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BigTimeTiger

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Sort of true. Common cold is more frequently a different virus


Trump also with classic early signs of dementia. What a pair we get to choose from.


sort of true. I guess if you don’t speak and don’t cough, don’t sneeze, don’t breathe No mask necessary.


Bless your heart.
Bless your Libby heart
 
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To be fair, lots of outrageous claims were made early on by scientists, politicians, etc. that turned out to be way off. From what I’ve read, Travis has been a lot closer to the mark than most. Without a doubt he’s been wrong about some things, though.

read papers back in April that said the mortality rate was going to be 0.7ish. So a lot of scientists and physicians were closer to reality than Clay Travis, who was adamant it was going to be lower than the flu.
In fact, I went on record here back in late March/early April when I said it was probably going to 0.4-0.5.% I was pretty much spot on during a time when many on here were saying i was way off - meanwhile, clay wasn’t close to getting it right back in March or April.
 
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I do. Enjoy your unemployment government check

I’ll ask my CPA if I received such a surprise. We’d have a make a corrective action, of course. I play by the rules.

I know you’re a young guy who feels pretty good about your situation... and good for you, you should. I like seeing others succeed. You’ll find though, over time as you become truly successful, your mindset will begin to evolve. A bit of advice.. seek out a few who’ve already made it. Their advice will serve you well.
 

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read papers back in April that said the mortality rate was going to be 0.7ish. So a lot of scientists and physicians were closer to reality than Clay Travis, who was adamant it was going to be lower than the flu.
In fact, I went on record here back in late March/early April when I said it was probably going to 0.4-0.5.% I was pretty much spot on during a time when many on here were saying i was way off - meanwhile, clay wasn’t close to getting it right back in March or April.

No doubt. That’s one piece of info Clay was off on. However, I’d argue that he was closer than most scientists who were claiming a 3-4%....that’s what I recall officials saying during the first month of the pandemic. Clay claiming a mortality rate equal to the flu is a good bit closer than those aforementioned predictions.

I’m not a huge fan of Clay Travis or anything, and his opinion on the virus is a bit more extreme than mine, but I do think a lot of his assertions about it are on the money, especially his opinions on how the media has covered the pandemic.
 

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I’ll ask my CPA if I received such a surprise. We’d have a make a corrective action, of course. I play by the rules.

I know you’re a young guy who feels pretty good about your situation... and good for you, you should. I like seeing others succeed. You’ll find though, over time as you become truly successful, your mindset will begin to evolve. A bit of advice.. seek out a few who’ve already made it. Their advice will serve you well.

The idea that anyone would take advice from you is laughable. Accomplish something of significance before trying to give me advice. You’re a nobody.
 
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No doubt. That’s one piece of info Clay was off on. However, I’d argue that he was closer than most scientists who were claiming a 3-4%....that’s what I recall officials saying during the first month of the pandemic. Clay claiming a mortality rate equal to the flu is a good bit closer than those aforementioned predictions.

I’m not a huge fan of Clay Travis or anything, and his opinion on the virus is a bit more extreme than mine, but I do think a lot of his assertions about it are on the money, especially his opinions on how the media has covered the pandemic.

there wasn’t a swarm of respected scientists who were adamant about a 4% mortality. I recall seeing one or two articles on random news sites about this really really early on, but these were tempered almost immediately and consistently by respected scientists. Most I saw from epidemiologists located at large and respected university centers was between 1-2% early, and this was pushed down further as more testing was being done. Still, many still felt early on it would be somewhere around 0.7-0.8%...this number came down around late April/early May.
Clay didn’t back down from his stance regarding more deaths due to flu in spite of abundance of evidence and scientists saying quite the opposite. While some of even the most extreme projections were revised when more results were published, Clay doubled down. Too many people give him a pass for that
 

