Iowa @ PSU

[Dukeslater21]

I wasn't especially impressed with PSU in its win over Illinois. Had the Illini not committed 5 TOs, it would have been a different game. If Iowa takes care of the ball, it should have a chance in Happy Valley, although it would help if McNamara gets it together. I'm not sure playing an injured QB, even one as talented and experienced as Cade is, gives Iowa the best chance to win. Maybe Hill and Labas should be used for a few series as change of pace and to run plays that Cade can't. Or maybe Cade will step up on Saturday night and play the way most of us thought he would. But the injury clearly was still bothering him yesterday.

BTW: For once, KF let his backups play football and even score late. That's what Hayden always did, and it's absolutely the right thing to do. Too bad it took KF more than two decades to figure that out.

 

[HawkTex]

I wasn't especially impressed with PSU in its win over Illinois. Had the Illini not committed 5 TOs, it would have been a different game. If Iowa takes care of the ball, it should have a chance in Happy Valley, although it would help if McNamara gets it together. I'm not sure playing an injured QB, even one as talented and experienced as Cade is, gives Iowa the best chance to win. Maybe Hill and Labas should be used for a few series as change of pace and to run plays that Cade can't. Or maybe Cade will step up on Saturday night and play the way most of us thought he would. But the injury clearly was still bothering him yesterday.

BTW: For once, KF let his backups play football and even score late. That's what Hayden always did, and it's absolutely the right thing to do. Too bad it took KF more than two decades to figure that out.

Doubtful we will be able to run or pass the ball against PSU.

 

[micahparsons]

From a psu fan, probably looking at something like 24-13. This is the best defense we've had in probably 15 years, offense has issues but is still too talented to stop consistently at home.

 

[Dukeslater21]

From a psu fan, probably looking at something like 24-13. This is the best defense we've had in probably 15 years, offense has issues but is still too talented to stop consistently at home.

Sounds reasonable. OTOH, if Iowa doesn't turn the ball over 5 times like Illinois did, it'll be interesting to see what the PSU offense can do against an Iowa D that has a much higher ceiling than what we've seen so far. Should be an interesting contest. Until I saw PSU yesterday, I thought Iowa might be out of its league in Happy Valley. Now, I think the Hawkeyes at least have a chance. We'll see.

 

[micahparsons]

Sounds reasonable. OTOH, if Iowa doesn't turn the ball over 5 times like Illinois did, it'll be interesting to see what the PSU offense can do against an Iowa D that has a much higher ceiling than what we've seen so far. Should be an interesting contest. Until I saw PSU yesterday, I thought Iowa might be out of its league in Happy Valley. Now, I think the Hawkeyes at least have a chance. We'll see.

Yeah psu has some issues, but they've atleast been tested by decent competition.

Iowa has played against some really terrible teams, so tough to determine how they will deal with a giant talent jump in PSU.

 

[Cougar63]

Too bad it took KF more than two decades to figure that out.

No it didn't. Kirk's been playing 2nd/3rd stringers when games are out of hand since he got here. He's been letting them drive the ball as long as they look like they know what they're doing, too.

 

[Hawks16]

Yeah psu has some issues, but they've atleast been tested by decent competition.

Iowa has played against some really terrible teams, so tough to determine how they will deal with a giant talent jump in PSU.

Penn state hasn’t exactly faced murders row. Illinois and West Virginia are borderline bowl teams. Sure they are better then Iowa State, but the Iowa state game is a heated rivalry and a hostel road environment for Iowa.

Having said, Penn State has better players and should win fairly comfortably.

 

[Dukeslater21]

No it didn't. Kirk's been playing 2nd/3rd stringers when games are out of hand since he got here. He's been letting them drive the ball as long as they look like they know what they're doing, too.

I don't think you've been watching the same games I have. On the rare occasions when KF has played the backups, it's been for little more than a couple of minutes, and they have been relegated to running off tackle. They have not been allowed to play real football, and yet KF keeps calling his Iowa program "developmental." Hell, KF seldom even has his second-string QB ready, even though that person is always one play away from being forced onto the field. It's interesting how people see what they wanna see. But that doesn't change the facts. You're entitled to your opinion, but not your own facts.

