"They Hate Each Other."
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I don't hate anybody, and I harbor active dislike for very few.
K is only really dislikable because he's treated like a saint even though he's about average in terms of how dirty his hands are (there's nothing egregious that he's known to be responsible for, just a couple of peripheral things that it seems unlikely he arranged - like Cal). But I blame ESPN for kissing his ***.
Rick is gross, and he's immersed in a hypersexual, win at all costs culture, and almost every statement he releases ends up being a falsehood, but I don't harbor any active dislike for him - Cal has rendered him a sad little puppy.
Roy - that's a little different. He's the conductor on the UNC fan denial train - if you find some way to convince a bunch of people that getting off on a technicality for decades of fraudulent classes means that you're the victim, you are kind of a garbage person.
Jeff Capel is one of main reasons Duke is doing well with OAD recruit's. Coach Cal has been blasted over the years by the media and other teams fans over Marcus Camby.... but you don't hear much about coach K and Corey Maggette, or Jeff Capel and Tiny Gallon.
Just watch and see how the media and the NCAA slobber over Duke this season and try to make sure they go undefeted..
Just watch and see how the media and the NCAA slobber over Duke this season and try to make sure they go undefeted..
It's an AZ thing. The heat makes us a little thin on the skin. I posted a couple of days ago how " I am an equal opportunity hater of Bron, kobi, and Jordan"
I've never understood the hate for coach k. He gets pissed off and whines to the refs? Ok well every other damn coach in America does as well. He is viewed as shady and only acts nice to the public? Ok well a lot of uk fans thought the same thing about Cal before he got here. The point is if he were here, we would bow and praise him like he was Jesus. He's well accomplished and it comes down to jealousy for fans instead of hatred.
K's a douche but there was plenty said about it for several days. Of course if it was Cal they'd still be writing about it to troll for hits.
Your friend at UNC is blinded by his jealousy. Krzyzewski has generally had UNC's number. Krzyzewski is an elite coach and a respected man in the business. To deny that would be ignorant. But Calipari has a better track record developing bigs and point guards. Those questioning Krzyzewski's class don't have a justification based on his behavior toward us. In 1992, the 1st words out of Krzyzewski's mouth in the post game interview were "The 1st thing that must be said is what a great game by an outstanding Kentucky team". Laettner was an ***, but Krzyzewski was more than gracious. At other times, Krzyzewski has been complimentary toward our teams. He has the competitive fire, of course, but he is far more classy than most coaches. I have always admired Krzyzewski. But Calipari is the hottest coach in the business. There may be some understandable mutual competitiveness and envy, mostly evident in Calipari's comments about Krzyzewski's extracurricular coaching roles, but I'm sure both respect each other.
The guy - Coach K - is Bobby Knight without the perpetual 'roid rage. Make no mistake - he boils, but keeps it under control. He also bullies ala Knight but in a different way. He has mastered the PR angle - something Knight never learned. IMO.
They had to say something... since he was busted with the recording of it. Otherwise, he'd have got away clean, like he usually does.
That's not the only criterion for whether or not someone has class.
- Teaches players to flop on charges and 3 pt shots
- Laettner stomp
- Henderson's elbow to Hansborough's grill
- Allen's serial tripping
- Thomas's 100K jewelry
- Turning into the very thing he complained about with Dean Smith
- Upbraiding an opposing player in handshake line, then lying about it
- Pretending to be straight-laced goody two-shoe and having same foul mouth as most coaches (learned from the best)
Is he a monster? Hell no, and he's far from the worst, but I've had my fill of his personae as choir boy and Mr. Class. Spare me.
I attended a NC State and Duke game at NC State with a friend several years ago. We were seated two rows behind the Duke bench. I have never heard anyone curse like coach K did that day. He is a disciple of Bobby Knight so I guess I was expecting to hear a few curse words. However it was a never ending display of cursing like a sailor. He is displayed by the media as a saint but he is far from it.
LOL! Thanks for the lecture on class. Are you qualified by your achievements in life to pass judgment on Mike Krzyzewski? Krzyzewski is 1 of the most successful coaches in the history of college athletics. He built Duke's basketball program into 1 of the nation's top athletic programs. Few people ever achieve anything like that. On many occasions, I have seen Krzyzewski display unusual class, especially toward our teams. It doesn't bother me that Krzyzewski is competitive and intense. What do you expect? I have never known a successful coach who wasn't. Hold Laettner responsible for his own behavior. Nobody ever said Laettner has class. If you wish to criticism Krzyzewski for managing PR for his program, then you must hold other coaches to the same standard. All good coaches do that.
that's a good point....he sure loves to do that
But it's not K's fault that he's respected.
