Is Kraft quite possibly the worst AD in Major CFB history?

JoePaMajorCFBrecord409Ws

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Lol when there's a playoff falling short is a failure. CFP sponsored games might be the biggest reach I've seen yet to defend James

So let me get this straight toolboy - in all those years, PSU was the 2nd or 3rd best team in the b1g by ranking and record. But we have clearly upgraded by firing Franklin and hiring a coach (paying him more $$$) who has spent more on this roster than Franklin to put a team on the field that is abjectly non-competitive and quite possibly the absolute worst team in the Conference. This is clearly what Krafty the Clown promised in regards to "excellence" and "Championship Football". LMAO. You're such a tool twit-boy.
 
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So let me get this straight toolboy - in all those years, PSU was the 2nd or 3rd best team in the b1g by ranking and record. But we have clearly upgraded by firing Franklin and hiring a coach (paying him more $$$) who has spent more on this roster than Franklin to put a team on the field that is abjectly non-competitive and quite possibly the absolute worst team in the Conference. This is clearly what Krafty the Clown promised in regards to "excellence" and "Championship Football". LMAO. You're such a tool twit-boy.
Wait--you just claimed that MC spent more on this team than Franklin--literally the dumbest thing anyone has ever said--well done
Being 2nd is the first loser and we were rarely second.
 

lions1995

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PSU is going to have to bring in another 20-40 portal guys next year, and will have to pay up to keep guys like Howard, Zayas, Dixson, etc. With no championship aspirations on the horizon, they'll have to pay above market to get better players to come. Kraft promised elite-level resources, and we're about middle of the pack in the Big Ten on par with Wisconsin and Nebraska.

Kraft survived the coaching search debacle and the leaked audio tape. Right now, his only value to the program is what he can bring in monetarily. I don't know what Kraft's relationships are like with higher-level donors, but PSU will likely need $40M+ to keep up with "inflation" and pursue higher-level transfer targets. If Kraft doesn't have that type of commitment for next year, it's time to get rid of him and bring in an assistant AD from a major program to take over.
Disagree. Look at Indiana and some other teams out there. You can turn a team around in one season with a good transfer class.
 
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So let me get this straight toolboy - in all those years, PSU was the 2nd or 3rd best team in the b1g by ranking and record. But we have clearly upgraded by firing Franklin and hiring a coach (paying him more $$$) who has spent more on this roster than Franklin to put a team on the field that is abjectly non-competitive and quite possibly the absolute worst team in the Conference. This is clearly what Krafty the Clown promised in regards to "excellence" and "Championship Football". LMAO. You're such a tool twit-boy.
Krafty the Clown made a decision on emotions, which was wrong. He was pissed that when James asked for an extension early in the year and Kraft said let's wait and play the season out. James went over his head to the top. The top said Pat is the AD.
Pat did not forget that and jumped after two terrible losses and made a decision on pure emotion because he was pissed James went over his head earlier.
 

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Krafty the Clown made a decision on emotions, which was wrong. He was pissed that when James asked for an extension early in the year and Kraft said let's wait and play the season out. James went over his head to the top. The top said Pat is the AD.
Pat did not forget that and jumped after two terrible losses and made a decision on pure emotion because he was pissed James went over his head earlier.

So, he made an awful decision for PSU for personal reasons rather than what was best for PSU? Yea, that sounds real professional..... NOT.
 
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Indiana is at $33.2 million, PSU is at $26.7 million.

Money, just like in the Pros, has to be spent on the right players.

Weird, I was just told Campbell and PSU weren't paying big $$$ for this completely uncompetitive crap-show?

BTW, this nonsense about absolute amount of $$$ spent translating automatically to wins is nonsense. Tons of names at top of list that aren't buying their way into the playoffs - aTm, USC, scUM, Oklahoma...... etc....

It's about talent evaluation - PSU's roster budget is plenty big enough to be competitive (which Franklin always was - all games were extremely close even against the very best teams in the country) - this team is among the worst in the Conference and bottom quartile of FBS - completely uncompetitive and just embarrassing despite tons of money being spent on Campbell's Free Agents. Just embarrassing, and irresponsible, that Krafty The Clown still has a job.
 
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Stop believing made up figures regarding NIL. Not sure why people refuse to accept this data isn't being shared. They're estimating what they think people are being paid. MC can spend just as much as Franklin if not more but you don't overpay guys just to spend.
 

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Indiana is at $33.2 million, PSU is at $26.7 million.

Money, just like in the Pros, has to be spent on the right players.

Don't worry, Loado is on the job trying to convince everyone that Campbell is barely paying these guys anything when the reality is that Campbell's Free Agents are being paid market rate and this roster overall is being paid every bit as much, if not more, than any Franklin roster.
 

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Stop believing made up figures regarding NIL. Not sure why people refuse to accept this data isn't being shared. They're estimating what they think people are being paid. MC can spend just as much as Franklin if not more but you don't overpay guys just to spend.

No dipstick, you overpay due to a bad evaluation of talent - a fatal coaching flaw in today's era of Professional Football wearing University's names on your jerseys. You are such a twit, it's beyond laughable.
 