BTW: "When games are out of hand." LOL KF does everything he can to make sure that almost never happens, which is why backups rarely play and, when they do, almost never get to actually do anything. Yesterday was a one-off deal for KF, but it was what Hayden Fry did ALL the time. Maybe that's what has you confused.

 

[Dukeslater21]

Penn state hasn’t exactly faced murders row. Illinois and West Virginia are borderline bowl teams. Sure they are better then Iowa State, but the Iowa state game is a heated rivalry and a hostel road environment for Iowa.

Having said, Penn State has better players and should win fairly comfortably.

"Borderline bowl teams." You mean Illinois and West Virginia may be around No. 80 in the country, because that's about how many teams go to bowls these days. Thirty or 40 years ago, going to a bowl meant something. Not anymore.

And I've actually watched PSU play, and having done so, I came away far from impressed. I was expecting to see a juggernaut that would blow Iowa out of the water. What I saw was an offense that looked like Iowa the last few years, and a defense that was never tested because Illinois turned it over FIVE freakin' times. And PSU still only won by 17 points.

Maybe Iowa gets destroyed in Happy Valley. But I wouldn't, if you don't mind the language, "bet" on it.

 

[Hawks16]

"Borderline bowl teams." You mean Illinois and West Virginia may be around No. 80 in the country, because that's about how many teams go to bowls these days. Thirty or 40 years ago, going to a bowl meant something. Not anymore.

And I've actually watched PSU play, and having done so, I came away far from impressed. I was expecting to see a juggernaut that would blow Iowa out of the water. What I saw was an offense that looked like Iowa the last few years, and a defense that was never tested because Illinois turned it over FIVE freakin' times. And PSU still only won by 17 points.

Maybe Iowa gets destroyed in Happy Valley. But I wouldn't, if you don't mind the language, "bet" on it.

Agreed. I think Illinois or West Virginia are below average football teams.

 

[TheChosen]

I would feel a lot better if this game was at Kinnick.

 

[Cougar63]

I don't think you've been watching the same games I have. On the rare occasions when KF has played the backups, it's been for little more than a couple of minutes, and they have been relegated to running off tackle. They have not been allowed to play real football, and yet KF keeps calling his Iowa program "developmental." Hell, KF seldom even has his second-string QB ready, even though that person is always one play away from being forced onto the field. It's interesting how people see what they wanna see. But that doesn't change the facts. You're entitled to your opinion, but not your own facts.

BTW: "When games are out of hand." LOL KF does everything he can to make sure that almost never happens, which is why backups rarely play and, when they do, almost never get to actually do anything. Yesterday was a one-off deal for KF, but it was what Hayden Fry did ALL the time. Maybe that's what has you confused.

That's because Kirk hasn't trusted his QBs. There's three games that I know off the top of my head in which Deuce Hogan, Spencer Petras, and Padilla all saw game action and passed.

 

[hawkeyeheritage]

Yeah psu has some issues, but they've atleast been tested by decent competition.

Iowa has played against some really terrible teams, so tough to determine how they will deal with a giant talent jump in PSU.

West Virginia is not much better than Iowa St. Delaware St is FCS. Illinois barely and was extremely lucky with a Hail Mary to beat Toledo. I think you are an overconfident group, certainly shouldn't be because of competition level

 

[micahparsons]

West Virginia is not much better than Iowa St. Delaware St is FCS. Illinois barely and was extremely lucky with a Hail Mary to beat Toledo. I think you are an overconfident group, certainly shouldn't be because of competition level

West Virginia and Illinois are both better than anyone Iowa has played, by a decent amount. That's really not debatable.

Also considering penn state is a 14.5 point favorite, and I picked them to win by 11, not sure how that can be considered overconfident.

 

[Nitwit]

West Virginia is not much better than Iowa St. Delaware St is FCS. Illinois barely and was extremely lucky with a Hail Mary to beat Toledo. I think you are an overconfident group, certainly shouldn't be because of competition level

It was the University of Delaware, not Delaware State.

