Great win but qb has to improve

[Bigtyrone]

Off to a fantastic start this season but.....qb play must get better. He is missing reads and not seeing guys that are open. Missing throws at times. Has a weird lack of pocket presence much of the time.

Right now the staff is scheming almost every completion. He has to improve if we're going to have a great season. Cant leave this many yards on the table and keep winning tough games.

Good news is, with the recruiting pitch we can put out there, this is probably the least talented qb stein will have in his time here.

I can’t tell if you’re trolling or just an idiot.

 

[*Fox2Monk*]

28/41 272 yards passing, 3 TDs and zero interceptions, I’ll take that!

You can’t ask for a better game than that. Plus about 35 yards got stolen from him.

 

[bigblueinsanity (the real)]

Yea, he's the first rushed/flushed newbie QB that's ever made such a HUGE mistake. LOL.

We won but that was an incredibly poor decision that cost us a chance to win in regulation.

 

[3 Putts]

Getting better every game, starting to show that he can feel the pressure and scramble which really helps our game. Made a couple of big plays with his feet last night, we didn’t see that in our first four games and adds another dimension to our offense. Smart kid, protects the ball and doesn’t force it. He throws a nice ball and is accurate, first time I’ve felt confident about stretching the field in a long time. He can get better, everyone can, but if you told me before the season he’d have 1170 yards, 11/1 TD/int ratio, and a 68% completion rate in his first five games I would have been ecstatic.

 

[FLBBNFAN]

You can’t ask for a better game than that. Plus about 35 yards got stolen from him.

No doubt , that reversal on Darbys catch was complete BS.

 

[carolinacat]

I can’t tell if you’re trolling or just an idiot.

Embrace the probability of both.

 

[Blue Jesus]

I thought Minchey played a great game. We struggled to run early in the game and the staff basically switched to an air attack which unlocked our offense. And unsurprisingly the running game showed some life after the defense started playing to defend the pass.

 

[bpsteve1972]

So easy to watch slow motion and "nit pick". Focus on the LSU game

 

[CatBearPig]

Minchey is a game manager but a very good one. That’s a very weird take.

 

[BigBluefoot]

My only problem with Minchey is that sometimes he stands in the pocket too long. He lacks lateral speed, and that's not his fault. It is what it is. He did however make a couple of runs for good yardage straight up the middle last night when the opportunity presented itself. He's a smart player who makes the correct decision most of the time, which makes up for a lot of other deficiencies. Kentucky in the SEC almost always needs a dual threat QB who can roll out of the pocket to buy time. All that being said he's head and tails above our last few QBs.

 

[K_TIME]

Let's look at the the facts

1. 68% completion. 230 yards a game. 11 TD vs. 1 Int....and I think one fumble lost on the season thru 5 games.
- Looks alot like Oregon QBs under Stein....Dante Moore 71% completion 30 TD vs. 10 Int
Dillion Gabrial 72% completion 30 TD vs. 6 Int
Bo Nix was unreal....77% completion 45 TD vs. 6 Int
But we have to remember....those were Big10 and mostly PAC 10...not exactly facing SEC defenses and Oregon has the talent advantage 9 of 12 games a year or more.

2. The former UK QB play.....was simply not in the same league as what we are getting with Stein QB.
- Boley 65% completion 15 TD 12 Int...210 yards a game at UK last year (and Boley's 2026 at ASU is inflated by 6 TD vs. Morgan State....so Stein made the right decision to not pay Boley and get Minchey)
- Vandagriff 57% 10 TD 8 Int
- Leary 56% 25 TD vs. 12 Int
- We had ton of fumbles and bad sacks taken

3. Minchey has been really good in games we needed him....so he's not stat padding vs. scrubs.
- 277 vs. USC on road
- 252 vs. Texas AM on road
- 146 vs. Bama as a poor game

I think he's been solid and runs the offense well in big spots. Throws a catchable ball....does not throw out of bounds on deep balls (that drives me nuts). Gets us into right play/protections. I'd like for him to be a bit better running with the ball....but that isn't his build. I don't' have a problem with the QB play to be honest.

 

[Haggin_Hall_1983]

Off to a fantastic start this season but.....qb play must get better. He is missing reads and not seeing guys that are open. Missing throws at times. Has a weird lack of pocket presence much of the time.

Right now the staff is scheming almost every completion. He has to improve if we're going to have a great season. Cant leave this many yards on the table and keep winning tough games.

Good news is, with the recruiting pitch we can put out there, this is probably the least talented qb stein will have in his time here.

Needs to be able to hurt teams with his running to be next level.

 

[bigblueinsanity (the real)]

Needs to be able to hurt teams with his running to be next level.

Agree. Saw improvement there this last game. Finally stopped escaping laterally (causing sacks and holds) and finally started stepping up and got a few crucial firsts with his legs.

Overall I'm very pleased given how green he is. He was really only rattled once and that was vs bama who we now know are a truly elite d. He's just missing some opportunities that will eventually get us because of the insane level of competition.

