Greatest Villain in PSU Wrestling History

Who is the greatest villain in PSU wrestling history?

  • MyMar

    Votes: 4 3.8%
  • Kyle Dake (though we love him now)

    Votes: 24 23.1%
  • DT (though we loved him then)

    Votes: 11 10.6%
  • Gillman (though we love him now)

    Votes: 3 2.9%
  • ADS

    Votes: 5 4.8%
  • Zahid

    Votes: 12 11.5%
  • Brands (pick one)

    Votes: 24 23.1%
  • Mike Evans

    Votes: 7 6.7%
  • Van Brill

    Votes: 3 2.9%
  • Other (please specify in comments)

    Votes: 11 10.6%

  • Total voters
    104

Stick Kitty

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I don't there was ever any animus towards IMar, he was just a giant that had to be toppled; ironically, Spencer Lee wound up being sort of irrelevant; and Suriano wound up just being a passing distraction - even though his departure left 125 in the lurch for quite a few years, it didn't hurt the team's success very much, if at all.
Spencer leading Iowa to a National Title and likely 2 if not for covid was irrelevant to PSU? Please that kid has taken more fire from this board than any other wrestler. Ever since he spurned PSU a good majority have been obsessed with tearing down him and his family. I am not even sure there is a close 2nd.
 
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Nitlion1986

All-American
Apr 13, 2024
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Spencer leading Iowa to a National Title and likely 2 if not for covid was irrelevant to PSU? Please that kid has taken more fire from this board than any other wrestler. Ever since he spurned PSU a good majority have been obsessed with tearing down him and his family. I am not even sure there is a close 2nd.
Why is a title always followed by a make believe "likely 2 (with appropriate rationalization)"? He helped Iowa win 1 team title and he was probably the best Iowa wrestler in the Brands era, with McDonough and Metcalf pretty close.
 

Matter7172

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Oct 30, 2021
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Spencer leading Iowa to a National Title and likely 2 if not for covid was irrelevant to PSU? Please that kid has taken more fire from this board than any other wrestler. Ever since he spurned PSU a good majority have been obsessed with tearing down him and his family. I am not even sure there is a close 2nd.
The only "fire" he took that I recall was from the wild hyperbole about him from the Iowa crowd and Flo and the incessant coverage of him from Flo. Oh, and the glasses thing, which is some funny sh*t even today. It was one title, just a little blip in the timeline. Penn State has been just fine without him, thank you.
 

Tryingtodoitright

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Oct 12, 2021
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Bonomo? He owes me money
...Ricky's brother Rocky is in the Ministry - reminds me of a joke.
Three kids are debating who's dad makes the most money.
First kid says, 'My dad's a lawyer and he makes $200 an hour.'
Second kids says, 'That's nothing, my dad's a doctor and he makes $200 just for seeing a patient.'
Third kid says. 'Oh yeah, my dad's a pastor and he speaks once a week for 45 minutes and it takes six guys to bring him all the money'.
 

CTStall

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Oct 24, 2020
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nic suriano is up there
I think Suriano created a void for a few years at 125.
Coaches have ability to shuffle most weights except 125 and Hwt. When you land a stud at those weights it's hard to bring in talent that is specific to those weights. Maybe 197 gets a little thin in the roster also.
Suriano was before NIL money. However Rutgers landed Suriano's father. 😏
 
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Conewago

Sophomore
Jul 10, 2017
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What was the name of the ref who kept calling stalling on Mayo against Alger? Villainous
 

Joejitsu

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Jun 10, 2025
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I think Suriano created a void for a few years at 125.
Coaches have ability to shuffle most weights except 125 and Hwt. When you land a stud at those weights it's hard to bring in talent that is specific to those weights. Maybe 197 gets a little thin in the roster also.
Suriano was before NIL money. However Rutgers landed Suriano's father. 😏
Lol… sure did leave a void
I think Cael learned from it
He has luke 2 more years and Sidun and company on their way
 
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Norm Palovcsik

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Nov 25, 2022
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Clyde Frantz would say Schalles. Frantz had beaten Schalles in HS and was 18-0 his senior year. He and Schalles shook hands and Clyde told Schalles "this shouldn't take long". Schalles pinned Clyde in the first period and Wade being Wade told him, "nope, it didn't."
Great story but factually incorrect.

Wade did pin Clyde in the finals of the 1971 Eastern Regional finals held at Princeton, the first-ever regional qualifier for the NCAA Championships. However, it was not a rematch from a high school bout. Frantz NEVER wrestled Schalles in high school since they were in two different districts (Hughesville - District 4 and Hollidaysburg-District 6) and several graduation years apart. Frantz did, however, defeat a future teammate and two-time NCAA champion Andy Matter in the 1967 PIAA state finals, 8-1.

I didn't mean to submarine your "villain" story but I couldn't let this one pass with correction.
 

LDandy

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Nov 14, 2017
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Imagine if someone told you in 2016 that in ten years Nittany Lion Legend David Taylor would be viewed as a bitter program rival and the trio of Kyle Snyder, Thomas Gilman, and Kyle Dake would be considered revered program leaders. You would think that person had gotten into Shane Sparks private supply.

All kidding aside it shows me two things. 1) Don’t be too quick to judge people. I didn’t think I could ever root for Dake or Gilman, but here we are. 2)Marvel at the gravity that surrounds Cael Sanderson. He created an absolute Death Star at the NLWC out of pure will and tireless work. Olympic/World medalists from the USA and abroad move to Central Pennsylvania to be a part of this culture of gratitude and self improvement. If it wasn’t true you would never believe it was possible.
 
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