Burroughs asked about coaching at Iowa

[LIV4GOD]

We are all just surprised you didn’t put Jordan Williams on staff.

I am just hopeful that someday we have both a head coach and a fan base who isn’t obsessed with filling the coaching staff and wrestling club with ex-Iowa wrestlers.

I agree. It's asinine to just fill positions with ex-Iowa wrestlers.

Is Cael from PSU? Is DT from Okie State? Was Gable from UofI?

 

[el dub]

I agree. It's asinine to just fill positions with ex-Iowa wrestlers.

Is Cael from PSU? Is DT from Okie State? Was Gable from UofI?

But…. We like our guys.

 

[PUR158]

That's not true at all, every single guy had success on the world stage before transferring to NLWC. They all sold out. It's part of the game, can't hate guys for doing what's best for themselves and their family. But call a spade a spade. IF NLWC didn't have the large funding they do, Snyder and Dake wouldn't be there. You think okie st club just got 100 times better because DT went there 2 years ago??? No, it was because donors started passing out buckets full of cash to get the top guys to come on over. They will do the same thing NLWC did in time, It's easier to buy talent than create it.

That is an interesting theory. Another theory could be, PSU was the best collegiate program in wrestling for 10 years, before Snyder and Dake sold out. "Huh, they must be doing something right, maybe it would make sense into looking into training there?"
OK St paid a lot to get Taylor, but wrestlers are drawn to him, his style, the star pupil of the most successful program the last 15 years "Huh, it would make sense into looking to wrestle there".
Every kid is different, but these might appeal more to top recruits than the current Iowa style. Reel them in with the potential and trajectory of the program, close with the money. How many big timers are biting on Iowa currently?

 

[sdvike]

Raney's 100% took the large amount of cash; they weren't even considering okie until 2 weeks before they committed. That just doesn't randomly happen. Now one of them will sit on the bench for how many years, hope it was worth it. When Bo left, everyone knew Melvin would follow. Of course that hurt, hopefully Joey and Freddy can make up for that. With Bo in Iowa, there would more than likely be no Joey & Freddy. Missing out on Zapeda hurt as well. But here we're, on to the next class.

Was definitely worth it to DT and Okie St to keep Raneys off Iowas lineup.

 

[Slim45]

That is an interesting theory. Another theory could be, PSU was the best collegiate program in wrestling for 10 years, before Snyder and Dake sold out. "Huh, they must be doing something right, maybe it would make sense into looking into training there?"
OK St paid a lot to get Taylor, but wrestlers are drawn to him, his style, the star pupil of the most successful program the last 15 years "Huh, it would make sense into looking to wrestle there".
Every kid is different, but these might appeal more to top recruits than the current Iowa style. Reel them in with the potential and trajectory of the program, close with the money. How many big timers are biting on Iowa currently?

Guessing you have those backwards

 

[PUR158]

Guessing you have those backwards

Haha, so for example, if Chattanooga or Campbell offered more NIL than PSU or OK State....a top recruit would be more inclined to go to Chattanooga or Cambell correct? All about the money right? I would argue a program, development and results are what get you a seat at the table with the elite.

Hope you had a stable and productive day today!

 

[namenoonechose]

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[Slim45]

Haha, so for example, if Chattanooga or Campbell offered more NIL than PSU or OK State....a top recruit would be more inclined to go to Chattanooga or Cambell correct? All about the money right? I would argue a program, development and results are what get you a seat at the table with the elite.

Hope you had a stable and productive day today!

Lol where did I say it was ALL about the $? I said you had it backwards. Reel them in with the $ and close with the program.

 

[huntinghawk]

Not thumbing my nose but it will take a million for sure. Hes gotta move his family. In NJ he doesn't so he could obviously take a little less . I would be shocked if he's coaching outside of NJ for under 1 million. I have been wrong before and will be wrong again we all have opinions.

Cost of living Iowa versus New Jersey what add up. But if these bums can't live large on $700,000 or a million dollars boohoo. And yes they are bums unless they win a national they are worth that money.

 

[Wrestleknownothing]

Cost of living Iowa versus New Jersey what add up. But if these bums can't live large on $700,000 or a million dollars boohoo. And yes they are bums unless they win a national they are worth that money.