 

[bigblueinsanity (the real)]

Getting better every game, starting to show that he can feel the pressure and scramble which really helps our game. Made a couple of big plays with his feet last night, we didn’t see that in our first four games and adds another dimension to our offense. Smart kid, protects the ball and doesn’t force it. He throws a nice ball and is accurate, first time I’ve felt confident about stretching the field in a long time. He can get better, everyone can, but if you told me before the season he’d have 1170 yards, 11/1 TD/int ratio, and a 68% completion rate in his first five games I would have been ecstatic.

Agree with all that. I am pleased overall. We're already seeing the pocket improvement that was an issue.

I believe he will start seeing some of these missed open receivers and we will start seeing even more explosive plays.

 

[entropy13]

Off to a fantastic start this season but.....qb play must get better. He is missing reads and not seeing guys that are open. Missing throws at times. Has a weird lack of pocket presence much of the time.

Right now the staff is scheming almost every completion. He has to improve if we're going to have a great season. Cant leave this many yards on the table and keep winning tough games.

Good news is, with the recruiting pitch we can put out there, this is probably the least talented qb stein will have in his time here.

You're trying way too hard to sound like an educated contrarian, and this is a terrible take.

No QB is perfect.

 

[ThePrinceIsKing]

28/41 272 yards passing, 3 TDs and zero interceptions, I’ll take that!

Shoulda been like 330 yards but the sec refs protecting Beamer’s job had other plans

 

[Damage_inc]

Like I always say, Kentucky has some
Of the dumbest football fans in the world. I’m sure OP knows plenty about basketball. But he’s out of his depth.

 

[3 Putts]

Agree with all that. I am pleased overall. We're already seeing the pocket improvement that was an issue.

I believe he will start seeing some of these missed open receivers and we will start seeing even more explosive plays.

Yeah man, wasn’t a slam directed towardyou at all. I think the game’s slowing down for him and the bama game helped. Sloan’s still not helping him on third by getting behind the chains and putting him in a bad position as we’re constantly getting blitzed, that’s tough on a first year starter trying make those quick reads imo.

 

[HRPopeNstuff]

Weird take. Best QB we've had at UK since first year Levis in 2021.

 

[ScWildcat3]

Some people don’t need access to a computer.

 

[Beatle Bum]

He could easily have more INTs. There have been a few that should have been. But, that is one reason those guys aren’t WRs.

KM truly seems to live in the one play, this play only mentality. I don’t see him getting in the dirt over things already past that cannot be changed. He also does not seem to get into that let’s get all our points back on this one drive. He seems patient and in the moment. That is a great attribute. You can give lip service to it all day. But he seems to live it.

 

[PooPooPeePeePoo]

Out of all things to complain about QB and offense are definitely not them. Minchey is a stud.

 

[bigblueinsanity (the real)]

You're trying way too hard to sound like an educated contrarian, and this is a terrible take.

No QB is perfect.

Im not trying to do anything. Minchey is playing well but if we are going to have a truly special season he needs to get better on his post snap read and recognition. He is leaving some explosives that we really need to take this team to the next level.

 

[BC_Wader]

I thought Minchey played his best game to date. His pocket awareness was much better later in the game. He was stepping up and avoiding the sack. Also scrambled for a few yards. He's only going to get better.

 

[ScWildcat3]

Im not trying to do anything. Minchey is playing well but if we are going to have a truly special season he needs to get better on his post snap read and recognition. He is leaving some explosives that we really need to take this team to the next level.

You do know just because he misses someone doesn’t mean that was his first, second or even third read. He has played extremely good especially for someone who hasn’t played in 3 years and has limited weapons. He’s only going to improve.

 

[bigblueinsanity (the real)]

Yeah man, wasn’t a slam directed towardyou at all. I think the game’s slowing down for him and the bama game helped. Sloan’s still not helping him on third by getting behind the chains and putting him in a bad position as we’re constantly getting blitzed, that’s tough on a first year starter trying make those quick reads imo.

Agree. I actually think stein got more involved in the offense after that bama game. Sloan did nothing to help deal with the insane pressure bama eventually started bringing.

I knew after that game, we'd really see lots of pressure to see if we figured it out. Since that game, we're MUCH better vs pressure. That's why I think Stein got involved.

 

[sefus12]

Agree that hes been effective because he is elite in operation and is accurately distributing most of the schemed completions.

To really take this team to the next level, we need better decisions in coverage. Too often he's not seeing open guys.

Let's take for example the last play of regulation. In that layered concept, the deeper guy was open and could get out. Instead he got darby killed (because the deeper defender cheated up) inbounds which ran out the clock.

Our margin for error is just so small we need him to improve if we're going to push upwards of 8 wins.

I’ll give you credit. You’re trying hard to convince people that Minchey has been a problem. Yes, he’s not perfect, but he’s been nothing short of great so far. Expecting him to give us more than he’s done so far is pretty unfair to the kid. And the best part is that he has room to improve on top of what he’s already done. Just a weird thread to start.

 

[sefus12]

Needs to be able to hurt teams with his running to be next level.

Minchey isn’t a running QB. Why do we want him to do more running if he doesn’t have to?

