Being that RU most likely does not have the cash to both payoff Schiano and then increase NIL money to attract an accomplished head coach, do fire GS and roll the dice with a long shot?
Not sure where you get your information, but I'd find a new source.Being that RU most likely does not have the cash to both payoff Schiano and then increase NIL money to attract an accomplished head coach, do fire GS and roll the dice with a long shot?
STOPBeing that RU most likely does not have the cash to both payoff Schiano and then increase NIL money to attract an accomplished head coach, do fire GS and roll the dice with a long shot?
I would love to have been a fly on the wall during the conversations between Schiano and his agent and Hobbs at the end of the 6-6 2023 season, which ended with a blowout loss to MD, amongst other blowouts during the season, as to why he deserved an extension. Talk about a panic buy. And don’t tell me about the Pinstripe Bowl win over Miami. 2023 Miami was not 2026 Miami and half the Miami team didn’t play in the bowl.Hobbs will go down as the worst AD in the history of P4. The scandal is one thing but his early extensions of both Schiano and Pike completely handcuffed the next AD.
The Greg extension was not Hobbs" decision. He was a puppet at the end and doing whatever he could to save his own butt.Hobbs will go down as the worst AD in the history of P4. The scandal is one thing but his early extensions of both Schiano and Pike completely handcuffed the next AD.
He was always just an amateur.Hobbs will go down as the worst AD in the history of P4. The scandal is one thing but his early extensions of both Schiano and Pike completely handcuffed the next AD.
Fred Gruninger says hold my beer. Hobbs was awful. But Fred was monumental in his consistent failures.Hobbs will go down as the worst AD in the history of P4. The scandal is one thing but his early extensions of both Schiano and Pike completely handcuffed the next AD.
This has nothing to do with today and the current department. No need to wallow in the pastThe RU Athletic Department has been an incompetent clown show since Fred Gruninger.
Hobbs will go down as the worst AD in the history of P4. The scandal is one thing but his early extensions of both Schiano and Pike completely handcuffed the next AD.
The RU Athletic Department has been an incompetent clown show since Fred Gruninger.
She would be making a big mistake not firing GS, she is smarter than that.Zinn would be making a mistake to fire Greg. She is smarter than that.
That’s not even getting into the “take my guy off your list” to the national media about Ash being on the hot seatHobbs will go down as the worst AD in the history of P4. The scandal is one thing but his early extensions of both Schiano and Pike completely handcuffed the next AD.
Don’t forget his unwillingness to embrace NIL for any of the sports and immediately putting us behind in the arms race.Hobbs will go down as the worst AD in the history of P4. The scandal is one thing but his early extensions of both Schiano and Pike completely handcuffed the next AD.
"You and Umme sure been spending a lot of time together..."I would love to have been a fly on the wall during the conversations between Schiano and his agent and Hobbs at the end of the 6-6 2023 season, which ended with a blowout loss to MD, amongst other blowouts during the season, as to why he deserved an extension. Talk about a panic buy. And don’t tell me about the Pinstripe Bowl win over Miami. 2023 Miami was not 2026 Miami and half the Miami team didn’t play in the bowl.
Don’t forget his unwillingness to embrace NIL for any of the sports and immediately putting us behind in the arms race.
Shocker. Meaningless babbling from a irrelevant idiot.Zinn would be making a mistake to fire Greg. She is smarter than that.
Sorry, your dad is getting the axe soon.Zinn would be making a mistake to fire Greg. She is smarter than that.
The only thing that got us into the BIG was sitting in the NY media market . . .Gruninger was the worst AD in the northeast and his replacement turned the football program around, which got us into the Big Ten.
That’s simple: Greg walked in with pics of Hobbs and Salim Beasley and dropped them on Hobbs desk. I think your giving me an extension.I would love to have been a fly on the wall during the conversations between Schiano and his agent and Hobbs at the end of the 6-6 2023 season, which ended with a blowout loss to MD, amongst other blowouts during the season, as to why he deserved an extension. Talk about a panic buy. And don’t tell me about the Pinstripe Bowl win over Miami. 2023 Miami was not 2026 Miami and half the Miami team didn’t play in the bowl.
Did you hear this at Subway?Being that RU most likely does not have the cash to both payoff Schiano and then increase NIL money to attract an accomplished head coach, do fire GS and roll the dice with a long shot?
In the post game Youtube review Richie said he heard from an insider that they have the money. Mike Broadbent said they admin wants to go smooth on the firing because GS has been around so long and done good things. They dont want to break his sword and rip his stripes off on his way out of then fort.
Or Greg could do the right thing and negotiate an exit where he does not get the full value of his buyout. He has enough money to retire comfortably. So his staying is all about ego and greed, and it is a sad way to end his tenure at Rutgers.Schiano deserves to be fired. The last two years a total cluster flub.
But despite what the mods say, I can understand the money argument. He would be owed about 18 million, not including the other coaches, all that paid over time. Schools like Rutgers typically don't fire a coach until the remaining salary is 10-12 million. See eg, Maryland, NC State. Rutgers historically has had low donations to athletics. They don't have deep ticket sales. So who are these mysterious donors who will come up with the money, to pay the guy not to work?
