2 seed here we come

[EliteBlue]

Um, okay.
-Arizona
-Baylor
-Oregon
-UL
-UNC
-UCLA
-Florida State
-West Virginia

I know you'll just say they all suck, but that's just because you live your life looking through blue glasses and you don't understand how this works.
UK is a 3, with a LOT of help they can get a 2, but they aren't a 2 right now.
That's a lot of teams to jump. Some of them can sustain 2 losses and remain a 2 seed. So, keep that in mind when you're starting a dozen threads a day about all these teams that suck.

1 of those teams will be a 1 seed and FSU is sliding hard and probably already a 3 seed.

That's leaves 6 others that you mentioned with UCLA and WVU being behind us per the released top 16. We need to beat Florida and a loss by a team or 2 but I wouldn't say it's "A LOT" of help since the odds of some of those teams losing is high. We just need to worry about finishing strong right now though.

I'd probably rather be the first 3 than the last 2 anyways so we get some geographical consideration

 

[Aike]

Problem is, our best upcoming competition is Florida, and the committee knows they are down a key guy.
Teams like Oregon can lose at UCLA or Arizona and stay right where they are. Same with UCLA and Arizona. If any of those teams lose on the road to one of the other two teams, they won't fall off that 2 line.
Same with Baylor. They lost to KU at home today, but they are probably still a 2 seed.

The committee seems to look more at our negatives, but they look at the positives of teams from stronger conferences.
Tonight's non loss (a win was expected) was huge for us. I still think we can get a 2, but the SEC really hurts us. We are looked down on because of this league.

You are giving too much credit to Oregon and Arizona, who have very similar resumes to us, and too much credit to the committee, who won't discount a win over Florida. They aren't going to drill down that far.

Baylor is a different story, because they have so many quality wins. I think they'll need to have a bit of a meltdown to drop below us.

More trouble for us would be teams like Tennessee falling out of the RPI top 50.

We might not be able to rise above the three line, but there's a pretty good chance we will if we win out.

 

[jarms24]

This is why they need to do a biweekly reveal up until SS.

 

[Aike]

I will say this...if we won out and Duke won out, they would pass us.

We definitely need some other teams to absorb losses even if we do win out.

I just don't think we need as much help as some others think. We need to take care of business.

As some others have said, being a three might not be the worst thing, considering it would make it easier to nab that South Region.

Assuming we win over Florida, we could be looking at a South that's 1. UNC 2. Baylor 3. UK. Little tougher first two games, but if they were in Indy we would have nothing to complain about.

 

[jarms24]

I will say this...if we won out and Duke won out, they would pass us

I agree, but I think they stumble. Their remaining slate ...

At Cuse
At Miami
FSU
At UNC

After giving up 90 to wake at home, I wouldn't be shocked to see them lose 3 of those games.

 

[ORCAT]

We could possibly end up a 2 with winning out and others losing some games. But, as of right now, there is no way we are currently a 2 seed at this time. That was the original point in the OP and he is just wrong. Not saying it can't happen but just going on today's date, we're a 3, at best.

 

[Aike]

We could possibly end up a 2 with winning out and others losing some games. But, as of right now, there is no way we are currently a 2 seed at this time. That was the original point in the OP and he is just wrong. Not saying it can't happen but just going on today's date, we're a 3, at best.

Yeah, we are not a 2 right now.

 

[Aike]

I agree, but I think they stumble. Their remaining slate ...

At Cuse
At Miami
FSU
At UNC

After giving up 90 to wake at home, I wouldn't be shocked to see them lose 3 of those games.

They should stumble. I'll be kind of surprised if they lose 3 of those but 2 sounds about right to me.

 

[bluekid]

I agree Not a 2 today. However, looking ahead. No doubt we will be. Louisville will stumble, Baylor will, FSU and Oregon will too. Gonzaga, Nova and Kansas are likely your 1s. After that. The other 1 and 2s will come from a group of

Arizona
UNC
Duke
Us
UCLA

 

[tmuck]

UL will lose at least 2, maybe 3 more games through the ACC tourney. I think we win out and take their 2 seed. They've been barely escaping against bad to mediocre teams at home, and Cuse on the road. They'll be brought back down to reality Wednesday night, and then again in the ACC tourney. Also wouldn't surprise me if they drop one at home to Cuse, or Notre Dame, or Wake on the road. In fact, i'm expecting it.