 

[Cidsports]

Penn state hasn’t exactly faced murders row. Illinois and West Virginia are borderline bowl teams. Sure they are better then Iowa State, but the Iowa state game is a heated rivalry and a hostel road environment for Iowa.

Having said, Penn State has better players and should win fairly comfortably.

Illinois was a bowl team in 2022, not 2021 and they beat PSU in Happy Valley that year.

The Illini finished the season 5–7, 4–5 in Big Ten play to finish in fifth place in the West division in 2021. Now, they open 2021 at 1-2. Mark Rogers from the Voice of CFB is right. Not a very good team.

 

[waltpsuscranton]

I wasn't especially impressed with PSU in its win over Illinois. Had the Illini not committed 5 TOs, it would have been a different game. If Iowa takes care of the ball, it should have a chance in Happy Valley, although it would help if McNamara gets it together. I'm not sure playing an injured QB, even one as talented and experienced as Cade is, gives Iowa the best chance to win. Maybe Hill and Labas should be used for a few series as change of pace and to run plays that Cade can't. Or maybe Cade will step up on Saturday night and play the way most of us thought he would. But the injury clearly was still bothering him yesterday.

BTW: For once, KF let his backups play football and even score late. That's what Hayden always did, and it's absolutely the right thing to do. Too bad it took KF more than two decades to figure that out.

Not impressed with Iowa offense in ANY game

 

[Dukeslater21]

Not impressed with Iowa offense in ANY game

You're not alone, pal.

 

[Miller22]

"Borderline bowl teams." You mean Illinois and West Virginia may be around No. 80 in the country, because that's about how many teams go to bowls these days. Thirty or 40 years ago, going to a bowl meant something. Not anymore.

And I've actually watched PSU play, and having done so, I came away far from impressed. I was expecting to see a juggernaut that would blow Iowa out of the water. What I saw was an offense that looked like Iowa the last few years, and a defense that was never tested because Illinois turned it over FIVE freakin' times. And PSU still only won by 17 points.

Maybe Iowa gets destroyed in Happy Valley. But I wouldn't, if you don't mind the language, "bet" on it.

Everyone seems to judge their upcoming opponent by the last game the opponent played. And yes Penn State's offense versus Illinois wasn't great. But prior they were much better against West Virginia and Delaware yes I know Delaware is a nobody. I thought Florida state was going to kick the living crap out of Boston College by how well they played kicking the crap out of LSU. Florida State struggled and barely beat Boston College who lost the Northern Illinois and barely beat Holy Cross.

 

[CeeTeeHawk1]

I hope it doesn’t get ugly

 

[Miller22]

I was reading the Iowa Swarm Lounge and wish I could post there as a Penn St fan. Can only post here.

A few Iowa fans are making the typical old lazy and classless comments calling Penn St....Ped St.

I could sit here and call Iowa.... The Iowa Klan for all their racist cases they've been accused of and had to pay out money on but I won't because as a Penn St I choose to punch up, not down. I'm sure most Iowa folks are good people and don't make these comments. Just as most Penn St fans and staff are good people and not responsible for what one horrible human being did at Penn St.

The truth is for a long time Penn St fans had a lot of respect for Iowa being a tough old school program that often overachieved. But after the '21 game when Iowa fans mocked and accused Penn St players of fake injuries, and worse Ferentz in the press conference backing it up saying Iowa fans smelled a rat??? I could tell you that respect for Iowa by most Penn St fans is gone.

That '21 game we had injuries to our best DT, our best defensive player safety Jaquan Brisker and our starting QB Clifford. The DT missed the rest of the season but it was a fake injury according to Iowa fans and Ferentz?

What's even more ridiculous is thinking Penn St was faking injuries with their starting QB?? You's all saw how horrible the backup played. So why in the world would Penn St fake an injury having their QB go out missing the rest if the game? If Clifford didn't get injured Iowa had no chance in that game.

 

[rattlesnake jack]

You're not alone, pal.

Yeah.....I agree with you guys. I was hoping for a better year offensively, with McNamara coming in. We just seem to rely on our TE's too much because we can't get the ball to the WR's, or they can't get separation. I mentioned in another post, watching their offense is like watching turtles running downhill. Iowa's 'turtle offense'. But, I still love them and hope they win....go Hawks!!

