Roy Williams vs Mike Krzyzewski

wromanp7

All-American
May 25, 2003
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I think Roy is way overrated.
He is by far the coach that's done the least with the most talent. Not even debatable.

K is one of the best coaches ever of any sport. Not really his fault he gets all the do-no-wrong treatment ... though that seems to have diminished greatly, thankfully.

I respect K as a coach.. don't care for him at all other than that.

EXACTLY the opposite for Roy. I'd go fishing with him but would rather have K coach Kentucky than Roy.
 

TNCatfanforever

Heisman
Apr 3, 2003
22,064
13,928
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I think Roy is way overrated.
He is by far the coach that's done the least with the most talent. Not even debatable.

K is one of the best coaches ever of any sport. Not really his fault he gets all the do-no-wrong treatment ... though that seems to have diminished greatly, thankfully.

I respect K as a coach.. don't care for him at all other than that.

EXACTLY the opposite for Roy. I'd go fishing with him but would rather have K coach Kentucky than Roy.
Don't like him but K can coach and I always want him at UK until we got King Cal
 

WildmanWilson_rivals

All-Conference
Oct 11, 2010
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Roy is a crybaby cheating piece of crap. What other coach will have an opposing fan thrown out?

K is a good coach but not as squeaky clean as everyone wants to make him out. He will go down as on of the best however.
 
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Aike

Heisman
Mar 17, 2002
75,435
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Pure coaching, Roy isn't that far behind K. Hard to bag on a guy's coaching ability when he wins 3/4 of his tournament games.
 

irishcat1965

Heisman
Apr 22, 2012
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44,519
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The only reason I kind of like Roy is he roasted Jerry Tipton after a UK game a few years ago in the post game conference.
 
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Sithlyone

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Apr 12, 2012
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I'm not sure what he could have done about it, but I have a hard time believing that K would have stood for the Academic fraud that UNC has perpetuated over the years. He has many flaws but I dont think he will stoop that low.

So, as far as respect, I would have to go with coach K.
 

wromanp7

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May 25, 2003
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Obviously no non U.K. fan likes Cal... so this is a good thread that proves we are the superior human beings.
 

nickhorvathsuxazz

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Have to agree with cawood...K's a hypocritical SOB who's main contribution to the game has been the introduction of the flop as a defensive maneuver.
 
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scoopinnena

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This ^^^^^ But IMO K is the biggest hypocrite in sports. Not even close. Complete phony and fake. I'd bet Duke and K has cheated as much or more than UNCC ever did.. and still is... Years from now the truth will come out. Just like UCLA and Sam Gilbert
Just shows how ignorant UK fans are by saying these absurd words,and pics of our Coach k? No one is in his league of coaching and developing young men for years . Your team has had their share of thugs that was well known before they came to UK . As long as they can put the ball in the basket you take them. Through the years there have been many sanctions on UK so don't try to be so sqeaky clean. Take care of your own shortcomings and let others boards take care of theirs. It's so hilarious that you cannot talk one day on your board without saying something derogatory against Duke. Coach K. UNC, or KU. We all must really bother you and make you terrified That one of the above might end higher and better than you. So Jealous. We don't have to say how good we are, we just prove it. Coach K's record speaks for itself! Good players with good character and good academics. Best Coach of all Time!!
 

Wall2Boogie

Heisman
Jan 28, 2010
26,239
21,732
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IMO, K is the better coach, but I'd rather have a beer with Roy. K just seems really fake, and Roy is seems like a laid back kinda guy.
Roy don't drink no beer, simply Coke: I'm sure on their bench is an unlimited amount of Gatorade, water, amfam class schedules, and of course Coke. You can never have too many cokes
 
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irishcat1965

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Apr 22, 2012
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Just shows how ignorant UK fans are by saying these absurd words,and pics of our Coach k? No one is in his league of coaching and developing young men for years . Your team has had their share of thugs that was well known before they came to UK . As long as they can put the ball in the basket you take them. Through the years there have been many sanctions on UK so don't try to be so sqeaky clean. Take care of your own shortcomings and let others boards take care of theirs. It's so hilarious that you cannot talk one day on your board without saying something derogatory against Duke. Coach K. UNC, or KU. We all must really bother you and make you terrified That one of the above might end higher and better than you. So Jealous. We don't have to say how good we are, we just prove it. Coach K's record speaks for itself! Good players with good character and good academics. Best Coach of all Time!!
Did you get out of the third grade? I'm not usually the grammar police, but you are truly uneducated.
 

Fitch44

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Just shows how ignorant UK fans are by saying these absurd words,and pics of our Coach k? No one is in his league of coaching and developing young men for years . Your team has had their share of thugs that was well known before they came to UK . As long as they can put the ball in the basket you take them. Through the years there have been many sanctions on UK so don't try to be so sqeaky clean. Take care of your own shortcomings and let others boards take care of theirs. It's so hilarious that you cannot talk one day on your board without saying something derogatory against Duke. Coach K. UNC, or KU. We all must really bother you and make you terrified That one of the above might end higher and better than you. So Jealous. We don't have to say how good we are, we just prove it. Coach K's record speaks for itself! Good players with good character and good academics. Best Coach of all Time!!

oh how cute, a puke fan talking about basketball is like the 40 year old virgin talking about tits and ***. Did you really say good character?? Puke basketball is about to fall apart...k's back doesn't have much left after all these years of down eating cheese, poster boy Gracie is one loose ball away from sitting out the rest of the year. Capel is more concerned with Hometown Buffet than coaching...and on and on.