That unjustified extension from Hobbs really F' Rutgers over.
If we use Maryland as a template, their guy had two bad 4-8 years before this disaster of year where he was fired, where Rutgers went 7-6, 5-7 and then the ludicrous year. So if RU follows the same course, he gets one more year. Even with Ash we had to suffer through four 1-3 win seasons before he was fired.
I don't know. I'll believe when I see it. But if history any guide, it's really a coins toss if he gets let go, even though he absolutely deserves it.
BK thing changes the analysis meaningfully. If you can get BK at less than his personal FMV, then maybe you can afford to let Schiano go with three years left on his contract. Still though, believe it when I see it. BK only comes here if there's meaningful commitment to NIL. We'll see; but what disaster of a year.
Or Greg could do the right thing and negotiate an exit where he does not get the full value of his buyout. He has enough money to retire comfortably. So his staying is all about ego and greed, and it is a sad way to end his tenure at Rutgers.
And I respectfully disagree on the money issue. His staff is bloated beyond necessity. Cutting the bloated staff saves money. Season ticket sales will plummet if he is back next year. Donations will stagnate and decrease. A spark provided by a coach like Bob Chesney would boost donations and ticket sales. Chesney has a base salary of $5.4M per year with performamce incentives.
Rutgers can find the money to cut the albatross loose, and they will see like UCLA and Indiana, it was well worth the cost.
You make some good points. We'll see. I guess it depends on who they can get. If the articles have any accuracy, they're saying the pool of candidates rather thin this year after the free for all last year. Get the right guy though, and increased ticket sales can make up for a lot. Really shocked on how much Rutgers spends on their FB program, and some of that the employee benefits that other states don't have. Cleary the ROI for Rutgers just not there.Or Greg could do the right thing and negotiate an exit where he does not get the full value of his buyout. He has enough money to retire comfortably. So his staying is all about ego and greed, and it is a sad way to end his tenure at Rutgers.
And I respectfully disagree on the money issue. His staff is bloated beyond necessity. Cutting the bloated staff saves money. Season ticket sales will plummet if he is back next year. Donations will stagnate and decrease. A spark provided by a coach like Bob Chesney would boost donations and ticket sales. Chesney has a base salary of $5.4M per year with performamce incentives.
Rutgers can find the money to cut the albatross loose, and they will see like UCLA and Indiana, it was well worth the cost.
I keep asking this question and no one can give me a reasonable answer, his contract already calls for him to receive 76% of the remaining value if he's fired. Why is he then going to take another cut on top of what was already negotiated?Or Greg could do the right thing and negotiate an exit where he does not get the full value of his buyout. He has enough money to retire comfortably. So his staying is all about ego and greed, and it is a sad way to end his tenure at Rutgers.
And I respectfully disagree on the money issue. His staff is bloated beyond necessity. Cutting the bloated staff saves money. Season ticket sales will plummet if he is back next year. Donations will stagnate and decrease. A spark provided by a coach like Bob Chesney would boost donations and ticket sales. Chesney has a base salary of $5.4M per year with performamce incentives.
Rutgers can find the money to cut the albatross loose, and they will see like UCLA and Indiana, it was well worth the cost.
It does happen -ish, but it's a rare exception not the rule. If you fire someone just assume you have to pay what you owe and move on.I keep asking this question and no one can give me a reasonable answer, his contract already calls for him to receive 76% of the remaining value if he's fired. Why is he then going to take another cut on top of what was already negotiated?
Frankly, he owes the university nothing when you consider how much he had to endure with Rutgers doing everything on the cheap during 1.0. I also don't see him retiring anytime soon. He will continue working in one capacity or another.
Agree with the rest.
He gets a percentage if fired because he is no longer working.I keep asking this question and no one can give me a reasonable answer, his contract already calls for him to receive 76% of the remaining value if he's fired. Why is he then going to take another cut on top of what was already negotiated?
Frankly, he owes the university nothing when you consider how much he had to endure with Rutgers doing everything on the cheap during 1.0. I also don't see him retiring anytime soon. He will continue working in one capacity or another.
Agree with the rest.
Hobbs shmobbs.Hobbs hiring back in the day says it all…zero experience as an AD…zero experience at a large university…political hire…scandal to top it all off. NJ tax payer waste on full display.
The Schiano hire turned football around which we can argue led to the Big Ten invite but I’m not sure that Mulcahy was a good AD. The basketball program was chaos under his tenure and if somebody hadn’t hand delivered Douby to Waters, it’s likely we wouldn’t have even had the ‘good’ 2005 season. I don’t think that getting lucky with Schiano means that Mulcahy was a good AD.Gruninger was the worst AD in the northeast and his replacement turned the football program around, which got us into the Big Ten.
SLURP SLURP SLURPZinn would be making a mistake to fire Greg. She is smarter than that.
Best post in the thread.He gets a percentage if fired because he is no longer working.
Not sure about your second paragraph. Sounds like he did Rutgers a huge favor blessing Rutgers with his taking the job. Many other jobs are a lot harder and pay a lot less. Boo hoo that he had to work hard. He has never learned to work smart like Cignetti does. He thinks what worked 20 years ago will work today.
Good man, good to the players, but the modern game has passed him by.
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