As far as Roy Williams, he's fighting for his program. I think the program is as dirty as there has ever been but it didn't start with him and he's fighting for his school. I only hope that any UK coach that is ever in Roy's position fights for the program.
Must be nice for K to get accolades for doing absolutely nothing. All given to him. Building a program based on the oversight of his NCAA lords. He can fool you plebs, but not me. What a colossal hack. Like being on 3rd base and the NCAA is waving him in. Silver platter. His protectors helping to create a real life Truman Show.
Wonder why the NCAA chose him to create a fake success.
Wonder why the NCAA chose him to create a fake success.
Lol. It may not have started with Roy, but it sure continued with him.
The appropriate response to decades of cheating would have been to apologize and resign in shame.
Fighting for his school? He's making a mockery of what was once considered one of the finer academic institutions in this country.
UNC carries a permanent black eye, and Roy Williams delivered as many sucker punches as anyone.
Roy Williams isn't "fighting for his school." He's fighting for his own tarnished legacy.
Duke better win all the games and championships they can before Coach K is gone because they're looking to become UCLA post-Wooden and Indiana post-Knight.
So how is any of this K's fault? Is he supposed to tell all his rah rah people to stop respecting him? Live it up while you can.
I want duke to lose every game they play and I want UNC to forfeit every win since 1993 but I can't hate the coaches for being respected.
Do as you wish. IDC. All I did was post my opinion. I never said anyone had to do as I said. Where did you get that?
Pay attention. The part you left out was where I said "I learned my lesson". If you're going to take a swing at me at least bring all the facts.
Does it make you feel better when you tell everyone you hate someone you never met on a message board? Nevermind, I know the answer.
If you are actually serious, I would have to nominate this for most ignorant post of the month. And that's saying something on this board.
If you're gonna hate anyone, Boeheim & Calhoun would be good choices. They are two true JACKASSES.
So, achievement equals class? Got it. Bobby Knight agrees.
What? You said people hate him because he's successful. I said that wasn't true. Then you throw this oddball question at me. Whatever.
I think it's pretty obvious why K's recruiting suddenly started being great again. Don't get me wrong. The man has always been able to recruit. He's a great coach at a elite bludblood. If you can't recruit at those type of schools, you shouldn't be coaching basketball. In you all remember in 2008-2010 most Duke fans were wondering why they couldn't land an elite big man. Then Usa comes calling and coach K takes the job and is a hero after Usa basketball won gold. Just imagine all the hours coach K gets to spend with these kids when they are 14-17 years old. Any fans that says that is not a recruiting edge on every other coach in college basketball is in denial. The man gets to talk to these kids and build relationships when every other coach can't even get acess to them. Coach K will always be able to recruit with the legacy he has build, but here lately the man is on Cal's level with recruiting and that would have not happened if it weren't for Usa basketball. Too bad for Duke fans the man is nearing 70 years old and doesn't have too much time left. I don't want to hear any more bs about one and dones ruining college basketball and all that crap. Duke is doing the same as Kentucky and Cal.
Does one have to have the same or better achievements than someone else to have an opinion on them? I doubt you believe that.
You know it and I know it, people hate duke and coach K because they win. It's no different than all the other programs and their fans that hate UK and Cal. Only Cal isn't thought of as high and mighty, K is.
You're puffing your chest out at me because I gave my insight based on how I see it. God forbid someone has an opinion that differs from yours.
Serious as *** cancer. K is a complete fraud. Built on the backs of the NCAA.
ESPN started in 1979 and K is coach in 1980. No coincidence
Gotcha. As for the hat, I was referring to the Scottsdale Community College's mascot, Artie, the Fighting Artichoke. One of the best mascots out there!
Puffing my chest out? Dude, you got some weird views on normal discourse. Go back and look at each and every one of my posts and tell me there is anything incendiary, abusive or even aggressive. As for your last statement, my second post said everyone should be able to have their own opinion of him. Trying focusing your responses to stuff I actually say instead of words you put in my mouth.