 

[NittanyPangolin]

I was reading the Iowa Swarm Lounge and wish I could post there as a Penn St fan. Can only post here.

A few Iowa fans are making the typical old lazy and classless comments calling Penn St....Ped St.

I could sit here and call Iowa.... The Iowa Klan for all their racist cases they've been accused of and had to pay out money on but I won't because as a Penn St I choose to punch up, not down. I'm sure most Iowa folks are good people and don't make these comments. Just as most Penn St fans and staff are good people and not responsible for what one horrible human being did at Penn St.

The truth is for a long time Penn St fans had a lot of respect for Iowa being a tough old school program that often overachieved. But after the '21 game when Iowa fans mocked and accused Penn St players of fake injuries, and worse Ferentz in the press conference backing it up saying Iowa fans smelled a rat??? I could tell you that respect for Iowa by most Penn St fans is gone.

That '21 game we had injuries to our best DT, our best defensive player safety Jaquan Brisker and our starting QB Clifford. The DT missed the rest of the season but it was a fake injury according to Iowa fans and Ferentz?

What's even more ridiculous is thinking Penn St was faking injuries with their starting QB?? You's all saw how horrible the backup played. So why in the world would Penn St fake an injury having their QB go out missing the rest if the game? If Clifford didn't get injured Iowa had no chance in that game.

From another Penn Stater - what is your purpose in going to opposing team's message boards and getting upset that they are talking **** on your team on game week? Every team and fan base for the last 12 years has called us Ped State. I agree the 2021 injury debacle was dumb and classless, but I believe it will be settled on the field.

To turn the convo to football: I will drop this - I keep seeing from Iowa fans on this board pointing out the turnovers against Illinois being a game changer, but insinuating or outright saying they were a fluke. They are a feature, not a fluke. We have a very aggressive defense with elite defensive ends that speed up the QB, and we have an elite secondary and linebacker core who can take advantage of that. There is a reason Manny Diaz defenses consistently rank in the top 5 in turnovers. If you want to beat us, it isn't gonna be airing it out, it is gonna be in the run game and slowing the game down and dominating TOP. Something this Iowa team absolutely CAN do. I think it will be a good game.

 

[hexumhawk]

If Cade was healthy, I would like our chances much more. He isn't and am sure it is frustrating for him.

 

[J0nnyHB]

The truth is for a long time Penn St fans had a lot of respect for Iowa being a tough old school program that often overachieved. But after the '21 game when Iowa fans mocked and accused Penn St players of fake injuries, and worse Ferentz in the press conference backing it up saying Iowa fans smelled a rat??? I could tell you that respect for Iowa by most Penn St fans is gone.

That '21 game we had injuries to our best DT, our best defensive player safety Jaquan Brisker and our starting QB Clifford. The DT missed the rest of the season but it was a fake injury according to Iowa fans and Ferentz?

What's even more ridiculous is thinking Penn St was faking injuries with their starting QB?? You's all saw how horrible the backup played. So why in the world would Penn St fake an injury having their QB go out missing the rest if the game? If Clifford didn't get injured Iowa had no chance in that game.

Come on man, absolutely NO ONE was accusing your QB of faking his injury. You guys are making things up now. I documented the 5 plays in question. On 3 out of 5 Iowa just had a big gain ... it looked fishy and I am damn sure if the shoe was on the other foot, PSU fans would be complaining about Iowa stopping momentum. When the crowd is amped up for a big game, the crowd will react without really thinking (a poor excuse granted, but Iowa fans are no different than any other fan base in that regard). So it was unfortunate for the real injured players to hear boos.

After watching it again, only 2 of the injuries out of 5 still looked fishy ... #17 for sure, that was BS what he did, sorry man, he was running after the play on the backside then all of the sudden after the big play he has to fall down and needs assistance, then a few plays later he is back in??? #1 stopped the game after a big gain, got a message from the trainer on the field, jumped up and jogged off the field (looked pretty bad, looked like a tactic to stop play, sorry it did), he was right back in the game after that.