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there wasn’t a swarm of respected scientists who were adamant about a 4% mortality. I recall seeing one or two articles on random news sites about this really really early on, but these were tempered almost immediately and consistently by respected scientists. Most I saw from epidemiologists located at large and respected university centers was between 1-2% early, and this was pushed down further as more testing was being done. Still, many still felt early on it would be somewhere around 0.7-0.8%...this number came down around late April/early May.
Clay didn’t back down from his stance regarding more deaths due to flu in spite of abundance of evidence and scientists saying quite the opposite. While some of even the most extreme projections were revised when more results were published, Clay doubled down. Too many people give him a pass for that

Yea he’s wrong on the mortality rate, without a doubt. I don’t know that I’ve seen his claim of the flu killing more people, but then again haven’t read all of his coronavirus stuff, simply because I don’t read outkick everyday and he’s written SO MUCH about it. His take is a bit extreme, but I think that’s the partially the “shock jock” in him.
 

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Yea he’s wrong on the mortality rate, without a doubt. I don’t know that I’ve seen his claim of the flu killing more people, but then again haven’t read all of his coronavirus stuff, simply because I don’t read outkick everyday and he’s written SO MUCH about it. His take is a bit extreme, but I think that’s the partially the “shock jock” in him.
We're all Tigers....let's be civil. A lot of people are going to be on unemployment because of our current environment. Not cool to make of fun of them. It's the nature of the beast. Let's try to have rational discussions and present scientific articles.

I actually like Clay Travis. He was an inspiration of reason for me. For instance, the media was promoting rising cases. However, the media didn't present that more tests have been given, and that the % positive was going down...or up. The media didn't report hospitalization percentage and ICU percentage capacity. These are reasonable things to consider. Clay, brought these reasonable things to me. If you read his recent stuff, he admits that % positives are going up, but the positives Covid cases are younger. Deaths have been going down. He's just stating facts. If you look at the latest CDC numbers: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/hcp/planning-scenarios.html

People under 50 have a 0.0005 of Symptomatic Case Fatality Ratio, stratified by age in years. If the flu has a 0.001 fatality ratio, then Covid-19 for people under 50 years old is half the ratio.
From Reason.com
It is plausible that the IFR for COVID-19, as well as the crude CFR, would vary from one part of the country to another, depending on local conditions. Based on the CDC's "best estimates" of the death rate among all Americans who develop COVID-19 symptoms (whether or not they are tested for the virus) and the percentage of infections that are asymptomatic, the nationwide IFR is something like 0.26 percent. via https://reason.com/2020/06/28/cdc-a...-between-covid-19-infections-and-known-cases/

My thoughts and I'm no big dumb dumby. My previous essay: https://www.shakinthesouthland.com/2010/12/20/1886692/the-truth

First off, if they can have premier league soccer in UK, why can't sports start here? The UK has more fatalities per population than we do. We happen to be in an election year, and the media shames people for going to rallies and protesting their constitutional rights, but gives a pass for BLM protests. And then is silent about the riots and anarchy. The media is correct to give a pass to BLM protests. The media is wrong to shame protesters for speaking out about their livelihood and constitutional rights. It's like we are living in the Twilight zone. Everything is divisive. Nothing united us. I'm a libertarian...vote JoJo...a Clemson professor. https://joj2020.com/

1. If we do not have some kind of football season in Clemson this year....a good majority of businesses will go under and the town will be the same for many many years. https://www.wbrc.com/2020/06/23/tus...tball-season-due-covid-could-be-catastrophic/

2. If cancel education due to this virus, we will be F-ed for years. Just the toll on psychological damage on our youth will be damning. https://www.foxnews.com/health/coro...-goal-students-physically-present-school-fall

3. Wear a mask in public places. If you want fans in the stands this is the way. Have more day games. UV light kills this sucker.

I'm tired and sick of typing. Y'all need to read other sources.
www.reason.com
https://www.jpost.com/coronavirus
https://www.timesofisrael.com/under...t-even-vaccine-wont-save-millions-of-elderly/
https://www.cato.org/
https://mises.org/

American media now is so divisive that it is a joke. Liberals have become Marxists. Marxists have become Anarchists. Republicans have be come Nationalists. Nationalists have become anarchists. New Zealand seems like a good option now. We are tearing our nations apart. Stop. And let's try to save this thing.
 

