ESPN: Simmons promised #1 pick

jte123

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really not a fan of Simmons and his attitude so I hope he goes to Philly and they continue to suck. He will probably be a great player but Philly makes me laugh, I keep seeing how excited they are the Embid is cleared to practice. How long has it been this dude been on the court.
 
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dvillecatfan

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hope they can trade Okafor and draft either Dunn or Murray. Embiid been cleared to scrimmage..76ers on the way back!!!
 
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EdHochuli'sTriceps

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they took it very slow with embiid. odds are still against him having a career where he's available for 65+ games year in and year out IMO, but if he does manage to stay healthy, he's damned near as talented as KAT

if embiid can't get/stay healthy, and they're not dumb, they still have simmons and noel at the 4 & 5--two extremely fast big players who can play pick and roll together

just please god get rid of okafor he's such a drain on everything
 

GonzoCat90

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Don't think there's any debate. He's the most talented player in the draft. When you're that bad, take the talent.
 

Quincey24

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Shooting is something that you can get better at. Easily the best talent in the draft and in many past drafts. Rarely do you have a 6'10 point forward who weighs 240 yet moves like a guard and checks the box in just about every category. I could see if this was Skal we were talking about but this guy not only shows talent in workouts but also against competition

Simmons cant shoot he is not the clear cut number one.
 

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Just trying to draft talent and throw them together is not a strategy. No one knows how these guys will play together or if they even really complement each other. 76ers will be horrible for a long long time. The NBA is very concerned, they basically implanted their own expert to help them dig out of this hole.

Given the top draft picks they have had, there is NO ONE another team would covet. They are stuck with unproven players. Simmons is a big risk, he doesn't have the mentality to be the "guy". Heck we have all questioned Lebron's mentality of being the "guy" and he is unreal.

76ers strategy has been pathetic.

The number #1 pick shouldn't be someone you think needs to "develop" a shot or "start" playing Defense. The only real deal #1 picks generally have scouts convinced they can do most of those things day 1...and when have you all seen the potential #1 seed give up in games or a season like Simmons did last year.
 
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Nubb16

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I hope they keep him and trade Noel. Doesn't matter who comes to Phili because they will still suck. Owner is not interested in being good. They'll probably draft five centers in this draft and not one of them worth a damn.
 

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Just trying to draft talent and throw them together is not a strategy. No one knows how these guys will play together or if they even really complement each other. 76ers will be horrible for a long long time. The NBA is very concerned, they basically implanted their own expert to help them dig out of this hole.

Given the top draft picks they have had, there is NO ONE another team would covet. They are stuck with unproven players. Simmons is a big risk, he doesn't have the mentality to be the "guy". Heck we have all questioned Lebron's mentality of being the "guy" and he is unreal.

76ers strategy has been pathetic.

The number #1 pick shouldn't be someone you think needs to "develop" a shot or "start" playing Defense. The only real deal #1 picks generally have scouts convinced they can do most of those things day 1...and when have you all seen the potential #1 seed give up in games or a season like Simmons did last year.

I agree they're a few years away from relevancy (depending on how they manage their roster) but Who've they taken that wasn't justifiable?

As far as this draft goes, there isn't a sure fire, can't miss franchise level player. Ben Simmons is about as close as it gets in this years class.
 
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BBUK_anon

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they took it very slow with embiid. odds are still against him having a career where he's available for 65+ games year in and year out IMO, but if he does manage to stay healthy, he's damned near as talented as KAT

if embiid can't get/stay healthy, and they're not dumb, they still have simmons and noel at the 4 & 5--two extremely fast big players who can play pick and roll together

just please god get rid of okafor he's such a drain on everything

Heck he's. another AD.
 

Ron Mehico

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Simmons in the obvious #1. LSU was a complete dumpster fire last year and Johnny Jones completely lost control of the team, which has jaded people's views of him, but he's obviously more ready to contribute from day 1 than Ingram.
 

KyFord

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I don't like his character, he's selfish and he can't shoot. He also has a tendency to give up on defense and not give his full effort.