It doesn't work that way at the pinnacle. Not in sports or business. No CEO says they will take less because of relative home prices. These guys are insanely competitive. If you think the money isn't also a way of keeping score who wins then you are kidding yourself. Sure there are such things as home team discounts, but it may be that Burroughs views what he earns in NJ as him offering a home team discount and he will require a premium to move away.

 

[Nashville_Hawk]

The mail? What is this, 1987? Who the heck pays any attention to what they get in the mail?

At the end of the day, I think we probably agree on overall fundraising efforts. And I’m positive there’s contingent of unmotivated fans with $$$. I just chuckled that this is a thing for someone.

Mail is still a thing for us older folks.

 

[Praguehawk]

Brands makes about $750k. If JB got $1.25 million I would not be shocked. I do think there could be enough to cover that through added fund raising. The additional commitment needed to RTC would be interesting and challenging. Have a deep appreciation for the Brands and also for those that support the program so this is not intended as a slight towards anybody. I believe that Iowa could get back on top with changes. Not sure how many guys have the charisma, chops, horsepower, etc that is necessary. I do think JB is in that category. If Spencer was interested he may as well.

 

[Misalorales]

Not thumbing my nose but it will take a million for sure. Hes gotta move his family. In NJ he doesn't so he could obviously take a little less . I would be shocked if he's coaching outside of NJ for under 1 million. I have been wrong before and will be wrong again we all have opinions.

I'd require a lot more money to live in New Jersey versus Iowa, but I'm not Burroughs who likes New Jersey. Hell, I went out of my way to live in Iowa while stationed at Offutt so I could get a resident hunting license in Iowa since they're fairly pricey otherwise. Just need Jordan Burroughs to become white tail obsessed. Being a fan of dirt track racing wouldn't hurt either lol.

 

[VakAttack]

Was definitely worth it to DT and Okie St to keep Raneys off Iowas lineup.

I don't think Taylor was thinking about Iowa. Hes entirely focused on taking out PSU.

 

[UNIHawk]

I don't think Taylor was thinking about Iowa. Hes entirely focused on taking out PSU.

Iowa had Bo when that went down; Bo, Raney’s, Melvin Miller would have made Iowa a player.

 

[VonEhwegen]

Was definitely worth it to DT and Okie St to keep Raneys off Iowas lineup.

100% agree with you, was simply pointing out what went down. They're doing same blueprint as PSU, Buy blue chippers have them sit on bench and give great depth and improves quality of room. It's just expensive, but if you have it, spend it.

 

[inspiteofourselves]

I don't think Taylor was thinking about Iowa. Hes entirely focused on taking out PSU.

If we have the Raneys at 141 & 149 this year and Block up at 157 we compete with Okie st. The Raneys are both top 5 guys out the gate with finalist upside. I think they are that good.

 

[vhsalum]

Did some digging this morning....

Yeah. Rutgers has some serious cash money. Whenever Goodale decides to stop sucking and hand over the job - they're going to have the money to entice JB AND fund an RTC.

 

[Corby2]

Did some digging this morning....

Yeah. Rutgers has some serious cash money. Whenever Goodale decides to stop sucking and hand over the job - they're going to have the money to entice JB AND fund an RTC.

I tried saying that . Goodale contract is up this year and he has the years in the NJ system to retire and he's coming up on 55. Will he retire or keep coaching time will tell .

 

[vhsalum]

I tried saying that . Goodale contract is up this year and he has the years in the NJ system to retire and he's coming up on 55. Will he retire or keep coaching time will tell .

Iowa can't let this happen. JB needs to be the next Hawk coach.

 

[Stick Kitty]

Iowa can't let this happen. JB needs to be the next Hawk coach.

Say this went down, it absolutely needs done prior to that 30 day portal window opens form April 1 - 30th

I wouldn't underestimate the reach JB has. Kids we probably don't even think could be in play at this time and probably wouldn't be otherwise.

 

[ChicagoHawk2020]

I tried saying that . Goodale contract is up this year and he has the years in the NJ system to retire and he's coming up on 55. Will he retire or keep coaching time will tell .

If Beth gives a crap about wrestling this won’t happen

 

[sdvike]

I don't think Taylor was thinking about Iowa. Hes entirely focused on taking out PSU.

No smart coach is entirely focused on one opponent but then you did say Taylor so maybe.

 

[VakAttack]

Btw Iowa should 100% pursue this.