Trump to be arrested Tuesday
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the ******* backflips some itt are doing is absolutely insane. seriously, yall just have no dignity? or you dont see it?
TGP writes an article claiming hes about to be arrested, then runs an article that says, no wait, thats not happeneing, and you all are just standing in the corner going, "yea, these guys are definitely credible.".
wild
TGP writes an article claiming hes about to be arrested, then runs an article that says, no wait, thats not happeneing, and you all are just standing in the corner going, "yea, these guys are definitely credible.".
wild
Hilarious, the PATRIOT MOAT is building in NY even though no one but Trump says he'll be arrested. In fact, they have more grand jury testimony scheduled for Wednesday. Looks like you MAGAts were lied to AGAIN!
So......you are happy Trump is not going to be arrested?
Paula Jones says hello . 850k from cigar Bill. Oh wait he used the cigar on a different woman. At least Bill had a good excuse it's name is Hillary.
Arrest Trump and then promptly go arrest the Bidens.......let's stop f*cking around, arrest them all.
The un-seriousness on display in this thread...
As a subject for the remarks of the evening, the perpetuation of our political institutions, is selected.
In the great journal of things happening under the sun, we, the American People, find our account running, under date of the nineteenth century of the Christian era.--We find ourselves in the peaceful possession, of the fairest portion of the earth, as regards extent of territory, fertility of soil, and salubrity of climate. We find ourselves under the government of a system of political institutions, conducing more essentially to the ends of civil and religious liberty, than any of which the history of former times tells us. We, when mounting the stage of existence, found ourselves the legal inheritors of these fundamental blessings. We toiled not in the acquirement or establishment of them--they are a legacy bequeathed us, by a once hardy, brave, and patriotic, but now lamented and departed race of ancestors. Their's was the task (and nobly they performed it) to possess themselves, and through themselves, us, of this goodly land; and to uprear upon its hills and its valleys, a political edifice of liberty and equal rights; 'tis ours only, to transmit these, the former, unprofaned by the foot of an invader; the latter, undecayed by the lapse of time and untorn by usurpation, to the latest generation that fate shall permit the world to know. This task of gratitude to our fathers, justice to ourselves, duty to posterity, and love for our species in general, all imperatively require us faithfully to perform.
How then shall we perform it?--At what point shall we expect the approach of danger? By what means shall we fortify against it?-- Shall we expect some transatlantic military giant, to step the Ocean, and crush us at a blow? Never!--All the armies of Europe, Asia and Africa combined, with all the treasure of the earth (our own excepted) in their military chest; with a Buonaparte for a commander, could not by force, take a drink from the Ohio, or make a track on the Blue Ridge, in a trial of a thousand years.
At what point then is the approach of danger to be expected? I answer, if it ever reach us, it must spring up amongst us. It cannot come from abroad. If destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen, we must live through all time, or die by suicide.
I hope I am over wary; but if I am not, there is, even now, something of ill-omen, amongst us. I mean the increasing disregard for law which pervades the country; the growing disposition to substitute the wild and furious passions, in lieu of the sober judgment of Courts; and the worse than savage mobs, for the executive ministers of justice. This disposition is awfully fearful in any community; and that it now exists in ours, though grating to our feelings to admit, it would be a violation of truth, and an insult to our intelligence, to deny. Accounts of outrages committed by mobs, form the every-day news of the times. They have pervaded the country, from New England to Louisiana;--they are neither peculiar to the eternal snows of the former, nor the burning suns of the latter;--they are not the creature of climate-- neither are they confined to the slave-holding, or the non-slave- holding States. Alike, they spring up among the pleasure hunting masters of Southern slaves, and the order loving citizens of the land of steady habits.--Whatever, then, their cause may be, it is common to the whole country.
It would be tedious, as well as useless, to recount the horrors of all of them. Those happening in the State of Mississippi, and at St. Louis, are, perhaps, the most dangerous in example and revolting to humanity. In the Mississippi case, they first commenced by hanging the regular gamblers; a set of men, certainly not following for a livelihood, a very useful, or very honest occupation; but one which, so far from being forbidden by the laws, was actually licensed by an act of the Legislature, passed but a single year before. Next, negroes, suspected of conspiring to raise an insurrection, were caught up and hanged in all parts of the State: then, white men, supposed to be leagued with the negroes; and finally, strangers, from neighboring States, going thither on business, were, in many instances subjected to the same fate. Thus went on this process of hanging, from gamblers to negroes, from negroes to white citizens, and from these to strangers; till, dead men were seen literally dangling from the boughs of trees upon every road side; and in numbers almost sufficient, to rival the native Spanish moss of the country, as a drapery of the forest.