I wouldn't say he is the clear cut #1 pick.

With that being said, he is very athletic and could turn out to be really good. Or he could turn out to be an Anthony Bennett, who knows?
 

Rhavic

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they took it very slow with embiid. odds are still against him having a career where he's available for 65+ games year in and year out IMO, but if he does manage to stay healthy, he's damned near as talented as KAT

I take issue with this considering Embiid hasn't played one NBA game, and KAT just had a historic rookie season and is one of the most polished overall players in the league already. Towns is a dominant mid-range player in the NBA, handles the ball really well for a big (and has the ability to take it coast to coast), is a very good passer, and has shown the ability to dominate the low post as well. Also one of the very best rebounders in the league, is a double-double machine and had a couple of occasions where he came incredible close to getting triple-doubles.
All that said, and Embiid hasn't even scored 1 point in the NBA. So yes, I take issue with that sentiment.

Anyway, I think Ben Simmons will be 10 times the cancer that Okafor is, regardless of talent. Arguably a worse shooter than Okafor too, which is bad.
 
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BBUK_anon

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I take issue with this considering Embiid hasn't played one NBA game, and KAT just had a historic rookie season and is one of the most polished overall players in the league already. Towns is a dominant mid-range player in the NBA, handles the ball really well for a big (and has the ability to take it coast to coast), is a very good passer, and has shown the ability to dominate the low post as well. Also one of the very best rebounders in the league, is a double-double machine and had a couple of occasions where he came incredible close to getting triple-doubles.
All that said, and Embiid hasn't even scored 1 point in the NBA. So yes, I take issue with that sentiment.

Anyway, I think Ben Simmons will be 10 times the cancer that Okafor is, regardless of talent. Arguably a worse shooter than Okafor too, which is bad.

I agree, you stated it different than I did but the same. (Sounds like an old segment of Cheech and Chong's "Up in smoke"...)
 

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It's hard to argue with Simmons, but I'm not going to be all that surprised if a few years down the road the Lakers come out ahead. I see a lot of you mentioned the 76r's trading Okafor, but I'd like to see them trade Noel to a decent team. They have been shopping him. It's hard to believe in the 76r's getting things turned around anytime soon.
 
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Simmons is basically Evan Turner 2.0, except less likeable. Given their roster, Ingram is the much better pick. But neither player would be top 3 in most drafts. Ingram probably wouldn't be top 5 in most.

Alot of teams looking to trade down. Smart. Other than Thon and Skal, there aren't players with very high ceilings in this draft.
 

kentucky_wildcat_#1

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I'm not the biggest Simmons fan of this board, but it's obvious the kid should be drafted with the first pick of the Nba draft. Talent wise, the kid is right at the top of the board. If the kid matures and works hard on his game on the court, he could be a somewhat leBron lite type of player after a few years of playing in the league. Don't get me wrong, i don't think he ever becomes as good as LeBron is today. Not many people will ever get to say that so it's not fair to expect that from Simmons.
 
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KyFord

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uh, incorrect

turner is 6'7 and slow

simmons is 6'10 and faster than f--king westbrook in a sprint

he goes by people. turner didn't. neither does ingram

simmons is a no brainer at #1

Are you serious about him being faster than Westbrook?

Come on man

Did you not watch the games he played in?

Super athlete without a doubt, but has a bad attitude and can't shoot. He also becomes disinterested, especially on defense.

His rebounding numbers come from him camping out under the basket instead of playing defense.
 

GonzoCat90

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Physically, Simmons projects as an elite defender. He absolutely has every tool to give you that kind of defense. His physical gifts, handle, rebounding and vision are all elite, especially for his age and position. If he can do those things, he's a borderline all-star with no jumper at all. If he learns to slash, or even actually add range, he can be great.

Now, that's his ceiling. His floor is a rich man's Royce White. If all your PF does is defend, rebound and start the break with insane speed and excellent vision, you'll still take that. It doesn't make you a franchise guy, but I'm not sure there's one of those in this draft. Someone may end up being one, but Simmons is the only one who really safely projects as that now.