Then you have Franklin's reputation for coaching his team to stop play (Iowa coaches knew about this and if you cry wolf by playing that game, you might not get the benefit of the doubt when there was a legit injury).

I wish Iowa fans didn't boo because you really don't know if there is a real injury or if gamesmanship is being applied, however on a couple of occasions in that '21 game the fans had a legit suspicion. You have to admit that the timing was very very suspicious.

 

[J0nnyHB]

Here is my post about the injuries and booing ...

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Ok, I finally got back to the re-watch and took some notes.

There were 5 occasions where Iowa was on offense and there was a PSU injury and there was booing on all of those. On 3 of the 5 plays, Iowa had big gains so the momentum was stopped because of the injury (so it looked fishy in any case even if the injuries were legit, it just was so coincidental I guess). IMO, only 1 of the injuries looked fake to me and it was the last one, the rest of them looked pretty legit although in the moment the crowd isn't going to be able to tell TBH. I do think MrButler has a valid argument that the crowd was overreacting and it was embarrassing TBH (after the re-watch).

1) On Iowa's 1st drive, #97 goes down on a first down play which gained close to 0 yards. There was some booing (not real loud, but it was audible on TV), why? Not sure. This was a legit injury.

2) 1st Q 3:13 mark. #1 goes down after a 20 yard run by Goodson. Trainer massages #1's shoulders, he jumps up and walks off the field (so fans probably questioning that). It looked like a legit injury, but could have been fake, I don't know.

3) 2nd Q 7:52 mark. #91 goes down after short run by Goodson. This looked like his arm was hurt.

4) 2nd Q 5:36 mark. #0 goes down after tunnel screen to #10 goes for about 15 yards. #73 (Ince) from Iowa just crushes #0 for PSU. This is a legit injury, however he does get up and walk off on his own. This is where the fan is shown mocking the injuries.

5) 3rd Q 5:28 mark. #17 goes down after 13 yard run by Goodson. This was is the one I feel might be fake. #17 is seen running toward Goodson during the run, then he must fall down and wait for assistance. Maybe this is where Woods goes off on the sideline? This one looked real fishy. #17 did stay off the field for about 3 plays then was back in.

That's it, someone can check me out but that is what I saw.
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[Miller22]

Here is my post about the injuries and booing ...

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Ok, I finally got back to the re-watch and took some notes.

There were 5 occasions where Iowa was on offense and there was a PSU injury and there was booing on all of those. On 3 of the 5 plays, Iowa had big gains so the momentum was stopped because of the injury (so it looked fishy in any case even if the injuries were legit, it just was so coincidental I guess). IMO, only 1 of the injuries looked fake to me and it was the last one, the rest of them looked pretty legit although in the moment the crowd isn't going to be able to tell TBH. I do think MrButler has a valid argument that the crowd was overreacting and it was embarrassing TBH (after the re-watch).

1) On Iowa's 1st drive, #97 goes down on a first down play which gained close to 0 yards. There was some booing (not real loud, but it was audible on TV), why? Not sure. This was a legit injury.

2) 1st Q 3:13 mark. #1 goes down after a 20 yard run by Goodson. Trainer massages #1's shoulders, he jumps up and walks off the field (so fans probably questioning that). It looked like a legit injury, but could have been fake, I don't know.

3) 2nd Q 7:52 mark. #91 goes down after short run by Goodson. This looked like his arm was hurt.

4) 2nd Q 5:36 mark. #0 goes down after tunnel screen to #10 goes for about 15 yards. #73 (Ince) from Iowa just crushes #0 for PSU. This is a legit injury, however he does get up and walk off on his own. This is where the fan is shown mocking the injuries.

5) 3rd Q 5:28 mark. #17 goes down after 13 yard run by Goodson. This was is the one I feel might be fake. #17 is seen running toward Goodson during the run, then he must fall down and wait for assistance. Maybe this is where Woods goes off on the sideline? This one looked real fishy. #17 did stay off the field for about 3 plays then was back in.

That's it, someone can check me out but that is what I saw.
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I don't have the game recorded anywhere so best I can do is go by extended highlight from youtube.