Eat a bag of dicks duke fans.
 
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UofKCatsFan

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I respect how Carolina players go about their business on the court. You hardly ever see one whinning, flopping or tripping. They usually look like a respectful bunch compared to self entitled Dukies. For that reason I'm going with Roy.
 

scoopinnena

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Did you get out of the third grade? I'm not usually the grammar police, but you are truly uneducated.
You are the uneducated one and are just like the rest of the U.K. fans on this forum. Hillbilly's!!!!Their grammar, and dirty language , are sad on a University board. Maybe you will make it to # 1 and stay there for one week. When you , we all don't pay attention as UK is a nobody to us. We are champions on and off the court. Bye Bye!!
 

caneintally

Heisman
Oct 1, 2002
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Roy is a crybaby cheating piece of crap. What other coach will have an opposing fan thrown out?

K is a good coach but not as squeaky clean as everyone wants to make him out. He will go down as on of the best however.
This is spot on . K can really coach and is one of the top greatest college coaches of all time but he is shady and thinks he is above everyone else. Roy is a decent coach and has won 2 titles but he isn't in the Cal/izzo/K / Pitino elite league. He belongs in the next group with guys like Beoheim , Self ect . Good coaches , just not great.
 

scoopinnena

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oh how cute, a puke fan talking about basketball is like the 40 year old virgin talking about tits and ***. Did you really say good character?? Puke basketball is about to fall apart...k's back doesn't have much left after all these years of down eating cheese, poster boy Gracie is one loose ball away from sitting out the rest of the year. Capel is more concerned with Hometown Buffet than coaching...and on and on.

Eat a bag of dicks duke fans.
Your language proves just what I said, no character and vulgar nasty mouth. You have been hoping for years that it was K's last year, but he is coming back stronger than ever. Duke will be back, so keep your eyes on the rankings and the tourney. Keep on saying how good UK is, playing such good competition in the SEC. Maybe it will get u to a # 1 seed.
 

LineSkiCat14

Heisman
Aug 5, 2015
39,109
61,422
113
Most would put their money on kentucky being a #1 seed. Some did it this week. Also.. Coach K is on his way out. Health issues, can't hack it in the One and Done, and the media finding out who he truly is.
 
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LineSkiCat14

Heisman
Aug 5, 2015
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Stop talking about grammar when you write like it's a text message. "You", not "u".

I'm honestly amazed one of the most pathetic know-nothing fanbases actually showed up today.. You guys never come around when your team is tanking.. Enjoy that 5 seed and another early flameout.. In one of the most dissapointing teams in college basketball history.
 
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Panthur

Heisman
Aug 5, 2008
9,225
12,782
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Honestly, I don't feel I've been given a fair shot at evaluating K. I want to like him as an Xs and Os guy. But it's so hard to tell with that whistle and those seedings. My sense is he really is above average at Xs and Os, but not superstar. Somewhere around where Pearl is. If you switched 'em in a "Being John Malkovich" fashion, both schools would maintain their exact current results imo, as long as no one else knew it was Pearl in K's body at Duke and vice versa at Auburn. No question at all K's an elite motivator. His recruiting is again tied to stuff I've not been able to see on a level playing field, but given his Olympic run he'd pretty much have to stay a top 5 recruiter no matter what, at least in the current era which doesn't have many bluebloods.

Roy to me is basically Bill Self with a better marketing division. Self seems a little better with true big men but Roy plays a little bigger at the 3 and 4 so it all balances out.
 

feel_the_mashburn

Sophomore
Nov 19, 2016
350
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Sorry, but give my Roy any day of the week over K. K allows rapists to play on his team. He teaches his players to take cheap shots, flop, whine, *****, moan, and so on. Not to mention, K's record would be a lot worse if they didn't get all the calls they get. Also, only K can take top teams and lose the Mercer's and Lehigh's of the world. K is a loser, who's benefited from having just about every meaningful call.
 

CatsnRoses

All-Conference
May 13, 2007
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K's a better coach, Roy's a more likable person. Just my take from afar, but I feel pretty confident in it.

And I'm by no means a fan of Roy, just using likable in a comparative context.
 

OhioDukeFan32

Redshirt
Feb 27, 2015
69
15
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K is one of the top 2 college coaches of all time. His records of wins (1,000+) and NCAA Tournament wins (90) never be touched, and he's not done yet, :)
 

OhioDukeFan32

Redshirt
Feb 27, 2015
69
15
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Unlike some Duke fans, I always respected Roy-Will and he would fall historically a notch below K with coaches like Boeheim, Pitino, and Cal
 

irishcat1965

Heisman
Apr 22, 2012
20,775
44,519
113
You are the uneducated one and are just like the rest of the U.K. fans on this forum. Hillbilly's!!!!Their grammar, and dirty language , are sad on a University board. Maybe you will make it to # 1 and stay there for one week. When you , we all don't pay attention as UK is a nobody to us. We are champions on and off the court. Bye Bye!!
Res Ipsa Loquitur. Good luck in your next Special Olympics event.