Briscoe as a junior

[armchairpg]

If this is about what is best for him he should stay, get his degree and then try to play ball over seas as long as he can then get a real job.


Yeah school is hard. Try getting a decent job without a degree. That is harder. Better to sacrifice now than sacrifice the rest of your life as pops used to say.

 

[jrpross_rivals]

Just curious, where do you think Briscoe is going?

Same place the Harrison's and Dakari Johnson went.

 

[shutzhund]

I see a guy who didn't get the ball to the team's best player, tried to be a hero and made this a game when it didn't have to be. When you are given the moniker of a team being "Your team" and you just had 1 on 1 meetings with Coaching Staff and announcers even mention "Malik Monk needs to touch the ball more--and demand it"--well--you want to be a PG at any level--get the damn lottery pick the ball! Notice that UK hadn't made a FG in last 4 minutes--and noticed who wasn't touching the ball? He gets it, ties it, takes over OT and you win. What a novel concept, the NBA top 5 pick, future All Star getting the ball instead of a marginal, turnover prone, bowling ball who is a PF in a guard's body.

Playing hard isn't playing well. Bitching in the offseason about your role with the incoming guards and then getting an opportunity and having a combined 14 Turnovers in 2 games Fox hasn't played isn't the best way to prove a point. This is a UGA team that got worked by Alabama by 20 in Athens. I don't care who was/wasn't there--the PG sets the tone and the tone was a 12 pt margin to dig out of, no rhythm and a lot of guys having to figure out how to play with you--again.

Happy for you all that you won--but I don't want to see Briscoe near the '18 team. He can take his style of play back to NYC and go to SJU before I'd want him near the incoming class.

You sound like you watched the game but didn't understand what you saw. Did you notice what the defense did to deny Monk the ball? Of course not.

 

[jrpross_rivals]

My one and ONLY complaint about the Calipari era: It's a foregone conclusion that a guy like Briscoe is leaving early and will not stay 4 years. If he is at any other school he is staying.

I brought this up a couple months ago and got roasted for it. Briscoe is a 4 year guy if I've ever seen one.

Man, I am right there with you. Cal brings in the best talent every year and I am thrilled with that. But the problem is, kids that want to be in the NBA right now and have no desire to be in school are the ones most attracted to Kentucky. Dakari Johnson would have been a perfectly serviceable five-man this year and last. But we have this stigma of "that's where I can be a pro the fastest" and that's why a lot of them come. The minute Ortin and Bledsoe left, I was afraid of the precedent it would set.

 

[buster3.0]

If this is about what is best for him he should stay, get his degree and then try to play ball over seas as long as he can then get a real job.


Yeah school is hard. Try getting a decent job without a degree. That is harder. Better to sacrifice now than sacrifice the rest of your life as pops used to say.

You can't even get a high school coaching job, much less college, without a college degree. I guess coaching AAU ball or elementary school kids is an option. After these guy's short lived DLeague or overseas playing career is over, I wonder if they ever put any thought into what the heck they would do for the rest of their lives.

 

[Padsfs07]

You can't even get a high school coaching job, much less college, without a college degree. I guess coaching AAU ball or elementary school kids is an option. After these guy's short lived DLeague or overseas playing career is over, I wonder if they ever put any thought into what the heck they would do for the rest of their lives.

Who are you referring to exactly? For instance, both of the Harrisons are multi-millionaires. Dakari Johnson is still just 21 years old and he and Poythress are both putting up around 18 and 8 in the D-League. Both would get substantial European contracts. All of these players are likely able to come back to UK for free and get their degrees and they would still be under-30 years old.

 

[armchairpg]

Who are you referring to exactly? For instance, both of the Harrisons are multi-millionaires. Dakari Johnson is still just 21 years old and he and Poythress are both putting up around 18 and 8 in the D-League. Both would get substantial European contracts. All of these players are likely able to come back to UK for free and get their degrees and they would still be under-30 years old.

I looked up Aaron and it says he has earned $365,289 so far. After taxes, an agent, etc. that is not that much money and it could dry up at any point. So the degree is an important factor long term. I don't know how it works when you leave early. Do all players get to come back and get the degree for free? If so, then yeah earn as much as you can playing ball then come back and finish the degree while living off your earnings.

 

[far_away_fan]

Every player has weaknesses in their game. And in every case, it is POSSIBLE that another season in college COULD potentially improve those weaknesses. But if the extra year doesn't demonstrate that improvement, it further cements the case in the minds of scouts that the weakness is a permanent one.

So that's the tradeoff. If you stay, you can either remove concerns or cement them. If you go, you get drafted on the hypothetical that you might improve in the NBA.

Given that the glaring weakness in Briscoe's game last season was his shooting, and given that the glaring weakness in his game this season is his shooting, it's unclear that staying would be likely to help his draft stock. He seems unable (or unwilling) to improve that area, so why take a third season to convince the NBA that he can't shoot?

 

[Hoskins91_rivals]

Fixed it relative to what? Sure, personally he's better than last year, but that doesn't make him an NBA caliber. It just means the bar was set really low from last year to show improvement.