Turn, then, to that horror-striking scene at St. Louis. A single victim was only sacrificed there. His story is very short; and is, perhaps, the most highly tragic, if anything of its length, that has ever been witnessed in real life. A mulatto man, by the name of McIntosh, was seized in the street, dragged to the suburbs of the city, chained to a tree, and actually burned to death; and all within a single hour from the time he had been a freeman, attending to his own business, and at peace with the world.
Such are the effects of mob law; and such as the scenes, becoming more and more frequent in this land so lately famed for love of law and order; and the stories of which, have even now grown too familiar, to attract any thing more, than an idle remark.
-President Abraham Lincoln
As a subject for the remarks of the evening, the perpetuation of our political institutions, is selected.
In the great journal of things happening under the sun, we, the American People, find our account running, under date of the nineteenth century of the Christian era.--We find ourselves in the peaceful possession, of the fairest portion of the earth, as regards extent of territory, fertility of soil, and salubrity of climate. We find ourselves under the government of a system of political institutions, conducing more essentially to the ends of civil and religious liberty, than any of which the history of former times tells us. We, when mounting the stage of existence, found ourselves the legal inheritors of these fundamental blessings. We toiled not in the acquirement or establishment of them--they are a legacy bequeathed us, by a once hardy, brave, and patriotic, but now lamented and departed race of ancestors. Their's was the task (and nobly they performed it) to possess themselves, and through themselves, us, of this goodly land; and to uprear upon its hills and its valleys, a political edifice of liberty and equal rights; 'tis ours only, to transmit these, the former, unprofaned by the foot of an invader; the latter, undecayed by the lapse of time and untorn by usurpation, to the latest generation that fate shall permit the world to know. This task of gratitude to our fathers, justice to ourselves, duty to posterity, and love for our species in general, all imperatively require us faithfully to perform.
How then shall we perform it?--At what point shall we expect the approach of danger? By what means shall we fortify against it?-- Shall we expect some transatlantic military giant, to step the Ocean, and crush us at a blow? Never!--All the armies of Europe, Asia and Africa combined, with all the treasure of the earth (our own excepted) in their military chest; with a Buonaparte for a commander, could not by force, take a drink from the Ohio, or make a track on the Blue Ridge, in a trial of a thousand years.
At what point then is the approach of danger to be expected? I answer, if it ever reach us, it must spring up amongst us. It cannot come from abroad. If destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen, we must live through all time, or die by suicide.
I hope I am over wary; but if I am not, there is, even now, something of ill-omen, amongst us. I mean the increasing disregard for law which pervades the country; the growing disposition to substitute the wild and furious passions, in lieu of the sober judgment of Courts; and the worse than savage mobs, for the executive ministers of justice. This disposition is awfully fearful in any community; and that it now exists in ours, though grating to our feelings to admit, it would be a violation of truth, and an insult to our intelligence, to deny. Accounts of outrages committed by mobs, form the every-day news of the times. They have pervaded the country, from New England to Louisiana;--they are neither peculiar to the eternal snows of the former, nor the burning suns of the latter;--they are not the creature of climate-- neither are they confined to the slave-holding, or the non-slave- holding States. Alike, they spring up among the pleasure hunting masters of Southern slaves, and the order loving citizens of the land of steady habits.--Whatever, then, their cause may be, it is common to the whole country.
It would be tedious, as well as useless, to recount the horrors of all of them. Those happening in the State of Mississippi, and at St. Louis, are, perhaps, the most dangerous in example and revolting to humanity. In the Mississippi case, they first commenced by hanging the regular gamblers; a set of men, certainly not following for a livelihood, a very useful, or very honest occupation; but one which, so far from being forbidden by the laws, was actually licensed by an act of the Legislature, passed but a single year before. Next, negroes, suspected of conspiring to raise an insurrection, were caught up and hanged in all parts of the State: then, white men, supposed to be leagued with the negroes; and finally, strangers, from neighboring States, going thither on business, were, in many instances subjected to the same fate. Thus went on this process of hanging, from gamblers to negroes, from negroes to white citizens, and from these to strangers; till, dead men were seen literally dangling from the boughs of trees upon every road side; and in numbers almost sufficient, to rival the native Spanish moss of the country, as a drapery of the forest.
Turn, then, to that horror-striking scene at St. Louis. A single victim was only sacrificed there. His story is very short; and is, perhaps, the most highly tragic, if anything of its length, that has ever been witnessed in real life. A mulatto man, by the name of McIntosh, was seized in the street, dragged to the suburbs of the city, chained to a tree, and actually burned to death; and all within a single hour from the time he had been a freeman, attending to his own business, and at peace with the world.
Such are the effects of mob law; and such as the scenes, becoming more and more frequent in this land so lately famed for love of law and order; and the stories of which, have even now grown too familiar, to attract any thing more, than an idle remark.