 

[kevcat]

If we win out, a two seed is possible. Any more losses and you can forget about a 2 seed.

 

[jboler]

I'm thinking we will get screwed, and we will be a four.

 

[Aike]

I'm thinking we will get screwed, and we will be a four.

If we lose again, that's very possible. Hard to see us slipping that far if we win out.

 

[Untouchables22]

At this point Gonzaga is a lock for the West, Kansas the Midwest and Villanova the East. UNC is in the driver's seat for the #1 in the South. But Duke, Louisville, Oregon, Arizona and still Baylor could get it by winning out. I respect Villanova but they have zero inside presence this year. Zero, none, nada, zilch either low post scoring or rim protection and the Big East doesn't punish you for that. I would much rather be in the East with Nova than in the south with UNC, Oregon, Arizona or Duke. Don't forget Nova had to have the best tournament shooting percentages of ALL TIME to win the title last year. It's really really hard to win the tournament with an outside shooting dominated team.

 

[Aike]

At this point Gonzaga is a lock for the West, Kansas the Midwest and Villanova the East. UNC is in the driver's seat for the #1 in the South. But Duke, Louisville, Oregon, Arizona and still Baylor could get it by winning out. I respect Villanova but they have zero inside presence this year. Zero, none, nada, zilch either low post scoring or rim protection and the Big East doesn't punish you for that. I would much rather be in the East with Nova than in the south with UNC, Oregon, Arizona or Duke.

I think I would prefer the South, just because I think we can have a crowd advantage.

A neutral site pro-UK crowd is tough to overcome.

 

[Chuckinden]

GD, people are clueless in this fan base...

Not really, UMM has just changed his medication and/or counselors. Whatever, he has turned over a new leaf, albeit from one extreme to the other.

 

[LineSkiCat14]

Some here have nailed it: a lot of the teams ahead of us still have to play each other, and then play in tougher conference tournaments like the ACC, Pac12, and big12.. There sre losses coming for some of the teams ahead of us.. Just have to capitalize.

 

[Untouchables22]

I think I would prefer the South, just because I think we can have a crowd advantage.

A neutral site pro-UK crowd is tough to overcome.

Surprisingly I don't think Nova travels all that well it's a small private catholic school with not a massive fanbase. If the choice is Nova in Madison Square Garden or North Carolina in Memphis. I actually think we could have a more UK dominated crowd at MSG because Carolina travels almost as well as us. Anybody on here go to Yum last year? How was the Kansas to Nova ratio of fans???

 

[John Henry]

Let's win all of our games and then talk about being a lock for a 2 seed. Can we do it, yes we can. But a lot of thing are going to have to happen in the next few weeks.

 

[Aike]

Surprisingly I don't think Nova travels all that well it's a small private catholic school with not a massive fanbase. If the choice is Nova in Madison Square Garden or North Carolina in Memphis. I actually think we could have a more UK dominated crowd at MSG because Carolina travels almost as well as us. Anybody on here go to Yum last year? How was the Kansas to Nova ratio of fans???

I just feel like a lot of UK fans already have tickets in Memphis, and many more would buy for the Final if we get that far.

The East we would be going against Villanova, probably an ACC team, and one other. You can bet it would be three fan bases against one, and less of our fans would travel last minute to New York.

But if we get to a Sweet 16 in either Memphis or NYC I'll be happy.

 

[rwtcat123]

If UK wins out they will be a 2 seed. As of now, I would say the committee has UK as number 9 or 10. We only need to jump 1 or 2 teams but to be in the South we need to jump 3 to 5 depending on who is left standing as it pertains to geography.

 

[HenryMuto]

If we win out a 2 seed is very possible but will they take other teams with better collection of wins over us even if they have more losses ?

Right now I still think we are 11 or 12 on the S-Curve. We can move up probably 1 spot by beating Florida on Saturday and jump them.