Truth is he's a late 2nd rounder right now. Why would you leave knowing that, knowing the % of d-leaguers who make it up is extremely slim. Instead you can play two more years getting tons of exposure. Nobody in their right mind thought Frank Mason was a POY type...until his senior year. Briscoe has much better size, so nothing's to say he can't get that type of hype his senior year. Has to be better than a decent college player who is forgotten in June if he leaves.

None of that is going to change him being a second rounder. The only reason he'd come back is if he thinks it would significantly change his draft position. Some of his limitations are never going away, which means that is unlikely.

 

[TheBlueDisciple]

None of that is going to change him being a second rounder. The only reason he'd come back is if he thinks it would significantly change his draft position. Some of his limitations are never going away, which means that is unlikely.

Sophomore year I think can be premature to judge a guy as called out. Plenty of guys kick it into another gear in years 3 and 4. That can only help your status. Not going to get any worse really either, so why not take that chance (even if you think it's small) to improve your game/draft position vs a guaranteed 2nd round or worse.

That logic just doesn't make sense.

 

[LineSkiCat14]

Briscoe is another year wiser, and has had another 365 days to realize that his current game isn't made for the NBA. He very well may realize that he's in this for the long-haul, or at least another year. Being the man in HS and struggling in many areas at the college level, can be a sobering experience.

What he thought about his pro-chances this time last, could be much different this year.

 

[Dream Team 13]

Should try out for Coach Stoops. I think he'd be one heck of a football player.

 

[TheBlueDisciple]

Should try out for Coach Stoops. I think he'd be one heck of a football player.

Yes. Maybe his switchover will go more smoothly than Paulus', lol.

 

[Jakarii]

Nope hasn't hit his popeyes ceiling because he can get better at a couple aspects like shooting and decision making just like 100% of college sophomores. You can always get better, their is no ceiling at 20 unless you're perfect at everything

I think he's probably hit his college ceiling. IMO, the only way he could make a meaningful improvement would be to maybe get lighter/quicker and maybe work on the hops. He may not play in the NBA for 10 years, but he'll make good money playing ball somewhere. Love his grit though. His value is priceless to this team.

 

[Jakarii]

Why do that when he's going to make six Figures playing basketball and a good chance (which every nba scout says) of playing in the NBA

Should try out for Coach Stoops. I think he'd be one heck of a football player.

 

[mattrudd]

The league is filled with role players .He has a warriors heart and a toughness that seems to be missing in a lot "elite " players .
I think he should come back but he doesn't deserved to be clowned continuely by his own fan base.

 

[Bgognat03]

I see a guy who didn't get the ball to the team's best player, tried to be a hero and made this a game when it didn't have to be. When you are given the moniker of a team being "Your team" and you just had 1 on 1 meetings with Coaching Staff and announcers even mention "Malik Monk needs to touch the ball more--and demand it"--well--you want to be a PG at any level--get the damn lottery pick the ball! Notice that UK hadn't made a FG in last 4 minutes--and noticed who wasn't touching the ball? He gets it, ties it, takes over OT and you win. What a novel concept, the NBA top 5 pick, future All Star getting the ball instead of a marginal, turnover prone, bowling ball who is a PF in a guard's body.

Playing hard isn't playing well. Bitching in the offseason about your role with the incoming guards and then getting an opportunity and having a combined 14 Turnovers in 2 games Fox hasn't played isn't the best way to prove a point. This is a UGA team that got worked by Alabama by 20 in Athens. I don't care who was/wasn't there--the PG sets the tone and the tone was a 12 pt margin to dig out of, no rhythm and a lot of guys having to figure out how to play with you--again.

Happy for you all that you won--but I don't want to see Briscoe near the '18 team. He can take his style of play back to NYC and go to SJU before I'd want him near the incoming class.

You must not see well then....

 

[Bgognat03]

Sad but true...which is why, IMO, he might as well come back for his Jr. season. It's not like China is going any where.

Yea, going to China and making a couple million a year to do what he loves is just sad. Makes me want to be sad, too.

 

[Bgognat03]

He fixed them to a degree. He's still a poor shooter and will be viewed by scouts as such (don't cite the %'s, please).

As others have said, I can't imagine him returning given how long he deliberated after last season. Seems clear he wants to start getting paid, and he'll be able to do just that overseas somewhere for the foreseeable future.

HAHAHA, you should have just said please don't cite the evidence that proves my assessment wrong.

 

[MychalG]

I love Briscoe's heart and attitude on the court.. 33 rebounds in the last 3 games from a player his size..I will take that on my team each and every day..He is as good a driver to the basket as there is in college, however I don't know if he will be able to get to the rim like that in the NBA. He is a good jumper but not an explosive jumper. His shot has improved, very impressed with his FT shooting. I used to cringe when he went to the line last year but this year, I have confidence he can knock them down. But not sure if he has shown enough consistency in his 3 pt shot to be considered a threat, so that may hurt him down the road..I would like to see him comeback to once again add leadership to the team and back court next season however I am sure he is good as gone..