#1 was safety Jaquan Brisker who was PSUs best player on defense that year and now starts at safety for the Bears. He injured his arm and shoulder game one vs Wisconsin. He's played through the pain through the season and kept reaggravating it. You can type in 2021 Jaquan Brisker injury and there is a Rivals report on it. I can't link from the device I'm typing on.

From the highlights I have, check the snap at 6:02 in the 3rd qtr #17 hurt his knee or leg. It was minor but not fake. This is in reference to your #17 at 5:28 play. At the end of the play he was limping and reached for his knee/leg.

The highlights I have don't show the other plays.

I can see in a heated close game where fans might think there were some fake injuries but unfortunately none of them were fake. I don't think this would have become a bigger issue if Ferentz didn't say Iowa fans smelled a rat in his press conference after the game. That's what put it over the top because now the media hops all over it and becomes magnified more. At this point it is what is.

One thing Iowa has in it's favor tomorrow night is it's supposed to pour. Heavy rain favors Iowa obviously. I still don't see them winning but you never know.

 

[J0nnyHB]

I can see in a heated close game where fans might think there were some fake injuries but unfortunately none of them were fake. I don't think this would have become a bigger issue if Ferentz didn't say Iowa fans smelled a rat in his press conference after the game. That's what put it over the top because now the media hops all over it and becomes magnified more. At this point it is what is.

Franklins own reputation likely triggered that comment by KF as well as what they (Iowa coaching staff) saw at field level. It looked bad and was part of a pattern that the coaching circles around the country know about ... if you cry wolf, you might not get the benefit of the doubt unfortunately.

I was well aware of Brisker's shoulder troubles as I watched both the Auburn and Wisconsin games, however how are you going to expect all 70K fans in Kinnick to know that? He looked like he had a minor (at best) injury in which he stayed on the ground after a big momentum play for Iowa, got a message from a trainer, literally hopped up and jogged off to the sideline only to get back into the game a play or two later.

#17 looked even worse, and that one I believe is where Woods (Iowa coach) made his jester on the sideline. Granted, he probably would take it back now, but in the heat of the moment, people do things out of character. KF makes flippant comments every once in a while, and I think maybe the "smell a rat" one might be one he would take back in hind site.

About the game in '23. Iowa has lots of guys out unfortunately and Cade is still pretty immobile so it will be uphill battle. I would like Iowa's chances much better if everyone was available, however, with that said, Iowa has a punchers chance because of the field position game which Iowa should have a decent advantage on. #3 DeJean is a playmaker and if he gets a few chances he could take one or two to the house (pick 6 or fumble recovery or punt return). Also, #21 Wetjen is looking good on kickoff return. It is critical for Iowa to get one or two defensive or special teams scores to have a chance to pull the upset IMO.

 

[waltpsuscranton]

Come on man, absolutely NO ONE was accusing your QB of faking his injury. You guys are making things up now. I documented the 5 plays in question. On 3 out of 5 Iowa just had a big gain ... it looked fishy and I am damn sure if the shoe was on the other foot, PSU fans would be complaining about Iowa stopping momentum. When the crowd is amped up for a big game, the crowd will react without really thinking (a poor excuse granted, but Iowa fans are no different than any other fan base in that regard). So it was unfortunate for the real injured players to hear boos.

After watching it again, only 2 of the injuries out of 5 still looked fishy ... #17 for sure, that was BS what he did, sorry man, he was running after the play on the backside then all of the sudden after the big play he has to fall down and needs assistance, then a few plays later he is back in??? #1 stopped the game after a big gain, got a message from the trainer on the field, jumped up and jogged off the field (looked pretty bad, looked like a tactic to stop play, sorry it did), he was right back in the game after that.

Then you have Franklin's reputation for coaching his team to stop play (Iowa coaches knew about this and if you cry wolf by playing that game, you might not get the benefit of the doubt when there was a legit injury).

I wish Iowa fans didn't boo because you really don't know if there is a real injury or if gamesmanship is being applied, however on a couple of occasions in that '21 game the fans had a legit suspicion. You have to admit that the timing was very very suspicious.

It is not so much the fans; it was that assistant coach flopping on the sideline and Ferentz’s comments after the game. While Franklin won’t say it publicly, it will be mentioned in the locker room.