-President Abraham Lincoln
So you disagree with this take? You are still going to die on the hill of the Bidens are not guilty of anything?And your source is?
Have they done something ILLEGAL that we dont know about? And no, we don't trust a word out of Tucker's mouth.
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Tell me what Trump has done illegal that kept him from running for POTUS or that will keep him from running again for POTUS.
edit: and I can see where you wouldn't believe Tucker. He definately goes over and beyond on many occasions!
I doubt he is. Would have been caught by now considering he's been in politics for a hundred years. But what's that got to do with Trump? Oh, if one did something illegal then it's OK for everyone? I'm confused. Not as much as you, though.
Please. This was a bad attempt, granted, but it's used in every other reply. It's old!
Got it!
for the 1000th time...arrest them all that are convicted of a crime!
If you think there is no fire with all the smoke right in from of your eyes, then you keep being you.
If they convict Trump, he had it coming.
So you cannot actually recall a crime committed by Trump that would not allow him to run for POTUS??
How bout you @flotiger?
The issue in this case is did Trump using the money to pay off Daniels to avoid embarrassment or try to influence the election? While both are plausible outcomes, there's no real way to prove beyond any doubt that Trump was trying to influence the election. There are cases that meet some level of precedence with respect to this matter and people have not gone to jail for these kinds of things previously. The attempt at elevation of this charge to a felony is one of political malice and not the pursuit of justice or upholding of the law.
The question no one seems to be asking is why does this matter? Trump is a liar, a thug, a fraud and an extremely toxic personality. He deserves what he gets. I certainly feel that way about him as a person. He represents NOTHING I hold sacred and many of the things I detest. But, he is an American citizen and we do not have a system where our core tenant is "show me the man and I'll find you the crime."
We are embarking on a dangerous journey into some extraordinarily corrupt and authoritarian areas. Investigating people we don't like to try and find something wrong isn't how our system of justice works. It's not how our constitutional republic was designed to operate. If the values enshrined in our founding documents apply to someone like Trump, then we can be confident they will apply to others as well. That's why he is worth defending and it has nothing to do with him as a man. Our system is supposed to be blind and over all these years the things we have tried to do is get to a place where we don't pre-judge people on any basis other than the actions in the case at hand. This certainly falls under that category.
Do you think he deserves to be given another shot at president after what he's done? If there had been a previous work of fiction written about the last six years, it would be too unbelievable to think it could actually happen - but it did. The man is not a patriot, only cares about himself and has divided this country more than it's ever been since the Civil War. He is not a good steward of our democracy and should be sent to Guantanamo to live out his days. But he's also committed plenty of crimes.
He isn't the responsible party for dividing the country. It's so easy to decide to blame someone else for division yet we see on this board things that are said and done which have nothing to do with Trump. We are all responsible for the divisions in our country. It's abundantly clear as you read the messages in this forum. Blaming Trump is an act of cowardice. These divisions predated his presidency and they will remain long after he is dead and gone because of the choices the people in our nation have made.
All that is true and Trump is also slimy individual who should not run for president because he stokes the fires of the divisions I previously mentioned. But please point out someone who hasn't done those things? Clinton, Bush, Obama, Biden, etc. have all done those things. You are right in that he is not a good steward of our Republic but I would argue that it's been more than half my life ago that anyone was. So what makes Trump so different? He has a cultish following and he exists outside all political norms. One of those things is really dangerous and the other could be considered a good thing. In sum, the nation would be better off without him being a public official.
Your biggest issue is your inability to see both sides for what they are. Just read the evidence on the laptop, the bank statements, the witness testimony etc. Are you still suggesting the laptop isn’t real?And your source is?
You just don't see it! You type it and I assume you say it, but it just doesn't register with you!
You think only what they tell you.
Could be??
These dipshits would rather waste all this time on arresting and convicting Trump when we have a crook right now in the WH.
Trump will not win the republican nomination, so why are they scared? If anyone should be scared it should be us, as he could run in a third party.
It really makes no sense!
IF, and I say that with all seriousness, you graduated Clemson. Please do us all a favor and do not hang it where anyone can see it!
Dude,my father took me to all home games as a kid for years and I've been solid orange all my life. My grandfather also played for Clemson. I have a degree, do you?
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The cord you hit rang hollow and I don't believe you finished college. No way that's true unless it was a 2 year from Tri-County tech.
Whatever brother. It's like your politics, you only believe what you want to. I graduated Clemson in '92 with a bachelor's in science. A civil engineer now, and my kids are at Clemson. Been going to games home and away since my parents strolled me around with them.
Just remember what I said about that diploma you supposedly got!
Are you trying to say that people who don't go to college and graduate as you did are somehow less than you or less knowledgeable?
Is there something wrong with people who go to Tri-County Tech?
If someone didn't graduate or perhaps even go to college does their opinion count less?
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