Right now my top 16 teams on the S-Curve as of today are

1. Villanova
2. Kansas
3. Gonzaga
4. North Carolina
5. Baylor
6. Louisville
7. Oregon
8. Arizona
9. Duke
10. Florida State
11. Florida
12. Kentucky
13. UCLA
14. West Virginia
15. Purdue
16. Virginia or Butler

Florida State has a big collection of nice wins and a lot of top 50 wins so I don't think we have passed them yet but it is awfully close.
UCLA is barely behind us because of lack of non conf SOS and lack of top 50 wins even though they beat us at Rupp. They could still pass us if they win at Arizona and win out until the Pac 12 Finals. The good news for us is if UCLA passes us then Arizona or Oregon should fall below us I can't see all 3 staying ahead of us because they will beat each other up in the final 3 weeks before Selection Sunday.

Duke is on a roll they likely will not fall below us from here on out.

Our ceiling might be 8 which would be fine since whoever from Pac 12 is at 5,6,7 will go out West so despite being 8 we still stay closer to home. Ideally we would like the South.

Have to win out and win the SEC tournament to likely have any shot at a 2 seed though the committee has shown to ignore the result of the SEC tournament (see last year A&M a 3 seed us a 4 seed) so if we just make the SEC tournament after winning out to get there maybe we get a 2 with a loss to Florida in the SEC tournament if the committee decides not to worry about the game again though there is also a chance they just flat put us as a 3 seed so win or lose they can not worry about SEC tournament which is our biggest worry I think. If we don't have a lock down on the 2 seed before Sunday the day of the SEC tournament we may never get there even with a win.

 

[Aike]

If we win out a 2 seed is very possible but will they take other teams with better collection of wins over us even if they have more losses ?

Right now I still think we are 11 or 12 on the S-Curve. We can move up probably 1 spot by beating Florida on Saturday and jump them.

Right now my top 16 teams on the S-Curve as of today are

1. Villanova
2. Kansas
3. Gonzaga
4. North Carolina
5. Baylor
6. Louisville
7. Oregon
8. Arizona
9. Duke
10. Florida State
11. Florida
12. Kentucky
13. UCLA
14. West Virginia
15. Purdue
16. Virginia or Butler

Florida State has a big collection of nice wins and a lot of top 50 wins so I don't think we have passed them yet but it is awfully close.
UCLA is barely behind us because of lack of non conf SOS and lack of top 50 wins even though they beat us at Rupp. They could still pass us if they win at Arizona and win out until the Pac 12 Finals. The good news for us is if UCLA passes us then Arizona or Oregon should fall below us I can't see all 3 staying ahead of us because they will beat each other up in the final 3 weeks before Selection Sunday.

Duke is on a roll they likely will not fall below us from here on out.

Our ceiling might be 8 which would be fine since whoever from Pac 12 is at 5,6,7 will go out West so despite being 8 we still stay closer to home. Ideally we would like the South.

Have to win out and win the SEC tournament to likely have any shot at a 2 seed though the committee has shown to ignore the result of the SEC tournament (see last year A&M a 3 seed us a 4 seed) so if we just make the SEC tournament after winning out to get there maybe we get a 2 with a loss to Florida in the SEC tournament if the committee decides not to worry about the game again though there is also a chance they just flat put us as a 3 seed so win or lose they can not worry about SEC tournament which is our biggest worry I think. If we don't have a lock down on the 2 seed before Sunday the day of the SEC tournament we may never get there even with a win.

You figure Duke jumped 7 spots in a week by virtue of that win at Virginia?

Don't think you're right about that. But if they keep winning, they probably will jump us.

 

[turkeywildturkey]

Should not even be a question now

The way we are playing, we are not a 2 seed. Not even close. 4 seed maybe.

 

[ulismyman]

The way we are playing, we are not a 2 seed. Not even close. 4 seed maybe.

Thats just moronic..no offense

 

[HenryMuto]

You figure Duke jumped 7 spots in a week by virtue of that win at Virginia?

Don't think you're right about that. But if they keep winning, they probably will jump us.

You may be right I certainly could be off on that but winning a road game vs a protected seed team is huge something we don't have.