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The idea that anyone would take advice from you is laughable. Accomplish something of significance before trying to give me advice. You’re a nobody.

I can see you have a long road ahead. Best of luck to you.
 

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I haven’t retired either. Too much fun.

Use the advice I offered, and you’ll make it.

I don’t take advice from simpletons. Spend less time on TI, and one day maybe you’ll be as accomplished as me, who is many years your junior.

good luck
 

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I don’t take advice from simpletons. Spend less time on TI, and one day maybe you’ll be as accomplished as me, who is many years your junior.

good luck
Weren’t you complaining about being straddled with all this student loan debt just a few months ago? All the overtime from the Corona outbreak sure must’ve paid handsomely? I thought you said it would take Years to pay that bad boy off and you needed a government handout to make it fair.
 
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Weren’t you complaining about being straddled with all this student loan debt just a few months ago? All the overtime from the Corona outbreak sure must’ve paid handsomely? I thought you said it would take Years to pay that bad boy off and you needed a government handout to make it fair.

What are you talking about?
And fellows and residents don’t get overtime pay, moron.

I have little to no loans. I got a full ride to undergrad, Yale, and Duke for med school. Now go back to fawning over your buddy who sits on his couch all day and thinks he’s doing something of significance
 

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What are you talking about?
And fellows and residents don’t get overtime pay, moron.

I have little to no loans. I got a full ride to undergrad, Yale, and Duke. Now go back to fawning over your buddy who sits on his couch all day and thinks he’s doing something of significance
If you think that’s accomplished I’ll follow @Cocks are Number 1’s advice. You know what they say not all doctors are financial wizards or good businessmen.
 
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If you think that’s accomplished I’ll follow @Cocks are Number 1’s advice. You know what they say not all doctors are financial wizards or good businessmen.

yes, having basically no loans and entering an incredibly lucrative profession at an early age is a poor business decision. And no, those aren’t even 10% of my accomplishments. Bless your heart
 

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I got a full academic scholarship to medical school and still had to take out some loans bc the cost of attendance is so damn high. Then you start 3 years of residency, where you’re making on average $55K/year. (Resident and fellowship salaries are standardized across the nation. Everyone basically gets paid this same salary). This July , I’ll start cardiology specialty training/fellowship, which is another 3 years for an average salary of 65-67 K per year. And then likely two more years of sub specialty training after that , which I’ll then make 70K per year.
But in the meantime, I’ve had to pay out of pocket to go on 15 residency interviews (you pay for your flight , hotel, and food) ; I went on 14 cardiology interviews this past fall - again the programs don’t fly you out or anything. You do it yourself. I took my medicine boards , which was about 1,000 dollars. Cardiology boards are like 2K each (I’ll have to take at lest 3). And then I pay for my move to a new city , and car etc.
And I have very few loans compared to my peers. But how do people expect medicine graduates to pay off their loans quickly? It’s impossible for most people. This has nothing to do with “integrity”.
I don’t know should we expect the government to pay for their loans?

You were whining about how people expect medical students (includes you) to pay their bills/loans. You should have chosen a different career path if you cannot pay the piper. You socialists

yes, having basically no loans and entering an incredibly lucrative profession at an early age is a poor business decision. And no, those aren’t even 10% of my accomplishments. Bless your heart
 
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yes, having basically no loans and entering an incredibly lucrative profession at an early age is a poor business decision. And no, those aren’t even 10% of my accomplishments. Bless your heart

Being a doctor is a good job, but I’m giggling at you calling it “lucrative.” Shows your perspective/youth/inexperience, which isn’t unusual for someone your age. That bubble you’re in creates a blurred view, but I’m sure you think it’s something while only taking care of yourself. Being a doctor doesn’t make you elite, although we see you believe that to be so, lol. I have lots of doctor friends, Duke, Harvard, etc... nice folks with a few years under their belts. They don’t act like you, but they’re older/wiser. I have hope for you... one day you’ll see.

I had respect for you and your opinions in the past, until I realized what a drama queen you enjoy being. Again... youthful inflated view of self worth, combined with a appetite/need for attention. You’ll grow out of it, and most will show you grace.
 
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