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I feel the biggest mistake Kraft made was firing Franklin mid season. Did Kraft fire him because Franklin went behind his back for a raise? Maybe. Maybe Kraft took advantage of Franklin's bad start, last season, to pay him back for a perceived miss deed. Kraft should have atleast let the season play out, before firing him. After 10 mostly seasons, he deserved that. By firing Franklin, after only 6 games, it made Kraft the bad guy. Appears to me no one wanted to work for Kraft after that firing debackle. Prediction time...Kraft will fire Campbell after three seasons because of performance issues and falling ticket sales. Kraft will not be able to find any decent coach who wants to work for him. At that point Kraft himself will be fire and this whole mess will be reset.
 

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I feel the biggest mistake Kraft made was firing Franklin mid season. Did Kraft fire him because Franklin went behind his back for a raise? Maybe. Maybe Kraft took advantage of Franklin's bad start, last season, to pay him back for a perceived miss deed. Kraft should have atleast let the season play out, before firing him. After 10 mostly seasons, he deserved that. By firing Franklin, after only 6 games, it made Kraft the bad guy. Appears to me no one wanted to work for Kraft after that firing debackle. Prediction time...Kraft will fire Campbell after three seasons because of performance issues and falling ticket sales. Kraft will not be able to find any decent coach who wants to work for him. At that point Kraft himself will be fire and this whole mess will be reset.
Kraft is an idiot, and the fact that he made it to the spring shows how poorly PSU is run
 

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I feel the biggest mistake Kraft made was firing Franklin mid season. Did Kraft fire him because Franklin went behind his back for a raise? Maybe. Maybe Kraft took advantage of Franklin's bad start, last season, to pay him back for a perceived miss deed. Kraft should have atleast let the season play out, before firing him. After 10 mostly seasons, he deserved that. By firing Franklin, after only 6 games, it made Kraft the bad guy. Appears to me no one wanted to work for Kraft after that firing debackle. Prediction time...Kraft will fire Campbell after three seasons because of performance issues and falling ticket sales. Kraft will not be able to find any decent coach who wants to work for him. At that point Kraft himself will be fire and this whole mess will be reset.

You don't fire Campbell - you fire the empty-suit, hack creator of this entire crap-show who doesn't deserve minimum wage, let alone the multi-millions he is pulling down....... you fire Kraft (should have been fired the morning after the Wisconsin debacle @Home.... how he still has a job is quite beyond me). You let the new AD deal with Campbell - I doubt they would fire him immediately, but would certainly probably put him on a short lease and communicate expectations.
 

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I feel the biggest mistake Kraft made was firing Franklin mid season. Did Kraft fire him because Franklin went behind his back for a raise? Maybe. Maybe Kraft took advantage of Franklin's bad start, last season, to pay him back for a perceived miss deed. Kraft should have atleast let the season play out, before firing him. After 10 mostly seasons, he deserved that. By firing Franklin, after only 6 games, it made Kraft the bad guy. Appears to me no one wanted to work for Kraft after that firing debackle. Prediction time...Kraft will fire Campbell after three seasons because of performance issues and falling ticket sales. Kraft will not be able to find any decent coach who wants to work for him. At that point Kraft himself will be fire and this whole mess will be reset.
Firing a coach midseason is pretty standard at this point
Why would he want to stay knowing he's gone? Why would you want to keep him knowing he's gone?
Him being fired at midseason had zero impact on the coaching search other than the fact Kraft royally screwed it up so badly that it looks worse considering he gave himself extra time not to screw it up
Kraft won't be here in 3 years but Campbell should be fired after year 3 if he doesn't win big
 

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Kraft is an idiot, and the fact that he made it to the spring shows how poorly PSU is run

How can you say that, he's going to show us how you achieve "Excellence" and "Championship Football" here at PSU, don't you know? The sooner this lame-@** Indiana-grad, arrogant dip$**** is gone, the better. I don't need this empty-suit, wildly over-paid clown telling me he's going to bring great football to PSU when he's decimated one of the valuable and historic franchises in College Football. Just another gift from the traditional b1g - the gift that just keeps giving to PSU [insert eyeroll].
 
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I’m just glad Kraft is discounting tickets 50% since “we all knew 2026 and 2027 will be down years.” Oh, wait…
 

Marshall2323

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Letting the search drag out past the first signing period and portal is total incompetence. Further the guy that got rid of Franklin didn’t have the balls or football instincts to take a chance on a guy like Chesney who seems to be testing it up at UCLA. I like Matt Campbell but he is in a tough spot right now.
The failure by Kraft to lead a successful regime change is puzzling. He had nothing but tremendous success in building football programs at his previous stops at Temple and Boston College.
 
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If Pat Kraft thinks times are bad now, he has no idea. This is going to need a long term fix and unless you have Indiana type money (Mark Cuban), good luck.
He isn't going to make the end of next football season because the pressure on PSU admin to make a change will be too great. Empty seats and donor pressure will win out at the end of the day. He overplayed his hand. PSU writer Ben Jones said it best, "there is a reason they are Iowa State players." When PSU WAS PSU, Carson Hansen would have been the MVP of the Blue White game and ended up the 4th string running back behind 3 studs
The sooner you get Pat Kraft's ego and big mouth out of the way, the better. Campbell is in it up to his neck right now and he needs to be trusted to make the moves necessary. He's been through the wars and doesn't need Kraft's "help."
 

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Kraft should be fired yesterday, but that won't make much difference at this point. Where is the money going to come from?

Under present circumstances, The Bear couldn't win here.
 
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