 

[Cougar63]

It is not so much the fans; it was that assistant coach flopping on the sideline and Ferentz’s comments after the game. While Franklin won’t say it publicly, it will be mentioned in the locker room.

I think your assistant coaches have done worse.

 

[waltpsuscranton]

I think your assistant coaches have done worse.

Um, NOT an assistant coach at that time.

 

[Cougar63]

Um, NOT an assistant coach at that time.

Oh, sorry. That makes it so much better.

 

[Cougar63]

Um, NOT an assistant coach at that time.

it's also wrong. First victim was in '71, per PSU legal team and payouts.

 

[waltpsuscranton]

it's also wrong. First victim was in '71, per PSU legal team and payouts.

Was not even a coach in 1971.

 

[Cougar63]

Was not even a coach in 1971.

Incorrect again.

 

[Miller22]

Franklins own reputation likely triggered that comment by KF as well as what they (Iowa coaching staff) saw at field level. It looked bad and was part of a pattern that the coaching circles around the country know about ... if you cry wolf, you might not get the benefit of the doubt unfortunately.

I was well aware of Brisker's shoulder troubles as I watched both the Auburn and Wisconsin games, however how are you going to expect all 70K fans in Kinnick to know that? He looked like he had a minor (at best) injury in which he stayed on the ground after a big momentum play for Iowa, got a message from a trainer, literally hopped up and jogged off to the sideline only to get back into the game a play or two later.

#17 looked even worse, and that one I believe is where Woods (Iowa coach) made his jester on the sideline. Granted, he probably would take it back now, but in the heat of the moment, people do things out of character. KF makes flippant comments every once in a while, and I think maybe the "smell a rat" one might be one he would take back in hind site.

About the game in '23. Iowa has lots of guys out unfortunately and Cade is still pretty immobile so it will be uphill battle. I would like Iowa's chances much better if everyone was available, however, with that said, Iowa has a punchers chance because of the field position game which Iowa should have a decent advantage on. #3 DeJean is a playmaker and if he gets a few chances he could take one or two to the house (pick 6 or fumble recovery or punt return). Also, #21 Wetjen is looking good on kickoff return. It is critical for Iowa to get one or two defensive or special teams scores to have a chance to pull the upset IMO.

I think your assistant coaches have done worse.

Listen, I didn't come on here to give you guys crap but now I will.

The point is...Iowa fans, Iowa's ast. coach and Ferentz were WRONG with mocking fake injuries and fake injuries accusations. And now you's start making excuses, throwing shade, and going back to 1971 for Gods sakes, when you's were in the wrong.

31-0.....Have a great night!!!!

 

[Cougar63]

Listen, I didn't come on here to give you guys crap but now I will.

The point is...Iowa fans, Iowa's ast. coach and Ferentz were WRONG with mocking fake injuries and fake injuries accusations. And now you's start making excuses, throwing shade, and going back to 1971 for Gods sakes, when you's were in the wrong.

31-0.....Have a great night!!!!

okay

 

[J0nnyHB]

Listen, I didn't come on here to give you guys crap but now I will.

The point is...Iowa fans, Iowa's ast. coach and Ferentz were WRONG with mocking fake injuries and fake injuries accusations. And now you's start making excuses, throwing shade, and going back to 1971 for Gods sakes, when you's were in the wrong.

31-0.....Have a great night!!!!

Whatever dude. You probably will never get as many breaks in the first half of a game ever again so enjoy the good luck there, might have wanted that luck vs someone else though lol. Your team played well and certainly made a statement. Iowa will regroup and be OK in the west. PSU will probably end up 9-3 or so …. Take care.

 

[RD24]

Whatever dude. You probably will never get as many breaks in the first half of a game ever again so enjoy the good luck there, might have wanted that luck vs someone else though lol. Your team played well and certainly made a statement. Iowa will regroup and be OK in the west. PSU will probably end up 9-3 or so …. Take care.

The 9-3 comment feels butthurt

 

[J0nnyHB]

The 9-3 comment feels butthurt

You can say whatever you like, I’m not sold on PSU just yet. Good game tonight though.