others need IB to get them an open shot . IB rebounds really good for his size on a team that needs rebounding badly . He's a better defender than Mulder no matter what you see on this board , an NBA scout sited Briscoes defense when evaluating UK players awhile back but what does he know .
There's more to it than just being able to shoot , I like Mulder and hope he is on fire when he enters the game but he is a situational player to me . If Mulder is hitting then he should play more and if not then the occasional breather substitute is fine , just like Cal has been doing . Mulder could go 5-6 from three against UF and that would be great but it doesn't mean you play him in lieu of Briscoe due to that one game .
I'd like to see a link to that scout's thoughts. If he really cited Briscoe's defense, I'm betting it wasn't said recently at all. As for the rest of your post lmao.
It was on the ksr website , go find it yourself . I consider you to be an outright dumbass on everything so I'm not surprised you let out a simpleton giggle . To go along with your campaign to fire Stoops and all the other horrible takes you've never once posted a single thing that I thought was funny , clever or intriguing .
In fact all of your posts have been a complaint or childish comment , every single post . For that reason I'm going to ignore the clown car you ride in , you bring absolutely zero to this board outside of childish whining . Now go ahead and get your tirade in because your personality won't let you be one upped . In the meantime I'll never see it .
There you got throwing rumors around like the are facts......."SKJ is probably going to transfer." I read everything I can find on the CATS. Other than a few idiots like you throwing the rumor around I have seen nothing to substantiate your claim......You also claim he didn't put in the work. That infers that he is lazy. You are always doing this. You must have a sad existence if you have to make up fake stories. Does it make you feel important to start and then spread this stupid stuff?
X, my point in this argument is that I know our team looks better with him on the bench. I don't care what his stats are, don't care what NBA scouts say. I'm not basing this on individual performances, but instead the team performance. The TEAM has played better while he has been out of the game, I really don't know how you can argue that. This isn't Mulder vs Briscoe or Willis vs Briscoe for me. I don't care if we have Johnny David in the game, if our team is somehow playing better with that lineup, don't you think we should stick to it? The last 2 games, Briscoe has gotten into foul trouble with the game close deep into the second half and we have went on huge runs to win the game. The man who replaced him might have not done jack **** as far as the score book says, but obviously what ever he (whoever came in for Briscoe) did while he was in made us look like a completely different team and we put our opponents away.
Mulder hustles his a$$ off for rebounds any time he's in the game. He hits 3's prlly more consistently then anyone we have. And if your knock against him is defense....then we need to put the entire team on the bench.
I don't care if you take Briscoe out. Hell, Monk has 5-6 stupid decisions a game, maybe take him out more. Whatever Cal decides to do, it MUST include more Mulder.
I don't care if you take Briscoe out. Hell, Monk has 5-6 stupid decisions a game, maybe take him out more. Whatever Cal decides to do, it MUST include more Mulder.
Using two instances during a whole season is not a pattern , I'm sure I could have found instances where Mulders time was a negative if I was on the hunt for such things . Thirty games and two whole times is not enough to sway my opinion .
I've came to a firm conclusion . Bass fan should stick to bass fishing . And I'm glad a boat load of fans are starting to accept reality about cal and minutes for certain players and minutes given to those that could advance the team better . his substitution pattern last night was awful . I'm not a hater , I dont want cal gone , but he's not above criticism either .
I think the answer is pretty simple. Cal values defense. Cal can only coach man to man defense. Mulder and Willis are terrible fits for Cal's style of man to man D. I love Cal, but his style is a bad fit for this team on the defensive side of the ball. Refusing to lean on and practice enough junk defenses will limit this team from making any worthy tournament run. Unless Cal thinks that the refs in the tourney will start calling it like days of old. Funnel the ball to a shot blocker has been a miserable fail this year with our roster and the new foul emphasis. Cal says that he can't hide players, but what that really means is he can't hide you on defense side of the ball in his system. He has a whole team that he needs to hide, but Mulder is near the top. More junk defense would have benefited this team, because you could focus on maximizing the offensive units, but seems a little late at this point. The coaches have left a lot on the table this season.
I'll make this my last post in this. Cal himself has said he won't be held hostage to playing a particular player too many minutes. I'm paraphrasing there but think that was the gist. Well I believe that is what is happening. I have always liked Briscoe. Think he is tough, rebounds very well and when he is in facilitator mode as he was against Tennessee is really effective. That was beautiful play from him. But he is playing too many minutes. I feel Mulder needs some of those minutes. In my opinion Fox and Briscoe should not be on the floor at the same time very much. Briscoe would be great as 6th man replacing Fox when he bogs down or tires. I know that won't happen, but I feel like that would be our best chance at making a run.
This is an opinion, and we can leave it at that. Cal is a recruiting GURU. Mulder will never make it at the next level. Those with the highest upside will get the majority of the minutes. When they mess up and need to be talked to, Mulder comes in. Heck, he is a 5-year guy that can ball. Should he get more minutes...probably so. But in this system...probably about right.
Wow, what a freaking clueless retard. I've never even posted in the football forum or brought up Stoops anywhere on this site so it's clear you have me mistaken for someone else and it's clear that you can't bring anything intellectual to the table so you resort to childish name calling. Just an all around terrible, clueless poster and miserable and likely very lonely person.
He should've transfered this summer, like SKJ he's too good to be sitting the bench. Dude can play and is the type that would drop 25 on us if he were at Texas A&M or somewhere.
SKJ is either Extremely overrated or he's in the doghouse. Neither are good. If he couldn't find minutes on this team with our holes, then he's probably in over his head.
All centered about the word probably and it's a forum for discussion so.....
Stop taking yourself so seriously around here. None of our pontificating amounts to an ant hill.
He's not worse than Willis, Monk or Fox in that regard. In his 9 mins last night, he got scored on twice (both jumpers). The only guard who is even decent at guarding drives to the lane is Hawkins and he is average at best at it.
Oh, was that Willis who got beat flat footed off the dribble and got dunked on by that stiff from Mizzou? No, that was Gabriel. Crickets from Cal after the play...
Bullitt Co mafia? Or reading issues? Reason I ask, is that I didn't single Willis out at all. You are either overly sensitive about Willis or didn't understand that the post was about Briscoe's defense.
No, you apparently have comprehension issues on what YOU wrote. I quote " Willis gives away the baseline like candy on Halloween." Was your account hacked and someone else inserted that text?
You cant base things on per 40 minutes I played about 2 minutes a game in high school shot 10 times scored 2 points. My 40 minutes per I was averaging 40 pts a game
You might want to rewatch the game because Mulder also let a guy blow right by him for a layup