 

[Cobb4uk]

Like I always say, Kentucky has some
Of the dumbest football fans in the world. I’m sure OP knows plenty about basketball. But he’s out of his depth.

Bingo. I watched the game at s Sports Bar and listening to some of the UK fans I wondered ehat game they wete watching. They d

 

[Ednunn]

I wanna say HATS off to Lance Heard for the 2 pancake blocks on one play

Lance my hero

 

[bigblueinsanity (the real)]

You do know just because he misses someone doesn’t mean that was his first, second or even third read. He has played extremely good especially for someone who hasn’t played in 3 years and has limited weapons. He’s only going to improve.

When we run those high/low flood concepts vs zone, he literally has one defender in conflict and just has to read that one guy.

Way too often he throws short even when that conflict defender is playing up. That read is clear and easy and the ball needs to go to the next level but instead he throws short.

Little things? Absolutely. Do they add up? Yes especially with a small margin if error.

So he isnt playing bad and I never said he was. He just needs to elevate to nail those explosive play opportunities and I know he can.

 

[davtay]

Needs to be able to hurt teams with his running to be next level.

Yeah, just think how good Peyton Manning would have been if he had run more.

 

[bigblueinsanity (the real)]

I’ll give you credit. You’re trying hard to convince people that Minchey has been a problem. Yes, he’s not perfect, but he’s been nothing short of great so far. Expecting him to give us more than he’s done so far is pretty unfair to the kid. And the best part is that he has room to improve on top of what he’s already done. Just a weird thread to start.

I didn't say he's a problem. I said he needs to improve if we're going to have a special season.

 

[*Fox2Monk*]

Getting better every game, starting to show that he can feel the pressure and scramble which really helps our game. Made a couple of big plays with his feet last night, we didn’t see that in our first four games and adds another dimension to our offense. Smart kid, protects the ball and doesn’t force it. He throws a nice ball and is accurate, first time I’ve felt confident about stretching the field in a long time. He can get better, everyone can, but if you told me before the season he’d have 1170 yards, 11/1 TD/int ratio, and a 68% completion rate in his first five games I would have been ecstatic.

Plus the teams he has played it doesn’t get much harder schedule wise than what he’s faced. Bama’s back end specifically. He’s faced the kind of pressure that crushes a lot of mediocre QB’s and he’s put up those numbers. I’m super pumped going forward with the team and him as our QB. I hope we get to keep him for next year as well. That’s when QB’s get really really good usually.

 

[*Fox2Monk*]

Agree. Saw improvement there this last game. Finally stopped escaping laterally (causing sacks and holds) and finally started stepping up and got a few crucial firsts with his legs.

Overall I'm very pleased given how green he is. He was really only rattled once and that was vs bama who we now know are a truly elite d. He's just missing some opportunities that will eventually get us because of the insane level of competition.

We as fans need to remember he’s learning this against a stacked schedule. It’s his first game action in college as well. The fact that he’s this good already shows that he’s legit and will continue to get better.

 

[DonAndy]

We as fans need to remember he’s learning this against a stacked schedule. It’s his first game action in college as well. The fact that he’s this good already shows that he’s legit and will continue to get better.

Well if he don't win the Heisman I think we need to get rid of his sorry ahh......thats about what I can see this fan base saying. Stuff is ridiculous.

 

[CUJO_1970]

All I know is those two passes in OT against South Carolina were two of the best plays I've ever seen by a UK quarterback.

And the kid does seem to have ice water running in his veins.

 

[catagious]

Plus the teams he has played it doesn’t get much harder schedule wise than what he’s faced. Bama’s back end specifically. He’s faced the kind of pressure that crushes a lot of mediocre QB’s and he’s put up those numbers. I’m super pumped going forward with the team and him as our QB. I hope we get to keep him for next year as well. That’s when QB’s get really really good usually.

It feels strange not playing Georgia. I had to look to reassure myself that they weren’t in the schedule.

 

[*Fox2Monk*]

It feels strange not playing Georgia. I had to look to reassure myself that they weren’t in the schedule.

Thankfully, that’s all we needed to have the number 1 hardest schedule.

 

[Jtf2217]

Man no pleasing some of y'all.
Here's a stat line for you.
In 11 games as a sophomore after having 7 games of experience as a FR 146-253 for 57% completion 6TD 6Int. 1644 yards.
That QB is andre Woodson BTW.


Now compare that to Kennys 5 games.
97-142 for 68% completion%. 11 TD 1 INT 1148 yds
After throwing a whole 23 passes before starting. Kenny should be on pace for a 2500-2800 yard season at least with 20 something TD passes.

Will Levis and SJ are the only two QBs that I would consider capable since Mike Hartline
Will levis stats for his first year will probably be around what Kennys end up being 24 ish TD passes but Will also threw 13 picks.
SJ is one of my favorite QBs to ever come through here and his stats were like
2200 yards on like 10 TD passes and 6 picks in his best year.

I think Kenny is doing great for a first starting job. I have seen a decent amount of development out of him since game 1 and I'm no football coach. Some of yall just find things to wine about.