Even with a fully healthy K1, we still won't beat good SEC teams

[Deltaduckhunter]

Check out the Missouri score. I think they could be considered a “good” SEC team.

 

[patdog]

Missouri has held Baugh, the second coming of Earl Cambell, to 12 yards on 9 carries. Our line is better than we give them credit for. We didn't have any runners for them to block for today. Plenty of times Kamario had open field in front of him, but a body that wasn't working.

Baugh racked up a lot of yards vs 2 cupcakes & the 2 worst rushing defenses in the sec. Plus he got injured I think. But yeah Missouri is a good team. We were just so 1 dimensional with KT barely able to move & Fluff out. If they’re both healthy, today game is a different story. We might still lose but it would have been much closer.

 

[The Cooterpoot]

Not being able to run against Bama's 5-man box told the entire story.

Lubby can be "addicted to speed" but he better get "addicted to winning in the trenches".

You're a retarded midget Que ear, not that there's anything wrong with that

 

[Anon1727472510]

His accuracy has GOT to improve. We've seen instances of that this year and it didn't hurt us in those games but it damn sure did today.

He came into the game completing 70% of his attempts. His injury was ultimately why he was so off today.

 

[THE Bruce Dickinson]

We don’t have the lines to play with good teams.

Our fanbase might be the worst in America.

We have already beaten 2 good teams, and won at a very tough road environment.

 

[jethreauxdawg]

Our fanbase might be the worst in America.

We have already beaten 2 good teams, and won at a very tough road environment.

We could b!tch about going undefeated. We won’t, but we could.

 

[Indndawg]

Not being able to run against Bama's 5-man box told the entire story.

Lubby can be "addicted to speed" but he better get "addicted to winning in the trenches".

Agree. Big fast OL/DL

 

[OG Goat Holder]

Ya'll have been complaining about OL at MSU your whole lives.

He is Leach light. They believe they can scheme away talent deficiencies, and you can’t in this conference.

We don't really have a choice.

We have never had the talent on the line to compete with Bama or the others haves. It’s not just a Lebby thing.

Correct, but.....

A guy that sucked for us is a starting OL at bama, one that bullied us today. Loadholt should have been fired last year

......we could certainly help ourselves more if Loadholt wasn't such an idiot. Running off James and Work was ridiculous.

 

[OG Goat Holder]

Not being able to run against Bama's 5-man box told the entire story.

Lubby can be "addicted to speed" but he better get "addicted to winning in the trenches".

Agree. Big fast OL/DL

Sounds great and all........and very easy to say......but harder to execute.

We'd be better off going the developmental and S&C route, rather than trying to compete with the blue bloods for the transfers.

 

[DawgNsuds]

 

[aTotal360]

Sounds great and all........and very easy to say......but harder to execute.

We'd be better off going the developmental and S&C route, rather than trying to compete with the blue bloods for the transfers.

Don't care how it happens. I mean, it has happened in the past.

 

[OG Goat Holder]

Don't care how it happens. I mean, it has happened in the past.

Has it? I just asked AI how many times, dating back to 1990, that we've beaten a team that ended the season in the top 12 (roughly trying to gauge against what a playoff team would have been). I got this:

Season Date Mississippi State result Opponent’s final AP rank Opponent record
1992 Oct. 1, 1992 Mississippi State 30, Florida 6 No. 10 9–4
1996 Nov. 16, 1996 Mississippi State 17, Alabama 16 No. 11 10–3
1997 Nov. 1, 1997 Mississippi State 20, Auburn 0 No. 11 10–3
2000 Sept. 30, 2000 Mississippi State 47, Florida 35 No. 10 10–3

 

[tcdog70]

we can't beat Bama-neither can anybody else.. **** we just beat Mizzo and Minn. both are good--maybe not great. we need Fluff and K1 healthy

 

[mcdawg22]

Not being able to run against Bama's 5-man box told the entire story.

Lubby can be "addicted to speed" but he better get "addicted to winning in the trenches".

Man. Some of ya’ll give me whiplash with how quickly and violently you go from optimism to pessimism.

 

[johnson86-1]

Check out the Missouri score. I think they could be considered a “good” SEC team.

