Does Briscoe hurt the offense?
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perhaps so.....
but also consider (and I'm sure you have, you're a level headed person) The other team doesn't score as much when he's out there
Of course. I'm only talking about the offense. I don't think there's any question we are a better overall team with him out there.
It's sorta a give and take and finding the best balance. Like most people feel Hawkins is one of our best defenders. But on offense, he's not good. Willis is good offensively but not great defensively. In the long run I guess it's all about finding that right balance between the two.
agreed
I think Briscoe doesn't hurt on offense - he's kinda neutral (couple of other guys could shoot the same), but it's his defense that gives his offense a net value.
Or something like that - my head is stuffy today, can't think too straight, LOL
good lord people. when he's in the balls going to the rim. he's the best at it and that's we let him do it. when he's out we have to swing it more. and it makes perfect sense.
I have to admit I've thought the same thing while watching these last couple games. It certainly doesn't help spacing when he's out there since his man is often just going to sag off 5-6 feet and play as a help defender/floater.
Obviously he's great at getting to the basket and he contributes in other ways (defensively, rebounding, good on the break), but I think we're a more efficient offensive team when he's not on the floor.
Obviously he's great at getting to the basket and he contributes in other ways (defensively, rebounding, good on the break), but I think we're a more efficient offensive team when he's not on the floor.
No he doesn't. The last two games stats looked good because the teams were awful. UK could have had those stats without Monk and Fox as well. Fox does the same thing that Briscoe does at times where he will take a three or jumper instead of swinging the ball so it's not just Briscoe who forces things at times
Dumb post. Briscoe is 2nd on the team in steals per game, 3rd on the team in assists per game, and 2nd on the team in points per game. He is a better distributor than Fox, although Calipari obviously has no problem With either of them penetrating and finishing at the rim. Briscoe is also 1 of the top rebounding guards in the country. Find another player to pick on.
Do you watch these games? Briscoe is shooting the best percentage from the floor among the starting guards. Better than Fox or Monk. Briscoe is the 2nd leading scorer on our team.
I wouldn't say so. Briscoe is the leader on and off the court. With a slew of new players it takes time for teams to mesh until they hit their optimum groove. Briscoe has been through the wars and sets a good example for toughness and hustle. Qualities it take to win on the big stage. Plus the other players see him frequently doing extra work in the gym after practice, working on his shot and improving his game. Briscoe is a very talented player with a lot of intangibles.
The thing you've got to love about Briscoe is his ability to drive and score at will. Last year @ UCLA Ulis was injured; Lee was limited to 4 minutes with a head injury; and Poy was in foul trouble. Briscoe was the high scorer with 20 points in 27 minutes. UCLA couldn't stop him and neither can anyone else.
Yup, you guys are right. Our offense has looked a lot better against Cleveland State and UT-Martin than it did against Michigan State.
All I wanna know is if someone can clarify whether or not Briscoe is elite at the rim or not?! Better yet, I wanna know if he's better at the rim than Luke Kennard?! That bunch on the national board, though. :joy:
NO and hell no. He is an excellent finisher and team player. We need him to make a run at the title this year and I am so thankful he came back.
Briscoe is my guy. Love the way he plays.
That being said, he does hurt the offense when he takes long jump shots early in the possession. But so does Fox. And so does Monk really, but he makes some of his bad shots so its not as big of an issue.
This team has looked really good so far against admittedly weak competition. One of the possible weaknesses I see is efficiency in the half court offense. And a lot of that is due to the guards shot selection. I know that Cal wants Briscoe and Fox to shoot open jumpers so that they will have confidence in their shots and the opposition will have to guard it. But the reality is that Briscoe and Fox shooting from more than 10 feet out is a very inefficient shot. I don't want to see those shots with more than 10 seconds on the shot clock.
Briscoe is not a great passer either. But his weaknesses are more than offset by his skill in breaking down a defense and his ability to finish in the paint. He is truly excellent at those two things.
That being said, he does hurt the offense when he takes long jump shots early in the possession. But so does Fox. And so does Monk really, but he makes some of his bad shots so its not as big of an issue.
This team has looked really good so far against admittedly weak competition. One of the possible weaknesses I see is efficiency in the half court offense. And a lot of that is due to the guards shot selection. I know that Cal wants Briscoe and Fox to shoot open jumpers so that they will have confidence in their shots and the opposition will have to guard it. But the reality is that Briscoe and Fox shooting from more than 10 feet out is a very inefficient shot. I don't want to see those shots with more than 10 seconds on the shot clock.
Briscoe is not a great passer either. But his weaknesses are more than offset by his skill in breaking down a defense and his ability to finish in the paint. He is truly excellent at those two things.
It's not that simple. It's about efficiency and spacing. Just because he has a high shooting % doesn't mean our entire offense runs better with him on the floor.
No. This team is much better with Briscoe on the floor. Now, against No Name University, it's not going to matter but against a solid team it will (see Mich St).
I'm going to go out on a limb and consider the OP not a troll for a sec just for fun and try to give a couple reasons for what the OP and some other posters might have noticed over the last two games to give off this sorta let's say offensive, "illusion" with Briscoe on the bench.
1. Playing against Inferior Competition
2. A UK team that is dramatically improving EACH game.
3. More perimeter threats on the floor at one time = somewhat better spacing.
4. Increased productivity by Mulder, Hawkins, and Gabriel.
I'm going to go out on a limb and consider the OP not a troll for a sec just for fun and try to give a couple reasons for what the OP and some other posters might have noticed over the last two games to give off this sorta let's say offensive, "illusion" with Briscoe on the bench.
1. Playing against Inferior Competition
2. A UK team that is dramatically improving EACH game.
3. More perimeter threats on the floor at one time = somewhat better spacing.
4. Increased productivity by Mulder, Hawkins, and Gabriel.
According to some other guy on here,, 1/7 would be about 0.71% or something..
You do realize that Hawkins replaced Briscoe in both games that he missed. So if you like the offense without Briscoe you must like Hawkins better, see my point?
You apparently are thinking more clearly than the OP.
That's the thing. Hawkins is not really looking to do anything on offense. With Briscoe it runs through him.
With that said I'll take Briscoe all day,of course
and what is Willis' 3 point percentage? :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye: