Every school has those woke wackjobs. Just win and they will go back into their holes. They just can’t accept no one wants to see them do math.
Firing Greg makes zero financial sense.
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You might want to check on stadium size before you start thinking about doubling ticket sales. Rutgers stadium is nowhere near as big as other Big Ten stadiums.
No one’s saying we can win the big10 except for the gruftrrBut we should occasionally beat a second tier team and the fraud hasn’t ever. Not Iowa, not Nebraska, not Wisconsin. Instead he beats an all-time-terrible Purdue team on a fluke play in the last moment and is so emotional crying tears of exuberance you’d think he just learned his entire family survived a plane crash.
We have a terrible coach who keeps his job only because the university doesn’t even aspire to football mediocrity.
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Seriously.
All the next guy, whoever it is, has to do is win one extra game and get to 8-4.
- best record yet in the B1G
- over .500 in conference play, also a first
- probably a better bowl game/location/date/opponent
All things that are marketable and can be used to sell a progress message for the Program.
It also shows it wasn’t one guy who could do it here.
The seating capacity of Oregon and Rutgers stadiums are close to the same - low 50,000s. Oregon does 3x the ticket sales. Why? Oregon football is the only game in town, the team has had a winning record 19 out of 20 seasons, and Oregon jams in thousands of standing-room-only ticket buyers.
Indiana did 40% higher ticket sales than Rutgers with a similar size stadium and that was before Cignetti.
I’d agree with that considering how little was given before.
When you think about it, all of the other sports with the exception of WVolleyball, have had some sort of success without the required support.
Will be nice to see how a better funded overall Athletic program shows results in the Olympic sports.
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It’s like that across the board at Rutgers. We’ve gotten more funding but we are last in the conference in NIL/scholarships in lacrosse. It wouldn’t take much to make a huge difference. Fortunately Keli views lacrosse as a sport we can win big in and she’s not wrong.
The program competes and beats programs with far more resources. Getting even close will make a massive difference. I’m sure other sports have that same mindset.
As usual, You conveniently overlook that Iowa, Wisconsin, and Nebraska bring in a ton more money than Rutgers does, and this funds better players and better facilities. The revenue and donation advantage has accrued over generations.
- Iowas stadium capacity is 69,250
- Nebraskas stadium capacity is 85,458
- Wisconsin’s stadium capacity is 76,057
- Rutgers Stadium capacity is 52,454, though we can squeeze in 54K on a good day, which is rare these days
You can't live your life in fear of the bad things that might happen. Especially when bad things are already happening in your current situation. Fire this man...
Nails it. Failing coaches get fired. They all have self-serving excuses until the end, but only here is the coach’s failure tolerated for so long.
It’s big time football. Act like it. Fire him yesterday. It’s beyond ridiculous to defend him and his endless excuse list and “bright future” bs.
His 6+ year conference winning percentage is pathetic and cause for firing on its own…and then also UMass and BC in top of that . JFC it can’t be any more obvious that 2.0 is a hot garbage failure whose forced retirement shouldn’t be delayed another second.
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Yeah this is where I am. I'd be wary of making a change if GS were still putting up competitive/bowl seasons, but to paraphrase the man himself, the arrow's pointing down.
A Schiano must go article I can agree with
>Where are the wealthy donors going to come from for Rutgers? Who knows, but it is clear that Schiano did not bring in a coaching staff capable of doing the job right, despite his belief. And he did not build a team in the offseason capable of competing in the Big Ten — and probably not in other smaller conferences either.
Step one for Rutgers, a new head coach needs to be hired next season.<
https://www.onthebanks.com/rutgers-...stadium-in-rout-what-does-it-mean-for-rutgers
>Where are the wealthy donors going to come from for Rutgers? Who knows, but it is clear that Schiano did not bring in a coaching staff capable of doing the job right, despite his belief. And he did not build a team in the offseason capable of competing in the Big Ten — and probably not in other smaller conferences either.
Step one for Rutgers, a new head coach needs to be hired next season.<
https://www.onthebanks.com/rutgers-...stadium-in-rout-what-does-it-mean-for-rutgers
Below are donation figures for B1G athletic departments, not football specifically, because schools allocate donation dollars to sports or non-sport-specific differently.
Rutgers has not made much progress with 2.0. The gap between Rutgers and the conference median is running $30 million per year. These numbers pre-date Keli.
How does Rutgers eliminate this gap? I don't have ideas. Maybe Rutgers gets to UCLA and Maryland levels but that won't be enough to be a game changer for Rutgers athletics.
It’s already absurd that it’s Monday afternoon and Schiano is still here.
In year seven under Greg Schiano, Rutgers is losing games by 30+ and is 1-4 with teams like UMass and Boston College on the schedule.
but it is clear that Schiano did not bring in a coaching staff capable of doing the job right, despite his belief. And he did not build a team in the offseason capable of competing in the Big Ten — and probably not in other smaller conferences either
During most of the last 30 years, beating BC would be a crowning moment for a season. Now it is looked at like a bad loss. Cuse beat us like a drum for 30 years as well. Bottom line, we have advanced in the hierarchy of college football simply by GS getting us invited to the B1G. Has his time passed? Kind of looks like it. But I enjoy his players throwing a TD pass in the NFL while another goes over 100 yards. I remember the days when there was 1 RU player in the NFL, period.
The NY Media market got us invited into the BIG, nothing else.
And without the Louisville game they never would have gotten the NY Media market.
It had nothing to do with that game. Adding us to the Big 10 network gave them NYC carriage fees on cable, whether or not anyone was watching.
We have the media market because that’s where Rutgers lives. The only P4 conference team sitting in it.
Anyone actually thinking our fans will pony up more cash if Schiano gets canned is totally delusional. Look at what just happened with hoops. we literally had Harper and Ace, two top-five lottery picks on the floor together, and people still wouldn't open their wallets to buy a decent supporting cast. We missed the damn tournament because the NIL pot was bone dry.
Zinn has to be smarter than that. We’re Rutgers, not LSU. This fanbase is either cheap, broke, or stuck in 2006 thinking passion pays the bills. She didn't hire Greg, so it’s not her mess, but if she fires him without having the buyout and NIL checks already cleared in the bank, that’s on her.
Zinn has to be smarter than that. We’re Rutgers, not LSU. This fanbase is either cheap, broke, or stuck in 2006 thinking passion pays the bills. She didn't hire Greg, so it’s not her mess, but if she fires him without having the buyout and NIL checks already cleared in the bank, that’s on her.
Indiana, UCLA and Virginia Tech all suffered from low NIL support, and were able to completely change the trajectory by firing their coaches. We need to do the same.
Our fanbase obviously needs to donate more but the NIL mechanics are driven by almost exclusively the athletic department itself. We had no NIL then because the AD (Hobbs) didn’t know what he was doing in that space. So he did nothing.
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That’s not how it works. It’s not a bank account. That budget covers specific things: salaries (professors, other union jobs), contracts, equipment, etc. And a big chunk of it is state funding from taxes.
So sure, the university can take the $$ from other buckets but the negative impact would be significant, and PR wise it would be catastrophic. Athletics racked up more than half a billion in the red over the last decade and hemorrhaging money exponentially. It’s not sustainable.
Firing him needs to come from new, private funds, not current budget.
Tate is the university president, remember. Football is important but is not his #1 priority.
The aforementioned changed the trajectory because donors stepped up. We would need $20M minimum to change the trajectory. Can we do it?
Penn State spent $32M total, and their class and season is a disaster. Too many needs, too little money. We are likely to replicate same, if people don’t step up.
You need to have a viable, actionable plan for success, if you make a change. If you don’t have the money, you can’t make the change. Pretty simple.
Penn State is paying for two coaches and their season is still a disaster. And Matt Campbell has a 10 year contract, so they’re stuck.
LSU spent ~$50M on NIL this year. We don’t even have half.
What is the viable, actionable plan for success, if no change is made?
Pray for donors is the same for both scenarios.
What's the worse that happens if a change is made and the "pray for donors doesn't happen"?
We have a disaster season and lose to a MAC and low level ACC team?
Still waiting for the defense of keeping Schiano that includes winning games.
Get a General Manager that can improve portal outcomes. You’d hope we can land more quality players who could augment the players that are developing this year. This is probably the most likely route to success next year.
if a change is made, it looks like the Academic side is going to have to pay for it, because the AD sure doesn’t have the funds, and no matter how much game people talk here, they aren’t stepping up. So the professors won’t be able to get a raise because we’ll be paying Schiano’s buyout.
The worst outcome would be to get a new coach who still loses to MAC and low level teams ACC teams. See Chris Ash.
if Schiano were to be wacked, it would be open season on the roster, which would be picked dry of all good players. And we’d be starting from ground zero, with inadequate NIL support. And a new coach that would need to learn how to effectively recruit Rutgers, something most haven’t considered. A situation that has inadequate NIL, inadequate facilities, and an unappealing campus. Chris Ash was here four years and he still didn’t figure it out.
The #53 recruiting classes aren’t good enough. We need the #99 recruiting classes of yesteryear. Just looks like a
show waiting to happen.
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State only funds 20% of RU’s budget. This buyout is Pennie’s on the dollar to the taxpayers since it’s paid out over 3 years.
$18M over 4 years is significant unless you’re going to cover it. That is contractually obligated, unless they negotiate another arrangement.
Should the professors forgo their wage increases? Because that’s the budget it’s going to be paid from, the academic side.
Stop gaslighting Al, you know what’s been discussed on the premium side. So you are trying to take advantage of those that don’t have access to the information by spinning what you want them to hear.
The premium side discusses speculation not facts.
It’s not the Bible you want to believe it is. It’s simply a viewpoint. I’m allowed to speculate too.
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