We don’t have the lines to play with good teams.

By the definition apparently being used, we only have two good teams on our schedule, and I would agree we probably aren't good enough on the lines to beat them. 7 wins will be disappointing but ok if we are competitive in all the games. 8 wins would be solid. We'd be basically taking care of business against Oklahoma, vandy, Auburn and then getting one out of LSU and Ole Miss. I'm expecting 7 because I think injuries and lack of depth are going to do us in. I just hope they don't cost us any more than that.

 

[ckDOG]

Missouri:

 

[jethreauxdawg]

By the definition apparently being used, we only have two good teams on our schedule, and I would agree we probably aren't good enough on the lines to beat them. 7 wins will be disappointing but ok if we are competitive in all the games. 8 wins would be solid. We'd be basically taking care of business against Oklahoma, vandy, Auburn and then getting one out of LSU and Ole Miss. I'm expecting 7 because I think injuries and lack of depth are going to do us in. I just hope they don't cost us any more than that.

Sorry, “good” is vague. I meant the top 2-4 teams in our conference. You make a good point. We beat a good MO team but our OL had a very rough day.

 

[FlotownDawg]

By the definition apparently being used, we only have two good teams on our schedule, and I would agree we probably aren't good enough on the lines to beat them. 7 wins will be disappointing but ok if we are competitive in all the games. 8 wins would be solid. We'd be basically taking care of business against Oklahoma, vandy, Auburn and then getting one out of LSU and Ole Miss. I'm expecting 7 because I think injuries and lack of depth are going to do us in. I just hope they don't cost us any more than that.

After the majority of the people on this board predicted we would have four or fewer wins this season, now seven wins will be disappointing. Some of y'all love to be miserable.

 

[THE Bruce Dickinson]

We could b!tch about going undefeated. We won’t, but we could.

I've been saying it for years.

All a coach has to do to be successful is win every game and win it by an acceptable amount for the fans. Easy

 

[patdog]

Sorry, “good” is vague. I meant the top 2-4 teams in our conference. You make a good point. We beat a good MO team but our OL had a very rough day.

We've never going to beat the top 2-4 teams in our conference with any regularity. We never have and we never will. That's an impossible standard to measure any Mississippi State team by.

 

[OG Goat Holder]

We've never going to beat the top 2-4 teams in our conference with any regularity. We never have and we never will. That's an impossible standard to measure any Mississippi State team by.

Then what are we doing here? I mean I can go with the "any regularity" part, but if we aren't gunning for a playoff run every 5 years or so, I don't see the point of even playing

 

[THE Bruce Dickinson]

He is Leach light.

Yeah I hated winning 9 games a season too

 

[patdog]

Then what are we doing here? I mean I can go with the "any regularity" part, but if we aren't gunning for a playoff run every 5 years or so, I don't see the point of even playing

We should just drop football then. We have had 3 teams in the last 60 years that finished in the top 15 nationally. And suddenly we're supposed to be a playoff team every 5 years?

 

[johnson86-1]

After the majority of the people on this board predicted we would have four or fewer wins this season, now seven wins will be disappointing. Some of y'all love to be miserable.

To be clear, disappointing from where we are now. If we only win 7, it will probably be because of injuries. I will be disappointed that we didn't stay healthier because we are good enough we should win 8. But I will not be unhappy with 7 wins. 7 wins shows we can win with Lebby and will be enough to convince people it's not a waste to keep giving to NIL. 7 wins should be good enough that we stop having to overpay because it will be clear we can win big the next couple of years with KT if we have some good players to go with him.

 

[OG Goat Holder]

To be clear, disappointing from where we are now. If we only win 7, it will probably be because of injuries. I will be disappointed that we didn't stay healthier because we are good enough we should win 8. But I will not be unhappy with 7 wins. 7 wins shows we can win with Lebby and will be enough to convince people it's not a waste to keep giving to NIL. 7 wins should be good enough that we stop having to overpay because it will be clear we can win big the next couple of years with KT if we have some good players to go with him.

I think we need 8-9, but there's a sliding scale, depending on how good we look. We really don't need to take any more perceived assskickings, even if it was closer than the score....the public don't care